Common FDR Arguments Addressed

[Myriad]

Can I say attention whore here?

Me thinks both his little CIT project and robbies pretend pilots site are practically dead. No traffic. No news. Nobody to talk to.

Remember, crazy people don't know they're crazy. That goes for attention whores too.

Fortunately, we here at the JREF Clinic have a pilot program (no pun intended) for breaking the grip of attention addictiion.

First, we substitue carefully controlled doses of scorn. This satisifes the addict's physical cravings for attention, without the pleasurable sensation or "high" that real attention confers.

We then, over time, gradually reduce the amount of scorn administered. As patients adjust to lower levels of scorn, some begin thinking more clearly, provoking even less scorn in the next round. In some cases a positive feedback or "virtuous cycle" sets in which accelerates the recovery process. However, some patients remain strongly addicted to the scorn itself, and will even attempt to manipulate the system to increase the amount of scorn they receive. We have termed this "trolling." Such efforts must be resisted at all costs. Progress cannot be made unless the scorn dosage is rigidly restricted.

Respectfully,
Myriad

 

[ConspiRaider]

Fortunately, we here at the JREF Clinic have a pilot program (no pun intended) for breaking the grip of attention addictiion.

First, we substitue carefully controlled doses of scorn. This satisifes the addict's physical cravings for attention, without the pleasurable sensation or "high" that real attention confers.

We then, over time, gradually reduce the amount of scorn administered. As patients adjust to lower levels of scorn, some begin thinking more clearly, provoking even less scorn in the next round. In some cases a positive feedback or "virtuous cycle" sets in which accelerates the recovery process. However, some patients remain strongly addicted to the scorn itself, and will even attempt to manipulate the system to increase the amount of scorn they receive. We have termed this "trolling." Such efforts must be resisted at all costs. Progress cannot be made unless the scorn dosage is rigidly restricted.

Respectfully,
Myriad

To be honest I don't think we've heaped enough scorn. C'mon 9/11 JREFers, you can do better!

I think we're providing many services, not the least of which is keeping Lyte Trip off the streets of midtown Manhattan (tourist spot) doing the three-card monte.

 

[LashL]

Just a JREF poster on a saturday night, lookin' for the fight of his life
In the real-time world no one sees him at all, they all say he's crazy

Posting threads to the beat of his heart, changing lie into fact
He has posted into the conspiracy forum, when a poster becomes a post

It can cut you like a knife, if the gift becomes the fire
On a wire between will and what will be

He's a braniac, braniac on the forum
And he's posting like he's never posted before
He's a braniac, braniac on the forum
And he's posting like he's never posted before

On the ice-build iron sanity is a place most never see
It's a hard warm place of conspiracy, touch it, but can't hold it
You work all your life for that moment in time, it could come or pass you by
It's a push of the world, but there's always a chance
If the hunger stays the night

There's a cold connective heat, struggling, stretching for defeat
Never stopping with his head against the wind

He's a braniac, braniac, I sure know
And he's posting like he's never posted before
He's a braniac, braniac, I sure know
And he's posting like he's never posted before

(Solo)

It can cut you like a knife, if the post becomes the fire
On a post between will and what will be

He's a braniac, braniac, I sure know
And he's posting like he's never posted before

Nicely done ~ definitely worthy of addition to this thread.

Fortunately, we here at the JREF Clinic have a pilot program (no pun intended) for breaking the grip of attention addictiion.

First, we substitue carefully controlled doses of scorn. This satisifes the addict's physical cravings for attention, without the pleasurable sensation or "high" that real attention confers.

We then, over time, gradually reduce the amount of scorn administered. As patients adjust to lower levels of scorn, some begin thinking more clearly, provoking even less scorn in the next round. In some cases a positive feedback or "virtuous cycle" sets in which accelerates the recovery process. However, some patients remain strongly addicted to the scorn itself, and will even attempt to manipulate the system to increase the amount of scorn they receive. We have termed this "trolling." Such efforts must be resisted at all costs. Progress cannot be made unless the scorn dosage is rigidly restricted.

Respectfully,
Myriad

Indeed. Some, like JDX-by-proxy-in-the-form-of-Lyte, are, apparently, among the sub-set of twoofers who are particularly resistant to attention-whore therapy, due to their particularly high levels of scorn-addiction, which results in blatant, silly, and pathetic trolling on the part of the afflicted. It's almost sad, really.

Almost.

 

[Mobyseven]

I am constantly amazed by teh internetz. The availability of references is mind-boggling (at least to this mind).

You've never heard of Pocky???

Greatest Japanese treat ever! (Well, not ever, but you get the hyperbole.)

I stocked up on them when I came back from Japan at the start of 2004. That and Pocari Sweat!

 

[Mobyseven]

On another note, when did CIT and P4T team up to become 'super-truuth'?

 

[WildCat]

Doesn't the mere fact that the FDR was found inside the pentagon self-debunk any claims that the plane flew OVER the pentagon?

Of course not! Obviously, the plane dropped the FDR onto the Pentagon as it flew over.

 

[WildCat]

Pocky?

 

[AZCat]

You've never heard of Pocky???

Greatest Japanese treat ever! (Well, not ever, but you get the hyperbole.)

I stocked up on them when I came back from Japan at the start of 2004. That and Pocari Sweat!

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/127444668b2a5d3988.jpg

I am not familiar with this "Pocky", nor have I ever encountered "Pocari Sweat".

"Pocari Sweat" sounds like a variant on "Salivex". You might remember the slogan: "It's like having a Salivation Army in my mouth! Now I can suck a Lollipop for as long as I want!" It's probably not the product for me if it is - I prefer home grown persperation rather than "sweat shop" persperation.

 

[Mobyseven]

Pocari Sweat - greatest energy drink ever.

I'm still going through withdrawl symptoms three years down the track.

 

[CurtC]

I stocked up on them when I came back from Japan at the start of 2004. That and Pocari Sweat!

I brought back an empty can of Pocari Sweat to decorate my cube at the office, but the damn cleaning crew threw it away. And a can of Calpis.

 

[D'rok]

Just had to delurk to say...that was frikkin awesome. Henry Butler is the man.

 

[apathoid]

There was a link to a thread on the PFT forum that disputed the missing seconds off the FDR - they say the standards for manufacture require no more than 0.5 seconds of data loss if the unit loses power. I haven't seen that addressed here, but then again I just can't handle wading through every page of every thread that Lyte perpetuates. Can anybody give me a link to a post that responds to it?


Dave

That might be a new claim by PfT, not sure. But I'll comment. There are two boxes which make up the flight data recording system. Just as important as the FDR is DFDAU, which collects the data and streams it to the recorder itself. If the FDAU loses power, it loses power - nothing will be sent to the FDR. How can the FDAU lose power? Off the top of my head:

-#1 engine shutdown with the AC busses in isolation.
-#1 engine generator trips offline(or selected off) with busses in isolation.
-#1 engine shutdown/generator off with bus tie inop.
- air/ground relays disagree.
- internal failure of FDAU power supply.
- power supply wiring open/shorted.
- FDR circuit breakers opened.

Now, I'm not implying that any of the above conditions existed during AA77s Pentagon approach - just throwing out some hypotheticals that kill the "0.5 data loss argument"..