[Merged]architects and engineers for 9/11 truth = SCAM!

Totovader said:
You would think with all that "science" that ae911 supposedly has, they wouldn't need stupid tactics like vandalism...

http://imgred.com/http://rinf.com/alt-news/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/ae911truth.jpg

Er, wait- I forgot... they don't have the science, they simply rely on their name to make their argument for them.

"9/11 Truth Activists Strike Motorway Lorry"

("Alternative" news site which seems a bit too proud by the "guerrilla tactics")
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Oh for pete's sake... Why can't they splurge for adspace on a billboard like everybody else? They just have to be ****ing annoying ***holes and paint their damn URL on a trailer truck?
 
MIKILLINI said:
Traci Parris, F-16 Aircraft Product Support Engineering Coord.?

An interesting and intriguing one.
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Not really. The key words in the title are "support" and "coordinater". She sounds like a mid-level paper pusher, hardly an engineering job.


An intruiging one for me is:

John L. Bursill, Licensed Aircraft Maintenance Engineer Avionics
Sydney, NSW – Australia


Also not an engineer. Europeans and Aussies call aircraft mechanics "engineers" for some reason. :confused:
 
I have not had time to read all of the information on this site, but from what I have read, some people are questioning my experience, knowledge, and or present occupational position.

Instead of making fun of me and guessing, why did you not just go to my Herbal Pets web site, click on the "Contact" button, and send me an email?

I do not claim to be an engineer or architect. If you will notice, my name is under the "NON architect and engineer" section. I was a Jet Engine Mechanic in the US Air Force for over 11 years, I was an Aircraft Mechanic on business jets at Cessna Aircraft company for a year and a half, and I was an F-16 Assembly Supervisor for a year and a half.

I have worked around aircraft practically all of my adult life, and I think this entitles me to give my opinion as to the durability of aircraft and engines. The typical american has not worked with or around the same products that I have, nor do they realize how these products react due to stress.

I would not call myself an expert, but I feel that I should be given some degree of credibility due to my experience. I know that a lot of you do not respect one another on this web site, by the language you use towards one another, but I will not resort to insults or name calling. Just because I don't do that, it doesn't mean that I do not feel strongly about the subject discussion.

Also, the reason I registered at that web site is because I thought it served a good purpose. I did not suspect it to be a fraud or a hoax. If it is, then they fooled me. But I am a real person with real aircraft experience and opinions as a result of those experiences.

If you would like to ask about my present occupational position, email me. Right now I have to get ready for work.

Have a good day,
Traci
 
Welcome to the forums, Traci. I'd be interested in hearing what attracted you to the AE site, when you get the chance.
 
To be fair, while the remedy is 'herbal' my reading of Traci's site indicates that she does not sell any 'herbal cures', only specific mixtures to try and ensure the survival of infected dogs. This is close to but not quite woo although some of the other products look a little more dubious.
 
e^n said:
To be fair, while the remedy is 'herbal' my reading of Traci's site indicates that she does not sell any 'herbal cures', only specific mixtures to try and ensure the survival of infected dogs. This is close to but not quite woo although some of the other products look a little more dubious.
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What is Traci's site? I tried www.herbalpets.com but that's a penis enlargement woo site.
 
I had never heard of "woo" before. I thought you had a typo, but I looked it up for a minute and saw that it is some kind of herbal product. I don't make my products. I purchase them from the same company that I made my original purchase from. That company is Amber Technology.

Apparently I am not allowed to post url's since I just registered yesterday and haven't posted enough times, but you can google it if you like.

Take care,
Traci
 
Thanks, Gravy. I have been to so many 911 sites and watched so many videos in the last two months that I do not remember how I found that one, but when I did find it, I thought I would like to add my name to the list in hopes of proving that it's not just a bunch of crazy people who don't believe the official story (not that I can prove I am not crazy...my kids would probably tell you I am crazy). (laughing)

Traci
 
It is so bizarre that ae911truth is declared a scam site because JREFs decided to pretend to be engineers. That's like saying a bank is a money laundering operation because some idiot decides to rob it. Doesn't anyone here agree that it is cghildish and attention seeking?
 
TraciParris said:
I have not had time to read all of the information on this site, but from what I have read, some people are questioning my experience, knowledge, and or present occupational position.

Instead of making fun of me and guessing, why did you not just go to my Herbal Pets web site, click on the "Contact" button, and send me an email?

I do not claim to be an engineer or architect. If you will notice, my name is under the "NON architect and engineer" section. I was a Jet Engine Mechanic in the US Air Force for over 11 years, I was an Aircraft Mechanic on business jets at Cessna Aircraft company for a year and a half, and I was an F-16 Assembly Supervisor for a year and a half.

I have worked around aircraft practically all of my adult life, and I think this entitles me to give my opinion as to the durability of aircraft and engines. The typical american has not worked with or around the same products that I have, nor do they realize how these products react due to stress.

I would not call myself an expert, but I feel that I should be given some degree of credibility due to my experience. I know that a lot of you do not respect one another on this web site, by the language you use towards one another, but I will not resort to insults or name calling. Just because I don't do that, it doesn't mean that I do not feel strongly about the subject discussion.

Also, the reason I registered at that web site is because I thought it served a good purpose. I did not suspect it to be a fraud or a hoax. If it is, then they fooled me. But I am a real person with real aircraft experience and opinions as a result of those experiences.

If you would like to ask about my present occupational position, email me. Right now I have to get ready for work.

Have a good day,
Traci
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It does not take an engineer to figure out the entire 9/11 truth movement make up stuff about 9/11 is false. If you signed up at AE, you are challenged to find reality and you have been conned by idiots who ideas are incorrect on 9/11. Not one single fact to support conclusions yet, and I have checked hopping normal people had the brain power to overcome stupidity.

Many people believe rational people would not fall for the misinformation of 9/11, so I can not believe what appear to be idiots signing up at AE. I say idiots because the statements at AE are real easy to see as lies. I did not know there were so many irrational people who must not be able to think for themselves since the crazy ideas of 9/11 truth are so obvious. A&E failed to even come up with their own crazy ideas but have reused the same old lies about 9/11. Too lazy to do research on their own, already debunked, A&E.
 
Revolutionary91 said:
It is so bizarre that ae911truth is declared a scam site because JREFs decided to pretend to be engineers. That's like saying a bank is a money laundering operation because some idiot decides to rob it. Doesn't anyone here agree that it is cghildish and attention seeking?
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It is funny so few people are dumb enough to believe 9/11 truth ideas. It is sad any do.

As for engineers, it only takes a brain to expose the fraud of 9/11 truth, and the ability to use it. No engineers required. As an engineer, I do not understand the few people who fall for the lies of 9/11 truth. As a pilot since 1973, I can not understand how people can be conned and lead around like dopes in the 9/11 truth movement. There is a cure for the followers of the 9/11 truth movement and the terminal stupidity they display buying into lies of 9/11 truth, knowledge and education. Got some?
 
TraciParris said:
I had never heard of "woo" before. I thought you had a typo, but I looked it up for a minute and saw that it is some kind of herbal product. I don't make my products. I purchase them from the same company that I made my original purchase from. That company is Amber Technology.
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Traci, 'woo' refers more to pseudoscience or 'alternative medicine' (medicine not supported by science), selling herbal remedies as cures is one of the common features. Herbal remedies can have some positive biological effects from my understanding but in no cases do they ever cure disease.
 
Revolutionary91 said:
It is so bizarre that ae911truth is declared a scam site because JREFs decided to pretend to be engineers. That's like saying a bank is a money laundering operation because some idiot decides to rob it. Doesn't anyone here agree that it is cghildish and attention seeking?
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That analogy makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

A&E for truth is predicated upon their members being architects and engineers. That is the sole thing which seperates them from every other 'truther' site out there.

So when it is shown that not every person who signs up as being an architect or an engineer is one, then the site and it's motives can be called into question.

In just the same way that a site set up as being "Law Enforcement Officers for Truth" which then allowed any old tom, dick or harry to sign up as a law enforcement officer endorsing the aims of that site without checking to see if these people are who they say they are, would be accused (rightly) of just being interested in numbers, not truth.

If you're going to make a big play about someone having expertise or status endorsing the 911 fantasy, then you can't run away when their expertise or status is shown to be bogus.

The A&E people should have been much more careful about this, as well as their research.

That they continued to use Doug Plumb to vet the new signers, a man so steeped in woo it's a wonder he can function properly on a daily basis, shows that their standards have not improved.
 
Revolutionary91 said:
It is so bizarre that ae911truth is declared a scam site because JREFs decided to pretend to be engineers. That's like saying a bank is a money laundering operation because some idiot decides to rob it. Doesn't anyone here agree that it is cghildish and attention seeking?
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You seem to have this back to front.
ae911truth was already a scam, people registered there to expose the lack of verification of their list.
To expose such scammery was the whole point of the exercise.
 
When Markyx discovered this he could have simply emailed Mr Gage and told him. Instead, he started a thread here encouraging everyone to sign up under false names. Childish and attention seeking.
 
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