The 9/11 Conspiracy Facts

you completely miss the point. Power downs of that scope DO NOT HAPPEN.
http://911review.com/errors/wtc/forbes.html

he is lying that he was informed of a planned power down. in six years no other person conforms there was a power down or even a notice of one. Out of twenty thousand people who worked at WTC no other person comes forward. Are you implying all those twenty thousand were "nudged"
Sorry your bull(rule 8) wont fly here.
1. Well you see, this is why it is a notable event. If things like that happened all the time, it wouldnt be a noteworthy event, would it!?

2. This is what is being debated. You may wanna track back and see how your point has been dealt with, many times.
 
Well you see, this is why it is a notable event. If things like that happened all the time, it wouldnt be a noteworthy event, would it!?

Interesting that such a "noteworthy" event is only mentioned by one person, even though said event would have affected thousands of people. And claims of said "noteworthy" event have not been corroborated by any evidence or any other person.
 
Wrong. So far, only 1 person has been shown to believe this. You. Please provide evidence of the so-called "millions."

? Right, well, err, the people in the Truth Movement? Or are you saying that the TM thinks he is a liar?

Good thing or you'd be sacked for your statements about 9/11.

phew!

No, most people, even most truthers, require some type of evidence. We require real evidence. You have yet to provide any. Show me one site that list FT as a co-conspirator.

what the hell does a "site" have to do with anything? are you too simple to understand that if he says that FT had a part in the power down, and they evidently havent come public about this, and they are hassling him to keep quiet, that he is therefore implicating them? Tell me honestky, are you that simple?

Remember, the "Truth Movement" believes that both towers were completely powered down for 36 hours. So, FT doesn't figure into any part of the conspiracy, even from the "Truth Movement" pov. So far, you're FT cover-up and link to the conspiracy has been shown to be a fantasy. Which makes you the fantasist.

Other than the fact that the power down was done on their offices! F***ing Hell!!!
 
thats because that is normal reaction to people who provide theories without proof is everything else points to the claims being false, everything points to him being a liar

Other than the main one, which is his continued employment by them, which you refuse to confront honestly

1. he wouldnt take the case to court, he would inform the police, they would investigate his claims, if there was evidence then it would be taken to court by the prosecution, he would only be a bit part player, if there was no evidence then he loses his job at worst,. it would be pretty unrealistic to think he would be the only one to stand by these claims to the police if they were true, others would follow surely?

Good thinking Baldrick. And he takes his claims about 911 to the authorities who were so good in their investigation into 911 already, that would be a great idea! And moreover, the case would be brouhgt against him, not vice versa

2. sorry, but in most cases the majority would do something about their dead colleagues, you obviously have not answered whether you would or not, why is this?

I would, but this is completely irrelevant.

you have zero proof that there has ever been a denial by FT or even an official account of this story, this answers some of your later statments

There is no denial to be found anyway, by the millions of people looking into this on either side. So we can say that there is no known rebuttal, which is my point

i ask you a question about these deaths and you handwave it with a "ok"

i dont even remember that, but you would almost certainly have misunderstood

are you calling me a facist? or intimating it? if so you are very far from the truth

no, just that your comments smack of it, which again is something very differnt

read the links already supplied to his claims, they have changed?

Substantially, no

show us where he has ever implied that FT were involved in the cover up, if not this again answers some of your later statements

Lol, the power down happened to them. They have not come out and refuted any allegations that have been made against them which imply that they were thus party to anything nefarious happening that weekend. Millions of peple are aware of this, but tFT choose not to comment, and try to hush up Forbes

it has been pointed out by others about your contradictory claims
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such as?

you added in the claims about his real name, deflection tactic

oh please, how the hell is this deflection it was used to show a point

i like the claims in the other posts about the 10's of millions who know about the claims, every truther i know makes grandoise claims about the millions that are on the good guys side, yet how many do they get at ground zero on the anniversary?

a lot from what I have seen

if you look at members numbers for all the sites involved in the truth or debunking movements, how many members does each have? millions? think again

What? what do the surveys tell you? Is this hard to understand?

how many attend the uk meetings out of interest?

There are 70-100 who come, which isnt bad for minimal publicity
 
So he would be fired for which of the following:

1) Implicating FT
2) Implicating FT AND lying
3) Lying

You're claiming that he HAS implicated them, and you're also reporting that he has not been fired. This disproves your claim below:




Also please address the following question:
1. 2)

2. He would be fired

Waste of time to say it, but dont make me say this again please
 
Interesting that such a "noteworthy" event is only mentioned by one person, even though said event would have affected thousands of people. And claims of said "noteworthy" event have not been corroborated by any evidence or any other person.
Please dont try and start this all over again, answer my points as I have yours, and we will make progress.

If you are honest that is
 
1. 2) [implicate and lie]

Above you say to be fired, he must implicate AND lie, but below you say he must only implicate. Do you wish to modify your claim quoted below?

If an employee of such a company were to come out and imply that the gov were behind 911, they would be out on their ass

Please dont try and start this all over again, answer my points as I have yours, and we will make progress.
If you are honest that is

You have failed 2x to respond to the question below:

How can we tell the difference between
a
) Scotts statements being incorrect, and
b
) a cover up taking place?
How would they look different?
 
You asked what evidence there was for a cover up. I stated that along with the evident fact of Scott's statement, which is now known around the world, there has not been one public action/comment on it, affirmative denial or other by FT, which is astonishing. That is evidence for a cover up, as you will know if you can distinguish between evidence and proof.
Darn, I missed this one. Again, I say that the "Truth Movement" is not anywhere close to as important as you make it out to be. As I stated in my last post, Scott's statements on a few web sites and one public interview that was not a headliner would not make FT respond. So it's not astonishing that FT has made no statement whatsoever. This shows how insignificant Scott's statement and the "Truth Movement" really is. Now if Scott's statements were headline news and was broadcast on any major news station, then FT would have to respond. So, in reality, only one person believes in the FT cover up, and that's you.
 
? Right, well, err, the people in the Truth Movement? Or are you saying that the TM thinks he is a liar?
No, but the TM doesn't believe in the significance of it or they would not have turned the story from a few floors in one tower to both towers being powered down.
what the hell does a "site" have to do with anything? are you too simple to understand that if he says that FT had a part in the power down, and they evidently havent come public about this, and they are hassling him to keep quiet, that he is therefore implicating them? Tell me honestky, are you that simple?
No, but you obviously are too simple to understand the difference between taking part in the power down and preparing for the power down that was ordered by somebody else. Since when do companies broadcast what maintenance is done in their offices? The PA ordered the power down and FT prepared for the power down. That is the only thing that he has stated. Understand that and you will see how ridiculous your cover up theory is. Since he has spoke at 2 9/11 conferences, it sure looks like the harassment isn't that severe if it exists at all. So where is the proof of the harassment? Correct me if I'm wrong, but does the UK have laws against harassment?
Other than the fact that the power down was done on their offices! F***ing Hell!!!
The power down - FT cover up is the fantasy that only you believe in. You have yet to provide any evidence to show that the TM, or even Scott believes this as well.
 
Other than the main one, which is his continued employment by them, which you refuse to confront honestly

Good thinking Baldrick. And he takes his claims about 911 to the authorities who were so good in their investigation into 911 already, that would be a great idea! And moreover, the case would be brouhgt against him, not vice versa

I would, but this is completely irrelevant.

There is no denial to be found anyway, by the millions of people looking into this on either side. So we can say that there is no known rebuttal, which is my point

i dont even remember that, but you would almost certainly have misunderstood

no, just that your comments smack of it, which again is something very differnt

Substantially, no

Lol, the power down happened to them. They have not come out and refuted any allegations that have been made against them which imply that they were thus party to anything nefarious happening that weekend. Millions of peple are aware of this, but tFT choose not to comment, and try to hush up Forbes
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such as?

oh please, how the hell is this deflection it was used to show a point

a lot from what I have seen

What? what do the surveys tell you? Is this hard to understand?

There are 70-100 who come, which isnt bad for minimal publicity

maybe they do not know about his claims, it is only your word for it that they do, how honest is that? should i email them and ask them if they are aware of his claims, not his apparent implications that you read into his statements but his initial claims? if i do and they are aware of them then he has nothing to fear?

snideness and rudeness again, the fact that he is in the uk would mean that he would be going to the uk authorities not the us ones, not the people who had already investigated it, and a lawsuit against them if they sacked him would not happen because it would be a uk industrial tribunal, you know very well this is different than the us system, how could they bring a case against him if he is telling the truth, he just needs to tell the police he has proof that FT are covering something up

as irrelevant as his real name remark you made, you are a coward for not answering about your actions if it was you

there is no denial by FT but you have said there was?

so from my comments you are inferring i am facist or have facist beliefs? back this up? do you know the leanings of the political parties in the UK? try and guess which one i vote for?

waffle, they have changed and you said they had not, the amount of time, the fact that he does not know for certain that it was all floors after claiming he did, these are changes whether you like it or not

has his story changed, yes it has, he has made conflicting statements regarding this weekend, some of which we now know are false

no, the power down apparently happened to all floors from the 50th up, this did not only affect FT, so they quite conceviably not be the only ones implicated? were they the only business on these floors?

he has never at any point implicated FT, if you continue to say he has show it or stop claiming it, see previous posts regarding proof

if you want to read between the lines like you seem to like to do you would see that it seems more like he is implicating the PA

a point that was irrelevant to what we were discussing, it adds nothing or detracts zero from his story

a lot, is that hundreds or thousands or millions?

surveys? millions of people worldwide believe bush and his administration carried out these murders to go to war in afghanistan do they?

more than believe it was 19 hijackers?

70 to 100 out of a population of what? are you saying internet is little or poor advertising for these meetings?
 
I can give you mjd's extremely predictable answer. It will be because FT isn't shouting from the rooftops that there was or wasn't a power down. Mjd seems to think that the "Truth Movement" carries a lot more weight than it really does. He seems to think that Scott's statements on a few websites and a single public interview means that FT must answer Scott's claims. Mjd will also say that FT's alleged intimidation of Scott is further proof. Yet there is no proof of said intimidation other than mjd's word, which we all know isn't exactly reliable. Mjd will also throw in a bunch of big words in an attempt to make himself look intelligent.

Much like the creationist, EVERYTHING and its opposite is proof of his theory.
 
are you too simple to understand that if he says that FT had a part in the power down, and they evidently havent come public about this, and they are hassling him to keep quiet, that he is therefore implicating them? Tell me honestky, are you that simple?

Please cite the part where he says that "FT had a part in the power down".

What do you mean by "had a part" ?
 
I must admit that I'm confused about what FT and Scott have anything to do with anything at all, ever.
 
I must admit that I'm confused about what FT and Scott have anything to do with anything at all, ever.

Me too. Let's assume, for argument's sake, that WTC 1 & 2 were "powered down" for the entire week before 9/11. So what? How is PROOF of a controlled demolition or anything suspicious?

We're New Yorkers, it's not another terrorist attack I'm worried about, it's another attack by Con Edison.
 
Because FT powered down the building, so the demo team could wire the whole thing for destruction in 36 hours... and Scott was the ONLY one who got the memo concerning said power down. Scott, it would appear, is the TRUE secret behind the 9-11 CT. What he knows goes far beyond The Great Owl, the Illuminati, and Barry Bonds.
 
For arguments sake, let's pretend that Scott is telling the truth or not mistaken and 40+ floors were powered down for 26 hours. What happened in the building during those 26 hours, if not cabling? MJD, what do you think happened in those 26 hours?
 

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