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[Dancing David]

hmmm.. a buddhist with a trophy wife. What a great sect you have created with such respect for women.

Down with buddhism and the hypocrits that defend it.

Ah as Asthmatic Camel asked me "Did you have your sense of humor surgicaly removed?"

My wife is my second wife and is fourteen years younger than I am, she is also very wonderful and has a great sense of humor. So I love her dearly and call her my trophy wife as a lark.

She thinks it is funny and I just asked her if she minded, as she came in the door, "No. Why , who says that?"

 

[Dancing David]

You could easily say that about the other side.

If you cant ignore a troll you cant blame anyone else for feeding them.

Dancing david is a retard even if he isnt dyslexic.

My trophy was says "Bite me". She knows a joke when she hears one.

You obviously do not care to respond to any discussion of the original topic you stated in the OP. Perhaps posting direct questions will cause you to ignore my take on buddhism. Even now you just hop in for a little flame and you don't even do a reach around and participate by answering direct questions.

I am a direct hard knock materialist and I believe that I have found merit in the eightfold path. It is somewhat like cognitive behavioral therapy.

So if I try to follow the eightfold path and I do not believe in reincarnation, I believe there may have been a human or group of humans that started the myth of the alleged historical buddha. I don't believe in a soul, spirit or any sort of magic. I don't think faith will solve your problems. I think that the only way to change ones life is through the choices we make.


SO WHERE DO YOU DISPUTE MY BELIEFS AS STATED THERE?

Sorry for yelling but you ignored the last round of questions.

 

[Dancing David]

Yet more of your incredible civility. You are truly an angel amongst men, onemind.

Well Crowley did always say it was hard to tell a demon from a diva or angel.

 

[Taffer]

not sure, am not keeping track of all the hypocrits in this thread. Are you practicing right speech?

What has that got to do with the arguments presented in this thread?

 

[Taffer]

Then get the **** off this thread.

Unfortunately you don't have the power to enforce that. In fact, it is very childish to think you do. Grow up and move on, onemind. Do you have arguments to present or are you going to continue bitching and moaning like a little child?

 

[Taffer]

yawn..

I just thought at first you actually knew what you were talking about but you turned out to be just a little **** stirrer.

Do you think one has to believe in Buddhism to discuss it?

 

[Taffer]

well i thought i did but it was ignored with the strawman argument and everyone went back to talking about dyslexia..

Where?

 

[Taffer]

Dancing david is a retard even if he isnt dyslexic.

Why, because he doesn't agree with you?

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

quite - and dyphonetic dyslexia itself has a detrimental effect on one's ability to spell!

That isn't what the site says.

Are you completely confident that dysphonetic dyslexia has no impact on an individual's ability to spell? Are you still completely confident that Dancing David is lying about having dysphonetic dyslexia?

The site says it has no impact on spelling.

Dustin are you physically incapable of admitting you made a mistake? You seem to have a pathological tendency to lie, shift the boundaries, deceive and be deeply disingenuous, all to "save face" - just so you never have to admit to yourself that you were wrong.

I admit mistakes when I've made them.


Here's another link proving my point.

Dysphonetic dyslexia has also been called auditory dyslexia. This person has difficulty connecting sounds to symbols. The Auditory dyslexic might have difficulty sounding out words with spelling mistakes showing a difficulty with phonics.

http://educator.readingsuccesslab.com/Glossary/Dysphonetic_Dyslexia.html

This makes it clear that if someone who has Dysphonetic dyslexia has spelling problems then it's a result of difficult with phonics and not due to their Dysphonetic dyslexia.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

Thanks Dustin you are showing that you are just like a drunk who throws up on themselves and calls it perfume.

You ignored my post content and then insult me. Address the post.

Just to give you more ways to call vomit perfume.

Yes my firend has PhD is Child Developmental Psychology

Keep adding to your ever more absurd story and excuse for not being able to spell.

and you don't know how to think or read

http://www.diaread.com/dyslexiatypes.htm

http://educator.readingsuccesslab.com/Glossary/Dysphonetic_Dyslexia.html

http://www.adcov.com/Dyslexia.html

All of that supports my initial claim. Re-read what it says. The Auditory dyslexic might have difficulty sounding out words with spelling mistakes showing a difficulty with phonics.

 

[Lonewulf]

This makes it clear that if someone who has Dysphonetic dyslexia has spelling problems then it's a result of difficult with phonics and not due to their Dysphonetic dyslexia.

 

[yrreg]

You hate me, hahaha! because you feel threatened for being Buddhist.

Yrreg - Once again, your ignorance of, hatred for, and envy of Buddhism keeps bringing it to people's awareness in a postive way. Kind of sweet that this is the last thing you'd want.

[...]

... I have no desire to become a scholar of Buddhism or to intellectualize it. ...

[...]

I am just exercising critical thinking and doing the habit of search for empirical evidence by taking up critique of Buddhism in an academic manner -- and enjoying it tremendously.

I am now doing that tack also with stock trading.

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I am amazed how people can be like you for one infatuated with Buddhism, all because they can't tell the difference between what is discovery and what is fiction -- they are dazzled with the fiction, all because they are so immature in thinking process.


Now, yu will hate me even more.

What is that about hatred being the most sincere praise, or envy. You can't think for yourself, everything must be borrowed, glaring proof is your blind faith in Buddhism.



Just joking only, no offense intended.

Yrreg

 

[yrreg]

The obstacle with Buddhists here.

Ah Welcome back Yrreg!

You were never able to substantiate that claim the first time or all the other times you made it.

Can you show us where that is true?

Will you show us where the eightfold path is predated in other places?

I don't want to state anything anymore about what the whole world understands to be Buddhism, because the Buddhists here will say that it is not the genuine Buddhism, as intended by Gautama.

So I am asking them to mention a piece of genuine Buddhism and I will tell them whether it makes sense from a scientific and rationalist skeptical assessment -- or not.

At this point they will demure, and say instead that they are Buddhists because they call themselves Buddhists.

That is why it is impossible to have an intelligent and productive discussion with Buddhists here. They don't have any idea of communication.


Yrreg

 

[andyandy]

All of that supports my initial claim. Re-read what it says. The Auditory dyslexic might have difficulty sounding out words with spelling mistakes showing a difficulty with phonics.

i am astounded you continue to try to argue this - you obviously hadn't bothered to read david's links. I've added some more. I've also highlighted the relevant sentences as you seem to have trouble with English comprehension.

Dysphonetic Dyslexia

If a child can’t read (decode) and/or spell (encode) because he or she is unable to break phonetically regular words (also known as phonetic words) down into their sound parts, this condition is known as Dysphonetic Dyslexia.

http://www.diaread.com/dyslexiatypes.htm

Dysphonetic dyslexia is caused by a dysfunction of the Wernicke's Area in the left hemisphere of the brain. Children with this form of dyslexia have difficulty sequentially analyzing and remembering what and where the sounds are in words. The resulting phonemic processing problems make it difficult to sound out new words, learn phonics, and make them dependent on their sight vocabulary. When they come to an unknown word they will often substitute a word using context clues. For example, "pony" for "horse", even though the substituted word doesn't look or sound anything like the original word. When spelling unknown words it is often difficult to determine what the original word is. For example, they may write "fmlue" for "familiar" or "lap" for "lamp". They cannot learn phonics because they cannot process where the sounds are. Their short term sequential auditory memory can be poor and result in repeating "8167" as "8671", or remember to go to their room but forgetting to get the item requested.

http://www.adcov.com/Dyslexia.html

The major characteristics of dysphonetic dyslexia include 1) inability to sound out most words and those that are correct are based upon a very limited sight vocabulary, 2) reading contextually; that is, basing the word on the context of the story or upon the pictures in the story. For example, seeing the word “puppy” and substituting the word “dog” based upon the story line because the child is unable to sound out the word “puppy”, 3) spelling words with letters left out, substituted or inappropriately added.

http://www.dyslexiacentershelp.com/id8.html

The dysphonetic type of dyslexia results in poor word attack skills (phonetic decoding) and transposition of letters when writing, for example solw for slow.

http://www.scco.edu/ecc/visiontherapy/Dyslexia.html

When talking about dyslexia, some people may hear the terms ‘dysphonetic’ and ‘dyseidetic,’" says Dr. Wax. Dysphonetic refers to those who have a hard time sounding out words or with spelling. This can also be called auditory dyslexia because it is associated with how people process the sounds of language

http://healthisnumberone.com/libdyslexia.htm


You are categorically, 100% wrong in your claim that Dysphonetic Dyslexia has no effect on a persons' ability to spell. You have called david a liar about his condition despite no evidence to back it up. You continue to mount your absurd defense of your position simply to avoid having to admit that you might have made a mistake. You claim you admit mistakes when you've made them - well go on then - do it - or you'll give everyone here categorical proof that you are a liar.

 

[Dancing David]

You ignored my post content and then insult me. Address the post.

Funny thing about that, you ignore my post content and then called me a liar.

Keep adding to your ever more absurd story and excuse for not being able to spell.

Now that is even funnier Dustin, I explained my behavior, I did not ask you to excuse it in the least.

BOGUS CHALLENGE TO THE DUSTIN: Show me my post in this thread where I asked you to excuse my behavior. I in fact took accountability and said I had been lazy and would start using spell check.

BTW: Did you read this from the first site I marked and quoted?

http://www.diaread.com/dyslexiatypes.htm

ENCODING: Ability to spell words. Words are spelled two ways:

(A) Spelling by sight or visualizing the word as a whole
(B) Spelling by sound or breaking the word down into its sound parts or phonemes.
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Dysphonetic Dyslexia
If a child can’t read (decode) and/or spell (encode) because he or she is unable to break phonetically regular words (also known as phonetic words) down into their sound parts, this condition is known as Dysphonetic Dyslexia.

Did you see that part? Remember when you told me I just need Hooked on Phonics and I said that phonic spelling doesn't work so well for me?

It you don't believe that the archaic spelling of english is the problem, than why call me a liar?

All of that supports my initial claim. Re-read what it says. The Auditory dyslexic might have difficulty sounding out words with spelling mistakes showing a difficulty with phonics.

Reread what I quoted above. You need a bath.

 

[Dancing David]

I don't want to state anything anymore about what the whole world understands to be Buddhism, because the Buddhists here will say that it is not the genuine Buddhism, as intended by Gautama.

Uh, the whole world recognizes the eight fold path as part of buddhism. You stated repeatedly that the eightfold path is predated in other cultures.

So have you got any evidence, any citations, any documents or any data to suggest that the parts or whole of the eightfold path are preceded?

The funny thing is that none of the buddhists here claimed that the Alleged Historical Buddha was original to begin with.

But you made the claim, can you support it?

So I am asking them to mention a piece of genuine Buddhism and I will tell them whether it makes sense from a scientific and rationalist skeptical assessment -- or not.

The eightfold path.

There that is a piece of genuine buddhism, it is the fourth alleged truth of the AHB.

At this point they will demure, and say instead that they are Buddhists because they call themselves Buddhists.

Try the eightfold path, as in the fourth alleged truth of the AHB.

That is why it is impossible to have an intelligent and productive discussion with Buddhists here. They don't have any idea of communication.


Yrreg

Brother Kettle, I would like you to meet Brother Pot.

 

[Complexity]

I am amazed how people can be like you for one infatuated with Buddhism, all because they can't tell the difference between what is discovery and what is fiction -- they are dazzled with the fiction, all because they are so immature in thinking process.

Now, yu will hate me even more.

What is that about hatred being the most sincere praise, or envy. You can't think for yourself, everything must be borrowed, glaring proof is your blind faith in Buddhism.

Just joking only, no offense intended.

Yrreg

I'm not infatuated with Buddhism - I found something at its core worth thinking about.

I'm not the first person to live. Many others have had interesting thoughts. The best thoughts I find are worth keeping close at hand.

I think for myself and am open to the best of others. I prefer thinking for myself - it is fun and I understand it better than I do the end products of the thinking of others. I also have more confidence in the words that I think with than the words that others have used.

Hate you? I haven't been thinking about you.

 

[andyandy]

dustin, you've gone a bit quiet.....

admit a mistake, or be proved a liar?

decisions, decisions

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

dustin, you've gone a bit quiet.....

admit a mistake, or be proved a liar?

decisions, decisions

You're quite right about that. The recent websites you provided made it clear that the dysphonetic type of dyslexia could result in impaired ability to spell words. I admit I was mistaken on that account.

However It's not really relevant to this discussion. Davids post are still far too difficult to decipher due to his spelling for me to respond to point by point.

 

[yrreg]

Okay, give me your cogitation and adheration and verbalization of the eightfold path.

Uh, the whole world recognizes the eight fold path as part of buddhism. You stated repeatedly that the eightfold path is predated in other cultures.

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And make an affirmation to the effect that you believe in your cogitation and adheration and verbalization of your understanding of the eightfold path, like this:

"I declare from my honest mind that I accept the eightfold path of Buddhism as I have here explicitly declared it, in accordance with my cogitation and adheration and verbalization, etc., etc., etc., so help me the members of this JREF forum, etc., etc. etc."​

Because I don't want anymore to invest time and trouble showing you how the materials concerned if they make sense on critical thinking and empirical evidence they antedate Gautama, and if they make for nonsense they are not in accordance with critical thinking and empirical evidence upon which scientific and rationalist skepticism is founded.


I have to impose this requirement on you, Dancing David and also the Buddhists in JREF forum, otherwise you keep behaving like slippery eels.


Yrreg

PS Nothing personal here though; I am just having some fun with mental exercises, and I hope we all are into the kind of fun I have in my mind and heart, mental exercises as in mental pastimes.