The 9/11 Conspiracy Facts

Ok Jonny, my God...

Look. You have a document. It is, to an astonishing degree, a blueprint for the WOT (War On Terror).
In my Loose Change guide I pointed out the instances where terrorism was mentioned in "Rebuilding America's Defenses." It is quite clear that terrorism was not considered to be a major part of global defense strategy.

Can you point out where PNAC advocates the U.S. abandoning its bases in Saudi Arabia and spending hundreds of billions of dollars and thousands of lives in invading and occupying Iraq?

Oh, that's right, it doesn't. Yet you claim they wrote what is to an "astonishing degree" a blueprint for the War on Terror. That somehow omitted these things? That is astonishing.

This reminds me of Randi's example of the "Psychic Friends Network" telephone scammers who employed 2400 "psychics," yet not one of them predicted that the company would go bankrupt the next day.
 
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Of course, what mjd doesn't seem to grasp is those German scientists were conspiracy theorists. Had the internet been around then we debunkers would be all over THEM as well.
 
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This reminds me of Randi's example of the "Psychic Friends Network" telephone scammers who employed 2400 "psychics," yet not one of them predicted that the company would go bankrupt the next day.

If I call a psychic and she doesn't pick up the phone before it rings, I hang up.
 
Ok Jonny, my God...

Look. You have a document. It is, to an astonishing degree, a blueprint for the WOT (War On Terror). Not only does it state the individual elements, but also that they have to be pursued under one global banner, it should be crystalised in decision makers bminds by Oct 2001, and that they will take a long time absent a catastrophic and catalysing event like a new PH.

This doc is signed by many of the men who will be in charge of running and protecting the US on and up to 911. Now, there is a huge secutiry infrastructure in place, in order to stop a new PH happening. This means that the chances of one happening, absent gov complicity, are very small. With gov complicity wouldnt be hard, since they are the ones at the controls, right? So when this happens, and the gov has stated its propitiousness only 12 mths ago, something smells fishy, no? Further, when such occurs, bang in time as had been stated, things look very dodgy indeed. So let's move on, bearing this in mind.

When Bush came to power, he had been warned by the Clinton admin that AQ were a deadly and urgent threat. He was handed a doc by the counter terror czar, Dick Clarke, on 25th Jan, entitled "Strategies for dealing with AQ". Bearing in mind that AQ were th most likely people to do a new PH, Bush demoted Clarke the next day.

Bush was then offered OBL by the Taliban in Feb. He said no thanks.

He was then warned 40 times just at PDB's, just by Tenet, the DCI, of the imminient threat of an AQ attack. He did nothing. He was told that they were AQ cells in the US, and that they were plotting hijackings. He did nothing.

Read this
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline&before_9/11=warnings
Watch this
http://youtube.com/watch?v=zK-te3Y0m5A
And read "Against all enemies" by Dick Clarke.

This will all help u

ETA- Oh, and just to remind you, th argument here is that there is sufficient evidence of gov complicity to warrant an investigation into it.


OK, so you're just making a huge assumption. Yet when Alex Jones does the same thing and make a very vague prophecy (or "blueprint" that is bound to become true, then it must be so. And no one accuses him of anything.

It's the naustrodamus syndrome. Make a bunch o vague enough statements and you can predict the future. But again, you are simply drawing wild conclusions here and can't back them up with anything tangible.

Wow, what are the chances of there being a catastrophe in the future? What's the chances of a group wanting to fight terrorism on a global level since at the time it was starting to get out of hand? What's the chances of a group wanting to advance technology? What's the chances of the world starting to become a more global community with things like the internet taking off and all.



And again, what is that evidence and why doesn't one of you guys who feels so strongly go investigate? I myself cannot work purely on speculation and conjecture. I don't think the law or any court system can either, so that is probably your big road block. And luckily our court system doesn't work like that or anyone could just simply make up anything about anyone else under the pretex that it seems coincidental in their opinion.


Vote for Pedro.
 
Of course, what mjd doesn't seem to grasp is those German scientists were conspiracy theorists. Had the internet been around then we debunkers would be all over THEM as well.

Imagine a JREF circa 1930...

Ado1930: You debunkers LOLZ!1! Aryan race is better, see this YouTube video with hip swing soundtrack!!!!
<youtube link to Loose Reichsmarks>

Heil!!!onez...

WoodrowFan: Your video has been discussed ad nauseum here, but I am willing to post 14 elegantly written points detailing various discrepancies or outright lies.
<info follows...>

RouX: All the points made in the video are debunked in my Guide to Loose Reichmarks.

Ado1930: Are you all toools of the Weimars? Shills!

heiL!@!!!

And so on...
 
Let me get this straight MJD you reckon after Bush, the President of the USA, received clear, precise and spot on warnings, forty in total,that read perfectly clearly four planes were going to be hijacked on Sept 11th and flown into the landmark buildings, he said something like

“Ah just ignore them, nobody will notice"?
 
Well this must be theoretical Chrono-synclastic infundibulum of mjd. (My apologies Gravy) mjd, I'll give you credit for your persistance, and theoreticly give you credit for the case your attempting to make.
 
What should Bush have done? Listen to what Bob Kerrey from the 911 Comm suggests:

This Bob Kerrey.

Kerrey's behavior during the 9/11 hearings — hectoring witnesses, mugging for the cameras, delivering a windy monologue to Dr. Condoleezza Rice ("Dr. Clarke") and then complaining about his time being "eaten up" — has been abominable. But it was Kerrey's shameful TV appearance on Monday night alone that should disqualify him as a commissioner on a federal panel investigating the deadliest enemy attack on American soil.

Catapulted back into the limelight thanks to the mass murder of 3,000 innocent men, women, and children, Kerrey took advantage of his terrorist-induced celebrity to appear on Comedy Central's The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.

http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/malkin200404281058.asp
 
someone made it up for me because of this tool on MySpace who was comparing US Troops to Nazis and called for everyone to support Iraqis in the war. He also said he was a "terminally injured" ballerina who also studied jui-jitsu and was "fairly confident" he could "choke out 70-80% of the entire Armed forced in less than a minute"
 
He also said he was a "terminally injured" ballerina who also studied jui-jitsu and was "fairly confident" he could "choke out 70-80% of the entire Armed forced in less than a minute"
Over a million people? That is good!
 
someone made it up for me because of this tool on MySpace who was comparing US Troops to Nazis and called for everyone to support Iraqis in the war. He also said he was a "terminally injured" ballerina who also studied jui-jitsu and was "fairly confident" he could "choke out 70-80% of the entire Armed forced in less than a minute"

Support the Iraqis in the war? Which ones? The ones killing the Shiites or the ones killing the Sunnis?
 

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