Dogs can watch TV!!!

We seem to have multiple Standard Poodle responses, as well as multiple large mammal-positive responses.
I should point out that Kaylon loved soccer. He watched the ball with great intensity. The time he saw his uncle on TV and went mad (both paws on screen, tried to climb inside, barking feverently), the uncle was silent, it being a dog show. He didn't show the same reaction to other white standards on the screen.
I conclude from this that, while audio is important (it certainly drew his attention), it is not essential.
 
I should also posit that _movement_ is essential. This explains reaction to animated dogs, and why dogs don't care so much about still images. (Yes, I was bored once. Dog did not care about poster sized picture of dogs.)
 
I've got a black lab who starts chasing whatever animal is shown on the TV. Dogs especially, but also horses, cows, anything. At first, I assumed it was the sound, so I started muting whenever commercial breaks were due, and he still chased the dogs in commercials. One day he's going to go right through the screen...
 
I've got a black lab who starts chasing whatever animal is shown on the TV. Dogs especially, but also horses, cows, anything. At first, I assumed it was the sound, so I started muting whenever commercial breaks were due, and he still chased the dogs in commercials. One day he's going to go right through the screen...

You're safe as long as you have a CRT. Our old TV weight 200 lbs, easy. When we upgraded to LCD, which only weighs maybe 50 lbs, it greatly increased the chance that the dog would do serious damage.
 
Rabbits

My girlfriend and I have two house rabbits who have generously allowed us to share their warren with them.

The rabbits are rarely on our bed but when they do jump up, it's always just to check out the room from a higher vantage point, before they jump off an go about their usual rabbity business.

The only exception to this is when I put Farscape (cult sci-fi show) on. For some reason, one of the bunnies (Teaspoon) appears to love Farscape. If he's in the room and hears the theme tune he will immediately get up from whatever he's doing and jump onto the bed and lie at the foot of the bed near my feet and "watch" Farscape with us.

He hasn't yet demonstrated this type of behaviour for any other tv shows we watch on a regular basis (like P&T's [rule 8], The Simpsons, CSI, etc.) just Farscape.

I am at a loss as to what it is about Farscape that so catches his attention, but there's something about it he likes.

As a side note, if anyone knows anything about rabbit vision and how well they see, I'd be interested to read it. Both our bunnies seem to have fairly poor eyesight, but I can't be sure.
 
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I am at a loss as to what it is about Farscape that so catches his attention, but there's something about it he likes.

I would guess that a rabbit's hearing is much better than its eyesight. Your bunny probably has drawn a connection between the sound of Farscape (maybe the voice of one of the characters, as well as the theme song?) and something pleasurable.

(Why do we say "eye"sight? Is there some other kind of sight?)
 
I would guess that a rabbit's hearing is much better than its eyesight. Your bunny probably has drawn a connection between the sound of Farscape (maybe the voice of one of the characters, as well as the theme song?) and something pleasurable.

(Why do we say "eye"sight? Is there some other kind of sight?)

I tend to agree with you. As I mentioned earlier, our rabbits both seem to have fairly poor vision and having Teaspoon spend time on the bed with us is fun and not something he usually does, so the behaviour does tend to get him a lot of attention. If it were only because of the positive reinforcement, I would have expected him to do it for some other shows we watch as well, but it really does seem to be limited to Farscape quite specifically (so far).

I've decided I should perhaps try some more sci-fi shows and watch his reaction :) If he sits through a couple of episodes of Star Trek in their entirety, I may just approach Randi for the million...
"My bunny is Gene Roddenberry reincarnated and I can prove it!!!"
 
Reaction to sounds vary, but it usually has to be a strong or loud sound they would respond to in real life: loud barking, howling, a dog fight, meowing ... a doorbell, or a knock on the door.

My dogs must be dumb, they show no interest in the TV at all. The only reaction I ever see is if a doorbell sound comes from the TV; they jump up off the couch and rush for our front door and start barking.

LLH
 
Dog Abuse

I am astonished at the number of people here who provide TV sets in their dog's kennels. My dogs are real dogs and do not have TV in their kennels.
;)

We had a kennel of Field Trial retrievers (mostle Goldens, some Labs) that we competed and hunted with for 30-odd years. My wife trained & judged at some of the events, and these were serious working dogs. Field Trials for AKC hunting dogs are sort of a combination of a Decathlon for dogs, with a Mensa test added, and it takes a tough hombre to jump into the busted ice and swim a couple of hundred yards just to pick up some dead bird.

Anyhow, my wife always kept a radio going for them in the kennel, 24/7, and having tried it both ways was convinced that just the sound of a human voice, periodically, with music (noise they associate with humans) keeps them quieter overall, and arguably happier. Might be less true with some breeds, though, since Goldens are more human-oriented than many breeds.

We have left the TV on in the house whenever the dogs are alone, also, for the same reason. They don't seem to really notice, or care, whether it's Animal Planet or CNN,

I keep meaning to borrow a baby monitor from someone and try to see if they react the same to it as a human voice. I'm pretty sure they will, but I'm curious as to whether the artificiality of the sound, and probably the lack of a lot of harmonic overtones (and undertones?) will affect anything if we're out of the room (looking thru a window?) and set them up for criminality by leaving the dog food closet open, with all the treats within their reach.

I figure having my voice come out of nowhere, when I'm not around, yelling "I'll KILL you if you do that!!" might elevate me to some sort of god-hood in their eyes and they'd be less inclined to do evil in my absence.
 
["I am at a loss as to what it is about Farscape that so catches his attention, but there's something about it he likes. "]

Since it's the theme that seems to capture his attention, at least initially, there might be something in the particular pitch, or harmonics, of part of the theme that mimics some built-in rabbit "communication." I have some vague recollection that they seem to have vocalizations to indicate simple messages to other rabbits -- danger, all clear, food, etc. With a few hundred thousand bucks of research money and some determined work with good tape recorders, one might turn up some very interesting, largely useless, data.

Just the sort of thing the government does all the time anyhow ...:D
 
We used to have a cat that watched television when animals were on. Always remember him climbing all over the television, trying to find a way in so that he could catch the harvest mice he could see on the screen. Our current mog was interested in the TV as a kitten but has now lost interest. I wonder whether he has realised that what he sees on the screen is not real - he used to try to scare his reflection away when younger but now does not react to it.
 
We had a cat that LOVED to watch tennis and baseball...and would bat at the screen at the ball; not quiet the same but I always found that pretty cool.
 
My dogs must be dumb, they show no interest in the TV at all. The only reaction I ever see is if a doorbell sound comes from the TV; they jump up off the couch and rush for our front door and start barking.

LLH

The doorbell (or door-knocking) hysteria was funny when we only had four or five dogs inside, but now that we've tripled that, with a pair of 190-lb Great Danes, I am far less amused. The barking is so loud they can't even hear me screaming obscenities and threatening great bodily harm if they don't shut up.

On the other hand, I don't particularly worry about burglars. If 1,500 lb of dog won't stop them, it should at least slow them down while I reach for the .44 ...

I finally disconnected the doorbell, since they react anyhow when someone enters the driveway, just much more subdued.
 
I had two cats that showed no reaction whatsoever to non-3d objects. Computer screen, TV, mirrors, pictures.... not even a cursory glance. Not even if there were bird sounds on TV.

But then at pet stores and other places I see these "Video for your Cat" (or Dog) by the register. Supposedly they are tailored to what the animals want to see. Mine surely would have just ignored the tapes.

But are there people who have had Cats that actively watch TV? I had heard (but not read) that cat's eyes are primarily fuzzy at seeing fine details but superb at picking up moving object. Thus they could never read ... but also TV images would be at best indistinct. This the case?
 
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Speaking of evil, atheistic humanism/naturalism, this type of behavior is a perfect example of what creationists insist does not exist: A neutral mutation. I strongly suspect the reason that some dogs and cats react to TV, but most don't, is differences in neural wiring. Such differences could only come about through mutation, but...talk about a useless mutation! What possible survival advantage does the ability to watch television give an animal? And what crazy owner would say, "Hey, this dog watches TV, let's STUD him!"

There's probably all sorts of mutations like that, happening all the time, but no one notices because the right environment has to exist.

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This actually brings up another factor, making any analysis of dogs & TV even trickier. There would probably be a great difference in the reactions of a sighthound (Afghan, greyhound, Borzoi) compared to a scenthound (any hound). The working breeds have diverged so much that my guess is that, on the whole, you'd get much stronger reactions to TV, or any visual stimuli, from a Borzoi than a bloodhound. With Borzois, it's all eyes, but bloodhounds probably don't even believe something is real unless it smells real. Or at least SMELLS.

These "instincts" tend to drop off quickly even within breeds unless you specifically breed for them, however, so among mostly show-dog lines the differences would be less than among actual working dogs.

I'd suspect cats would be more universal in their response, but my pseudoscientific guess is that for meaningful comparison of dogs you'd have to get groups of working retrievers, then groups of working (tracking) bloodhounds or coonhounds, etc., being careful not to mix in foo-foo show dogs to cloud the issue. Or just use show retrievers, show hounds, etc. The scary part is that individual dog personalities vary so much that I suspect it'd skew results badly. In every litter of working retrievers, there are a couple of snoring fireplace dogs, some middling ones that display some interest in a bird wing, or a dead pigeon ... and then there are two who will fight over the bird carcass ... and one that will always WIN and carry off his prize. That's the one you train & breed, of course. It also explains those dead birds in baggies next to the ice cream in my freezer.

You'd probably get a different overall response from the "low end" of even working retrievers, compared to the wild-eyed ones that swing from the chandelier & break into the liquor cabinet. Hmmmmmmm.

Looking back, most of our dogs, both rescue & bred here, tend to be scent hounds and a few terriers. No sighthounds except a couple of Great Danes, one of which is essentially blind & partially deaf. This might also explain why our nose-using dogs are not particularly overwhelmed by TV.

Does this make the issue sufficiently murky? I suspect the scientific answers are a long way off and I'll just have to stick to guesswork & tea leaves.

Probably better to just test a bunch of fluffy show dogs and see if the government will fund it.
 
I would guess that a rabbit's hearing is much better than its eyesight. Your bunny probably has drawn a connection between the sound of Farscape (maybe the voice of one of the characters, as well as the theme song?) and something pleasurable.

(Why do we say "eye"sight? Is there some other kind of sight?)

Hindsight?:D
 
Remind me never to come to your house for ice cream.

Just the prospect of facing 15 or 16 overly friendly large dogs mobbing you at the door tends to keep a lot of idle visitors away.

Eventually we picked up a little office-type fridge at a yard sale, and kept it in the kennel for bird storage. We had a stillborn puppy in the house fridge once, since we wanted it posted by our vet to see what went wrong. As long as the oddball stuff was kept in double baggies ... eh, why not?

The prize gross-out, though, has to go to my wife's first husband, long deceased. A bit of a madman (probably why we were good friends), he had little use for people who didn't like dogs. He used to entertain a lot here, since he was a mortgage banker, and one big investor came to dinner here with his wife -- a very snooty pair that obviously didn't like dogs and were politely quite disdainful of the four retrievers sitting in the dining room with them, getting little tidbits thrown their way.

At some point John was so annoyed with the guests' attitude toward the dogs (who, after all, lived there) and really didn't care anymore whether he got their business or not, so he then put his dinner plate on the floor for one of the dogs to lick clean. This got some really uncomfortable eye-rolling between the guests, so John then, after the plate was licked completely clean, calmly picked up the plate -- keeping up a conversation the whole time -- and casually stuck it back in the cabinet on top of the other unused ones...just as if he did this every day... and asked who was ready for dessert?

The guests seemed to have lost any appetite for dessert & brandy, and left rather hurriedly, never to be heard from again. I've always thought my wife deserved some sort of award for keeping a straight face through that little prank. I'm not sure I could have.

There are dog people ... and then there are not-dog people. We are, possibly, a bit extreme....
 

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