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My First Ever Banning

Gravy said:
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Gravy said:
Miragememories, you imply that I enjoy feeling the need to set vicious morons straight when they attempt to incorrectly revise history. I don't. I was quite happy spending no time with vicious morons. Further, I have lost thousands of dollars by debunking vicious morons when I could have been working. Saturday happens to be the busiest day of the week for tourism in New York City. Saturday "get togethers" at Ground Zero? You are sick. I go there to confront vicious morons who spit on the graves of murder victims and who disparage the people who choose to risk their lives to help others.

You think I'm happier because 2,749 people were murdered in a single day, in the city I love so much that I decided to make it my home, my avocation, and my profession? Where down the street 12 men who went to save people in the south tower didn't come back, and the last words of one of them were "It's a big job, honey. I love you." Where my neighbor puts out a single flower every day in memory of her son who died in the north tower?

You don't know me, you don't know my family, you don't know my friends, you don't know my neighbors, you don't know the people I volunteer with, you don't know my city.

Think I'm having a good time with this, you anonymous internet creep? Not man enough to apologize? Go to hell.
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I did reply to you.

Come on Mark. This is too funny. All eyes are glued and of course Mark is going to calculate every response. Truth is something that only exists in privacy.

Yes yes yes Mark you are stating the obvious. I don't know you. You are an interesting person and if not for 9/11, I'm sure we could have a positive interesting dialogue.

Unlike you, I don't feel compelled to call people morons to support my beliefs.

I doubt you have lost thousands of dollars though your use of lost dollars to support your cause shows what you value.

You are a master manipulator I'll grant you that. That arts degree wasn't wasted was it?

When thousands of people are murdered and the evidence clearly indicates the wrong people are being accused of the crime, is it wrong to protest?

When I look at you, I'm not sure what I see. I'll grant you the benefit of the doubt and believe you feel the way you do because you are a flag waiving American who can't stand the pain of accepting that fellow Americans could have been involved in 9/11.

Well grow up Mark!

You aren't in Oz any more and it doesn't matter what you think or what I think. It's all coming to a boil regardless.

Enjoy your celebrity status while you can.

It won't change a thing and I don't give a rat's *** what you think of me!

MM
 
twinstead said:
Okay. MM, If indeed these codes are a direct result of 911 you have a lot of 'splainin' to do.

You are blowing this stuff off, aren't you?
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You've lost me twinstead.

Maybe you haven't noticed but I'm fielding more than a few posts here.

Clarifying what you are referring to would help me in my response.

Sorry to make you "crack a sweat".

MM
 
You know, of all the insults I've seen levelled at Arts degrees (and heaven knows there are many), this is the first I've ever seen/heard involving being manipulative rather than (say) working in fast food establishments or getting the diploma off the back of a cornflakes packet......

:duck:
 
Miragememories said:
Speaking of research, other that mastering Google and "apple-C" what have you accomplished since 9/11 Marky?
MM
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Back at you expert researcher. Is that your level? Google and "apple-C"? I figure you must have experience in what you call out. But since you asked, I ask back, what have you accomplished since 9/11?

Darn, I will answer it too, since I hate to ask question without giving it a try first. You have managed to mess up 9/11 and come up with ideas not supported in facts. Unlike the heroes of flight 93 who figured out 9/11 first, and took action, you have literally messed up everything and come up flat, with no viable information on 9/11. Did I get close?
 
stateofgrace said:
And you have accomplished what exactly?

Selling DVDs full of lies and mistruths, maybe investing all you spare time into accusing innocent people of mass murder. Oh wait maybe joining forums to find out the truth, ask questions, ignore the answer then return later to keep trying to sell the same discredited claims?

What have you achieved MM? Have you stopped the war out in Iraq? Have you put forward any alternative foreign polices? Have you even got any?

Maybe the truth movement has galvanised mass matches through the streets, lobbied the United Nations, called for new and better resolution to address world polices, em no, maybe not. You have no answers, you have no polices all you can do is condemn those who refuse to listen to you.

Are you going to actually address my post MM, remember you said it was all one big lie, to which I posted this.





Show me how much you have achieved show me your vast understanding of world events, come on MM you have been at this for years, it's all one big lie. Are you going to actually tell me who is lying? Sometime today will do.
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Oh come on stateofgrace are you that desperate to raise your post count that you have to respond to Gravy's stuff?

I don't sell DVDs!

This is really hilarious.

You don't care what I say, what evidence I present, how good my arguments are etc..admit it.

When I post you quickly glance at my words and then launch into your OCT rhetoric.

Well fair enough. If you and the rest of the gang can watch the videos of the WTC7 collapse and convince yourselves that that is a "ya right..of course" natural collapse..well more power to you. Obviously you are scoring the really good dope.

I've spent the better part of my life editing broadfcast video for the government and I just can't ignore what I know about how they can adjust politically unsatisfying material.

You folks are either naive or on the payroll of those responsible for 9/11.

MM
 
Miragememories said:
Well fair enough. If you and the rest of the gang can watch the videos of the WTC7 collapse and convince yourselves that that is a "ya right..of course" natural collapse..well more power to you. Obviously you are scoring the really good dope.
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Argument from personal incredulity.

Your posts are rife with those, and very, very short on fact or informed opinion. Please go back and make the needed corrections. Thanks.
 
Miragememories said:
Yes yes yes Mark you are stating the obvious. I don't know you. You are an interesting person and if not for 9/11, I'm sure we could have a positive interesting dialogue.
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With the exception of 9/11 deniers, I avoid spending time with pathological liars who support terrorists and who get their kicks by falsely accusing people of mass murder.

Miragememories said:
When thousands of people are murdered and the evidence clearly indicates the wrong people are being accused of the crime, is it wrong to protest?
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I wonder when MM will present this clear evidence.

I wonder what he and the rest of the "truth" movement are waiting for. Why don't they just shut us up with this compelling evidence that they're hoarding?

I wonder what makes them think they have such evidence, when all rational people know they don't.

What a bizarre, sad bunch they are.
 
Miragememories said:
Oh come on stateofgrace are you that desperate to raise your post count that you have to respond to Gravy's stuff?

I don't sell DVDs!

This is really hilarious.

You don't care what I say, what evidence I present, how good my arguments are etc..admit it.

When I post you quickly glance at my words and then launch into your OCT rhetoric.

Well fair enough. If you and the rest of the gang can watch the videos of the WTC7 collapse and convince yourselves that that is a "ya right..of course" natural collapse..well more power to you. Obviously you are scoring the really good dope.

I've spent the better part of my life editing broadfcast video for the government and I just can't ignore what I know about how they can adjust politically unsatisfying material.

You folks are either naive or on the payroll of those responsible for 9/11.

MM
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Save your appeals to emotions I am not your friend and I will not enter into a binding brotherly bond with you.

You are accusing people of mass murder. A list of possible suspects as been put to you.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php...24&postcount=3

Now for the third time of asking answer the question. You have claimed it all one big lie, who is lying?

Who is responsible MM, ?
 
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Miragememories said:
You don't care what I say, what evidence I present, how good my arguments are etc..admit it.

When I post you quickly glance at my words and then launch into your OCT rhetoric.
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Spiraling further into nonsense and self-pity. Mirage will find numerous posts in this thread that refute his claim, and he will dismiss them, as he dismisses all rational, fact-filled explanations that interfere with his fantasies.
 
Miragememories said:
Well fair enough. If you and the rest of the gang can watch the videos of the WTC7 collapse and convince yourselves that that is a "ya right..of course" natural collapse..well more power to you. Obviously you are scoring the really good dope.MM
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The dope must be you problem. If you were not doing so much dope you could go to the police and turn over the evidence you and Charlie Sheen have proving the 9/11 was an inside job. I think you must be on too much dope to go to the police. Right?

See, you are the one on too much dope to notice in the video there are no sounds of explosives during WTC7 collapse, since it was due to fire, which would have cooked off your mystery explosives well before "zero hour 9 am". Fire destroys the strength of steel, have you been in a coma, or smoking too much dope?

You can not even discuss the mph/KIAS issue and try to talk about the very things you bring up. How long will you be on this truther quest without facts?
 
R.Mackey said:
Argument from personal incredulity.

Your posts are rife with those, and very, very short on fact or informed opinion. Please go back and make the needed corrections. Thanks.
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Oh climb off your high horse RM.

Anyone with a brain can see that collapse for what it is.

Do you wipe up with the american flag or what?

MM
 
Gravy said:
Spiraling further into nonsense and self-pity. Mirage will find numerous posts in this thread that refute his claim, and he will dismiss them, as he dismisses all rational, fact-filled explanations that interfere with his fantasies.
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Did you actually say something there Mark or was that just the 'shrooms talking?

MM
 
stateofgrace said:
Save your appeals to emotions I am not your friend and I will not enter into a binding brotherly bond with you.

You are accusing people of mass murder. A list of possible suspects as been put to you.

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php...24&postcount=3

Now for the third time of asking answer the question. You have claimed it all one big lie, who is lying?

Who is responsible MM, ?
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Well you sound like a good candidate.

Where were you on 9/11?

MM
 
Were you all just planning to fling insults around, in which case I'll awa to bed (its late here in the UK), or were we going to get around to a substantive discussion at some stage?

:p
 
Miragememories said:
Did you actually say something there Mark or was that just the 'shrooms talking?

MM
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There you go again with the drug stuff. Stop the drugs, then you can contact the police with the evidence to break 9/11 wide open. Have you tried to do that yet? Have you gone to the police with this damning evidence to prove 9/11 was an inside job? Are you afraid the police will get you for your drug use? Is that why you have not broke this story yet? Or did you finally notice you have no facts that are useful for anything? Which is it?
 
Miragememories said:
Anyone with a brain can see that collapse for what it is.
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I fear that the lack of support for the controlled demolition hypotheses amongst the professional and hence qualified construction industry professionals does indeed concur.

Where were you on 9/11?
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At work, with the rest of the tall buildings team, watching it on a poor quality streaming video and all agreeing that collapse was inevitable given what was clearly extensive damage.
 
Miragememories said:
Oh dear.

I guess you didn't like me reporting your sinking to slander as a means of defending your arguments RM?

How many buildings have you knocked down with your lawn hose lately?

MM
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Unless you call explaining how 570 MPH at 0 MSL is an entirely achievable speed for a 767 "slander," I have no idea what you're talking about.

Nor do I care. Welcome to Ignore.

Best of luck with your search for the truth -- the real one. If you're very lucky, some day you may merely feel silly about what you used to believe.
 
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