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Any hypothesis on pools of metal?

Revolutionary91 said:
Many kinds of samples were taken from ground zero, NASA flew over with infra red imaging equipment, the entire site was mapped using sophisticated sonar equipment. Amongst all of this, did nobody think to take a sample of this metal and test it?
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The pools were never tested to verify their content, the claims of steel are based purely on eyewitnesses, which are unreliable for obvious reasons.

NASA's imaging doesn't prove there was steel either, it just gives a map of the ground temps.

I don't see what your point is.
 
cmcaulif said:
The pools were never tested to verify their content, the claims of steel are based purely on eyewitnesses, which are unreliable for obvious reasons.

NASA's imaging doesn't prove there was steel either, it just gives a map of the ground temps.

I don't see what your point is.
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My point is that with all that sampling going on you would think that someone would test the metal.
 
Color is a function of temperature in metal. The scale is in any of a wide range of metal trades textbooks. I have a URL that document it for Aluminum but I am not yet able to post it yet.

Google for "janedoe0911 tripod aluminum glows" and click on "Aluminum Glows"

The author did a nice experiment showing Aluminum going through color changes. Unfortunatly it's on a free web host and the pictures don't load today.

Scroll down to see the color scale.

JaneDoe0911 seems to have communicated her demonstration to Prof Jones but he still repeats the
mistake about the meaning of color.
 
Revolutionary91 said:
My point is that with all that sampling going on you would think that someone would test the metal.
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unfortunately that did not happen, and with the body of evidence we have now, there is no reason to conclude that the pools were steel.

Gravy's website probably has the most links on the subject, if you're interested.
 
cmcaulif said:
unfortunately that did not happen, and with the body of evidence we have now, there is no reason to conclude that the pools were steel.

Gravy's website probably has the most links on the subject, if you're interested.
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Yes i'm reading through his links.

It is unfortunate that nobody tested it. Could have laid it to rest before it started.
 
BigAl said:
Color is a function of temperature in metal. The scale is in any of a wide range of metal trades textbooks. I have a URL that document it for Aluminum but I am not yet able to post it yet.

Google for "janedoe0911 tripod aluminum glows" and click on "Aluminum Glows"

The author did a nice experiment showing Aluminum going through color changes. Unfortunatly it's on a free web host and the pictures don't load today.

Scroll down to see the color scale.

JaneDoe0911 seems to have communicated her demonstration to Prof Jones but he still repeats the
mistake about the meaning of color.
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Janedoe0911 also believes that energy beams from space brought down the towers, and that the "fuzzy blobs" prove that steel was "dustified."
 
So far, every reference to "seeing" molten metal is second-hand when you chase it down to primary sources.

There is no technical measurement that shows temps hot enough to melt steel (2500F). Molten Aluminum is a possibility, but I'm a skeptic.

There was lots of deformed steel when the pile was pulled apart. Maybe people saw some warped steel and assumed it had been molten at some point. Look at the sloppy reporting for the fire in San Francisco that collapsed a bridge. Lots of people used the "molten" word to describe the bent beams.
 
Revolutionary91 said:
Janedoe0911 also believes that energy beams from space brought down the towers, and that the "fuzzy blobs" prove that steel was "dustified."
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And your point? Richard Hoagland believes in massive glass tunnels, buried citys, pyraimds and huge carved faces on Mars, as well as robots, machines, glass cities, and other alien structures on the Moon, that serveral of the moons of Jupiter and Saturn are either artifical or have alien structures on them, and that Washington DC was all laid out in accordance to masonic symbolism. He also does a very good page proving that those that believe that the Apollo programme was hoaxed are nutty than he is. Sometimes the insane can be right, just like a broken clock manages to be correct twice a day.
 
PhantomWolf said:
And your point? Richard Hoagland believes in massive glass tunnels, buried citys, pyraimds and huge carved faces on Mars, as well as robots, machines, glass cities, and other alien structures on the Moon, that serveral of the moons of Jupiter and Saturn are either artifical or have alien structures on them, and that Washington DC was all laid out in accordance to masonic symbolism. He also does a very good page[/url] proving that those that believe that the Apollo programme was hoaxed are nutty than he is. Sometimes the insane can be right, just like a broken clock manages to be correct twice a day.
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Sorry everyone, been reading a site that was given earlier. And it is VERY LONG.
=o)

Oh, but, there is some masonic symbolism in Washington. I will never deny that. One guy was telling me about the Pentagon with relation to some Satanic verse of some sort, that "The center of power should always be pointing north." Something to that effect. Something about a Pentagram.
And as you know a Pentagon is the center of a Pentagram, but I have not looked to see the direction the top point of the Pentagon is pointing.
Just for laughs or a quick study for those that want a smile.
=o)

Glass cities on the moon? Very cool. Maybe that is why we're not doing anymore manned missions to to the moon? Someone screwed up and hit a golf ball into someones glass city.
=o)~
 
Max Photon said:
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DA,

MAX-MIHOP explains the pools of molten metal:
(Sorry if the paper has some broken links - I'll get those cleaned up.)


Regards,

Max

(Great topic, by the way!)

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So far in reading the link you've provided, it seems as if the guy is trying to sell me a used car.
 
Revolutionary91 said:
Yes i'm reading through his links.

It is unfortunate that nobody tested it. Could have laid it to rest before it started.
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People on site were concerned with saving lives, recovering bodies, removing debris, and preventing furthers hazards. Preventing the overactive imagination of kooks was not on their mind.

In addition, any such testing would be ignored ion favor of some invented lies by CTers in any case. The initial reports of the molten steel came from a second hand account that makes no sense when you read it. The whole 'HUGE POOLS OF MOLTEN STEEL' became a running joke on USENET because the story was so laughable. My favorite part is when they 'dipped' out the molten steel with an excavator bucket....yeah..you do that...
 
I've looked at lots of "eye witnesses of molten steel and so far, when you get to the primary source you find it is secind-hand or somehow not really eye witness. In your fist URL, take "A NY firefighter described molten steel flowing at ground zero, and said it was like a "foundry" or like "lava" for example.

That is a very tightly edited from some other video that I have been unable to identify. It would be typical of the "truth movement" to have edited out the preceeding "I heard that..."

Does anyone know what video that clip is from?
 
Devil's Advocate said:
Oh, but, there is some masonic symbolism in Washington. I will never deny that. One guy was telling me about the Pentagon with relation to some Satanic verse of some sort, that "The center of power should always be pointing north." Something to that effect. Something about a Pentagram.
And as you know a Pentagon is the center of a Pentagram, but I have not looked to see the direction the top point of the Pentagon is pointing.
Just for laughs or a quick study for those that want a smile.
=o)
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Please tell me this was tongue in cheek, usually I wouldn't ask but... well with some of the posters we get here one just never knows...
 
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