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They can synthesize gold. It just cost about 1000 times more than it does to mine it.
Dr. Ron Paul - The People Choice?
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If Ron Paul wins the nomination I'm moving to Planet X.
Ron Paul has become the perennial candidate, which is synonymous with loser. Except of course, the perennial candidate's ideas may well show up in the winning candidate's platform. Anyway, most of Paul's support seems to come from people who envision themselves as sturdy, self-sufficient pioneer types or from single-issue voters who have an ax to grind with some federal agency. They are in most respects as dependent on government services as anyone but choose to overlook it.
And didn't our profusion of government-run services evolve out of the needs of our expanding society for unity and direction in our increasingly sophisticated infrastructure. I mean, aside from some mountain men, who of us wants to see no surcease from having to dig his own wells, cut his own firewood, gouge out his own roads, round up and shoot them rustlers, ride his horse wherever to communicate with a doctor or perhaps anybody? How well would all this work in the midst of a city, anyway?
That's why we've established public agencies providing uniform utilitarian services, we hope under the supervision of specialists who can do it a lot better than we can. And this, we also hope, will free us to use our heads for less mundane, more innovative things, which is where the unique strength of human beings lies.
And didn't our profusion of government-run services evolve out of the needs of our expanding society for unity and direction in our increasingly sophisticated infrastructure. I mean, aside from some mountain men, who of us wants to see no surcease from having to dig his own wells, cut his own firewood, gouge out his own roads, round up and shoot them rustlers, ride his horse wherever to communicate with a doctor or perhaps anybody? How well would all this work in the midst of a city, anyway?
That's why we've established public agencies providing uniform utilitarian services, we hope under the supervision of specialists who can do it a lot better than we can. And this, we also hope, will free us to use our heads for less mundane, more innovative things, which is where the unique strength of human beings lies.
Cleon
King of the Pod People
Why would you say something like that? I mean, you gotta know that when Paul finally bows out or gets his ass whooped in the polls, this thread's gonna be bumped and you are going to feel really stupid.
PixyMisa
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How do I feel? Well:
He's a crackpot, and his supporters are dismayingly sincere and don't blink often enough.
Basically he's a religious social-conservative isolationist mercantilist.* He might be sound on taxation and spending, but he's a nutcase when it comes to trade and economics. He'll say one thing that is vaguely reasonable, and follow it up with an insane conspiracy theory. (See what he says about NAFTA or the WTO, for example.)
He might actually be a good congressman, voting against bad bills for the wrong reasons. He'd be a catastrophe as a president. His platform is riddled with magical thinking, from abortion to finance to trade to foreign policy. Fortunately he has no support. The neocons can't stand him, of course; he's too conservative for the libertarians, and too weird for the religious right.
He's the Republican Dennis Kucinich, but even more on the fringe. His chance of securing the nomination is zero, and his chance of winning the presidency worse.
* Disclaimer: I'm an atheist social-liberal globalist capitalist. I had to build my own little blogging empire just to have a support group. Also I'm an Aussie, so all American politics looks weird to me.
If Ron Paul wins the normination, planet X will move to Earth.
Fine, when they start selling a home gold synthesizing kit for kids at Toys "R" Us.
Don't hold you breath waiting for that to happen. This is not expensive because the process hasn’t been perfected quite yet, it requires a god-awful lot of energy used under controlled circumstances. I'm not going to say it's never going to be a household process, because who knows what will happen in 1000, 10.000 or 1.000.000 years, but cheap gold being synthesized is not something that's going to happen in the foreseeable future.
With current techniques.
See he did much better in Missouri! He would have done even better if people had been willing to cast their votes along with what they believe in rather than allowing their fears to get them to vote against one candidate or another.
But being a bunch of hill billies what do we know. We like guns, abhor debt, and try to deal honestly with each other. Oh no wait that is a fantasy world.
It's not just a question of techniques, it's a question of the first law of thermodynamics. Turning lead into gold is comparable to reversing a nuclear (fission) explosion.
I don't know if I listed some of the reasons why I do support Dr. Paul
He's been tested ( I don't know about this perennial Candidate stuff he only ran once before when he didn't win the rest of his races he won. Even as libertarian which we all know isn't possible.)
He returns a portion of his congressional stipend every year!
He refuses to be part of the congressional retirement program ( I think we all know how juicy that is)
He wants to balance the budget (crazy talk I know)
He has never taken a congressional paid junket (in 20 years)
He won't accept Medicare/Medicaid but does the work on a charity basis instead.
He doesn't think that throwing more government money (our money) at a problem with solve the problem.
He would like to prevent the government from just printing more money when they run short. (I don't think the gold standard is the answer but...)
He votes against bills that are unconstitutional or contain pork. (Bad reasons according to some posters here)
He believes that Americans really can take care of themselves!
He is against spending billions of dollars per month on an undeclared war!
He believes that the war on drugs is a waste of our money.
He thinks that the government has no business spying on American citizens.
He thinks the second amendment was no joke.
He believes that basic government services are essential ie defense, trade, border control sewers, water, roads and such. (despite what some of the posters here would have you believe he doesn't want to do away with public utilities or sewers and the like.)
He believes in American control over our own corporations rather than the current view to let them run the world. (see NAFTA highway which is Gulianni's baby, see WTO, see various other Sovereignty destroying ideas)
He recently won the last straw poll in NH. (live free or die!)
He believes that the feds (especially the executive) have overstepped their bounds on many personal freedom issues and that some of their agencies do more harm than good. (See FEMA and Katrina. "Where is my house? My cousin got a house all I got was this lousy trailer")
I am skeptical on his environmental record, the gold standard thing, and wish that he understood the need for getting corpos out of health care.
Still all in all he has principals (see 9/10s of other candidates) and he has identified and offered solutions to many of the problems facing this country. Which is all more than any other candidate. Plus he speaks the same message no matter who is audience is. (See others for truthyness.)
Well I doubt anyone read this far as I doubt many of you have read up on Ron Paul (see well he is a Lib so...), and I doubt many of you have read the constitution lately.
I am glad for all the comments though good and bad. (although the completely off subject crap was annoying and ridiculous still its a forum so...)
Oh I almost forgot foreign policy he believes in trade but not in building an empire or interfering in other countries business. (see South America, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Cuba, this list goes on and on)
Peace I am off to planet X for lunch
He's been tested ( I don't know about this perennial Candidate stuff he only ran once before when he didn't win the rest of his races he won. Even as libertarian which we all know isn't possible.)
He returns a portion of his congressional stipend every year!
He refuses to be part of the congressional retirement program ( I think we all know how juicy that is)
He wants to balance the budget (crazy talk I know)
He has never taken a congressional paid junket (in 20 years)
He won't accept Medicare/Medicaid but does the work on a charity basis instead.
He doesn't think that throwing more government money (our money) at a problem with solve the problem.
He would like to prevent the government from just printing more money when they run short. (I don't think the gold standard is the answer but...)
He votes against bills that are unconstitutional or contain pork. (Bad reasons according to some posters here)
He believes that Americans really can take care of themselves!
He is against spending billions of dollars per month on an undeclared war!
He believes that the war on drugs is a waste of our money.
He thinks that the government has no business spying on American citizens.
He thinks the second amendment was no joke.
He believes that basic government services are essential ie defense, trade, border control sewers, water, roads and such. (despite what some of the posters here would have you believe he doesn't want to do away with public utilities or sewers and the like.)
He believes in American control over our own corporations rather than the current view to let them run the world. (see NAFTA highway which is Gulianni's baby, see WTO, see various other Sovereignty destroying ideas)
He recently won the last straw poll in NH. (live free or die!)
He believes that the feds (especially the executive) have overstepped their bounds on many personal freedom issues and that some of their agencies do more harm than good. (See FEMA and Katrina. "Where is my house? My cousin got a house all I got was this lousy trailer")
I am skeptical on his environmental record, the gold standard thing, and wish that he understood the need for getting corpos out of health care.
Still all in all he has principals (see 9/10s of other candidates) and he has identified and offered solutions to many of the problems facing this country. Which is all more than any other candidate. Plus he speaks the same message no matter who is audience is. (See others for truthyness.)
Well I doubt anyone read this far as I doubt many of you have read up on Ron Paul (see well he is a Lib so...), and I doubt many of you have read the constitution lately.
I am glad for all the comments though good and bad. (although the completely off subject crap was annoying and ridiculous still its a forum so...)
Oh I almost forgot foreign policy he believes in trade but not in building an empire or interfering in other countries business. (see South America, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan, Cuba, this list goes on and on)
Peace I am off to planet X for lunch
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Yes I think it has been tried for what 5 thousand years now probably gonna happen any day now like the perpetual motion machine and the cars that run on water. It would be nice though I'd like to synthesize all kinds of elements! Like Oxygen.
I'm ever so sorry, how about I get to work on affordable gold synthesis when I’ve finished my warp-drive for intergalactic travel?
Let's not drift into fantasy land. Faster than light travel and wormholes are both an absolute impossibility.
You know, sort of like Paul winning.
Wormholes are believed to be real, there's just this tiny little problem with making them stable or having them transport something bigger than subatomic particles.
"Believed."
I don't believe that there are any shortcuts in space, or that space bends in any way that would make them possible.
Well, who's being unambitious now?