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Dustin Kesselberg said:
He doesn't have dyslexia. And EVEN IF he does have the dyslexia he claims he has, it wouldn't affect his ability to spell.
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wow, different reason number 4 now

1) first you deny posting derogatory comments after david had told you he had dyslexia

2) then you say, well, yes your post was made after he'd told you, but you hadn't read his comments

3) then you're saying that yes, actually he did tell you about having dyslexia - but you chose not to believe him.

4) Now not only are you saying categorically that he does not have dyslexia - but you're now also redefining dysphonetic dyslexia to be a condition which has no effect on a person's ability to spell.

The terms 'dysphonetic' and 'dyseidetic' are words used to describe typical symptoms of dyslexia. The person labeled 'dysphonetic' has difficulty connecting sounds to symbols, and might have a hard time sounding out words, and spelling mistakes would show a very poor grasp of phonics. This is also sometimes called "auditory" dyslexia, because it relates to the way the person processes the sounds of language.
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http://www.dyslexia.com/qasymptoms.htm#d981130


I await excuse number 5 with interest - and perhaps justification as to why you're categorically sure that dancing david is lying.
 
onemind said:
is it wrong to fantasize about having sex with aliens?
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Do you have a point at all? Or have you fallen to off-topic randomness in a vain hope that we'll give up and go away, and you will thus be able to claim victory?
 
I think you will find that i am the only one that attempted to bring this back on topic only to have my posts ignored with gibberish and the battle of one upmanship continues.

Now please anwer my question, is alien sex too kinky for humans?
 
onemind said:
I think you will find that i am the only one that attempted to bring this back on topic only to have my posts ignored with gibberish and the battle of one upmanship continues.

Now please anwer my question, is alien sex too kinky for humans?
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i think you'll find that you demanded "civility" and then derided the replies to your post as "pathetic." Given that you've offered nothing of substance in 10 pages, beyond a very simplistic, "I get to choose who is and isn't a Buddhist so i can set up the strawman i want," it's not any real surprise people have stopped bothering debating with you. Maybe if you said something interesting, you'd spark some interest.
 
yrreg said:
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Paging Loss Leader: see any hate speech here? or at least extremely cruel content against a fellow poster?


Between Ryokan and Dancing David, Ryokan seems to be postgraduating from his summer of infatuation with Buddhism; but with Dancing David, he is the bigoted funadmentalist equivalent Buddhist.


Just my spontaneous evaluation.


Take cover, everyone, he is going to hurl his private parts at you, for contradicting his views and logic and spelling -- or keep your aunties out of sight.


Yrreg
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So close,

"I wave my private parts at your aunties!"

Monty Python and the Holy Grail.

Hey this is a good thread for you , you have at least two more people to join the Yrreg Club!

Dustin is capable of hate speech as i am! i actualy agree with a lot of his politics.

Welcome bag Yrreg, I shall endevour to be less rude this time.

I apologise.
 
onemind said:
I was hoping it would regain civility and get back on topic.
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I believe that 90% of what can be termed buddhism is hogwash for the weakminded, although the rituals have the same appeal as most rituals.

As stated before i follow the pali canaon mainly , in it I have found that it agrees with my view on the main subjects of contention in mainstream buddhism

kamma: is the consequences of choices in act, word and thoughts

reincarnation: is not possible because there is no soul or atman to be transmitted

nibbanna: the extinguishment of conditioned responses to pain and pleasure


I think that faith based buddhism is a crock, I find the twelve links as usueful metaphor but as a way of showing reincarnation, absolute hokum.

I believe that anyone who has seen a monk fly is easily deluded.

there is no "future buddha", the path is the path, all who follow may become enlightened.

the Alleged Historical Buddha:
-did not make a mango tree grow from a seed in a moment
-was not born of the mating of a white elephant with his mother in a dream
-did not chide his followers for flying to the top of a pole on a dare
-could not predict the future
-did not claim there was one universal mind
-did not claim that his path cured all ills
-did not glow in the dark
-did not talk to the animals

the Alleged Historical Buddha:
-did not accept women into the sangha until his mother and wife forced him to
-likely disdained homosexuality
-probably had crabs as various times
-pooped in a ditch
-had days where he was cranky and rude
-ate meat when it was put in his bowl
-secretly maturbated or had sex Ananda
 
onemind said:
Ok, fair argument and i will try give an answer in a civil way to see if we cant have a decent discussion.

I keep hearing that i am making this strawman out of buddhism but i completely disagree. I have discussed the core tenents from most of the mainstream buddhist teachings. To all buddhists that believe in rebirth, nibbana and karma my arguments are valid.
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And I believe that 90% of what is termed buddhism is rubbish.

I believe that most mainstream practices go against the teachings of the Alleged Historical Buddha as represented in the heavily edited Pali canon.
Then you say, what about all the other buddhist sects that practice meditation and understand the unsatisfactory impermanent nature of life but dont believe in rebirth karma and nibbana. I have dealt with this group by arguing as to why this group would label themselves buddhist in the first place and be grouped in by non buddhists and associated with the mainstream rebirth believers.
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Why would it matter, Yrreg called us "elite buddhists", does it matter that we are not "ethnic buddhists". If we choose to call ourselves buddhists, than so be it.

I am not sure i would call a disorganised group of sceptics who call themselves buddhists either 'retards' or "a sect".
All i have heard is a defence of the label "buddhism". This label has become meaningless that you need to clarify it further by naming your sect and school of buddhism.
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The buddha said(again the AHB is alleged to have said) that followers of the path should think for themselves and us the tools and ideas on their own. there is no need to organise as a sect except to go out and get drunk or play D&D or something.
The school doesn't need a name, it is a disorganised group of individual who meet at the JREF.
It is fair to say that a large percentage of buddhists belong to schools that believe in rebirth, nibbana and karma, and the rest are either agnostic about it, dont believe it or have alternative definitions for the words and claim they are metaphors for different concepts.
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It is also true that many people don't wash their hands after they use the bathroom. Some even voted for GW Bush. ;)
Where is the straw man? I have dealt with the label "buddhism" and its various interpretations of the word.
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You seemed to call us artards without evidence by claiming that we were not what we think we are?

that is straw arguing, putting statements in the mouths of others and then defeating the statement. Although you do pale in comparison to the King of Straw.

then you tell us how to define words so you seem to not acutaly want to discuss things.
If you would like to discuss why I am wrong i would love to hear it, i dont want to hear that i am a bigoted troll nooby.
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Then stop telling me what I think and how to use words so that they conform to your defintions and expectations.
 
onemind said:
And that is just one of the many things i am critisising about buddhism. The cherry picker argument. There is no strawman, my critisims include every possibility of the label buddhist so enough with the defining scotsman bs and give me valid reasons for the label.
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Hmmm,

So I aknowledge that most of buddhism as it is practiced is rubbish, and you have yet to address the POV I hold on kamma, reincanation and nibbanna. And then you say that you have refuted my arguments.


Where, I missed that part?

So where have you refuted my argument? What?
 
onemind said:
Pathetic. :rolleyes:

Buddhism is beyond critisism because it is undefinable, a lot like god.
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Now that looks to me like more straw.

I don't believe that people here have said that buddhism is exempt from criticism. i am very critical of it.

Where in this thread did someone say buddhism is above criticism?
Show us please that we may learn.

And it is not undefinable so far we have:
-the beliefs and practices of people who are ethin/cultural/converted buddhists
-the beliefs and practices of people who call themselves buddhists
-the beliefs that are in common to most people labeled as buddhists, the eightfold path, the four truths, etc.
 
Dustin Kesselberg said:
In his initial assertion I drew into question his changing story about "just learning" that he has dyslexia specifically because 'Dysphonetic Dyslexia' wouldn't affect his ability to actually spell words simply his ability to sound them out.
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That would hinder me in learning to spell. Fortunately my mother taught me to read in third grade.

I said I misused the term dysphonia. And I apologised. If you can't sound out words as in "Hooked on Phonics", than you memorise all the words you speel, or rely on spell check, which i will try to do more often.
'Dysphonetic Dyslexia' is a form of auditory dyslexia while "Dyseidetic dyslexia" is is the type of dyslexia that would hinder spelling. If someone with 'Dysphonetic Dyslexia' has a problem spelling then it's likely a phonics problem not related to that individuals dyslexia.
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How do you think phonic spelling works.
1. You say the word or hear the word.
2. You associate the sounds with the symbols used to spell.
3. You spell the words based upon the transfering of the sounds to the symbols.

Which part of perhaps not being able to do 2 don't you understand?

dysphonetic dyslexia is "a phonics problem " related to spelling.
http://www.dyslexia.com/qasymptoms.htm#d981130


In the second part of his post I said "I can spell English just fine though. Why can I and you can't?" because he was making up excuses SEPARATE from the dyslexia which involved the inherent traits of the English language.
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Thanks for being a jerk, you could change your ways Dustin.
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Dustin Kesselberg said:
He doesn't have dyslexia. And EVEN IF he does have the dyslexia he claims he has, it wouldn't affect his ability to spell.
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Thanks again Dustin, you are greatly appreciated by one and all.

Why would I lie?

Would you like to talk to my mother, or brother or my friend who told me I was dysphonetic?

Yours must be a very interesting life.
 
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