The Doc vs Pdoherty - Debate Underway

Kent1; said:
Another point people fail to realize is that the TALLEST skyscraper building EVER demolished on record was the J.L. Hudson Department Store at 439 feet tall.
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FYI- I saw that happen. As an expert on seeing the largest controlled demolition in the history of mankind, I can safely say it did not look similar to WTC1,2. It did look similar to WTC7, but there was a much larger, for lack of a better word "KABAM!" This is my opinion as an expert in seeing the largest controlled demolition ever to happen in the history of mankind.
Coincidentally I also saw the Woodward building (owned at the time by non other that "The Hudson Bay Company", go figure) imploded. If you haven't had the chance to see a controlled demolition i suggest you do, it brings out the kid in you.
 
There is a new site called 911debates that allows people to debate in a somewhat fair fashion with posted rules on the debate process. Our own Pdoherty (current name here j911ob) is up against a JFER known as "The Doc" and the topic is WTC7.
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What the hells a JFER? James Foundation Educational Randi?:eek:
 
Newfoundlanders would be dismayed to hear that others think they use "eh?" in their sentences. In general, by west, i meant west of my location in Atlantic Canada, so that means our nation's Capital qualifies...lol

The community in NL that you refer to, is called "Vibrator".

no...j/k...there is a town in NL called "Dildo".

TAM:)
 
Regarding the nuttery of Pdoh's post about the withdrawal. FDNY gave the order at 2:30. Some suggest like Hayden that everyone was pulled back at around 3:30-3:30.

http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc7_pulled.html

I just saw he ACTUALLY claims the firefighters are in on it and wired the building in record time. LOL! What the heck. If they demoed it then why hide it. How dumb. I note he couldn't answer.

Since Jowenko claims "A team of experts did this...this is CD without a doubt. Maybe then he could point out this team of experts and show the world how this was done and why this is CD without a doubt.

Brent from Implosion world has written a paper.

http://www.jod911.com/WTC COLLAPSE STUDY BBlanchard 8-8-06.pdf

Factual evidence overwhelming? LOL! So far the best he can do is handwaving from a lone voice in a large field in all of the world.
I really think Pdoh might be a bit mentally ill.
 
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Pdoh claims WTC7 had 'irrelevant' damage and a 'modest' fire yet was still demolished.

I wonder why nothing else was demolished as well. Bankers Trust of course had a big hole in it. There were reports that 1 Liberty Plaza and World Financial 3 would collapse. I remember the news on 9/12 showing a live shot of WFC3, the anchor said there were fears this building would also fall. They didn't feel the need to do any rushed demolitions on those feared collapses, how strange.
 
3bodyproblem said:
FYI- I saw that happen. As an expert on seeing the largest controlled demolition in the history of mankind, I can safely say it did not look similar to WTC1,2. It did look similar to WTC7, but there was a much larger, for lack of a better word "KABAM!" This is my opinion as an expert in seeing the largest controlled demolition ever to happen in the history of mankind.
Coincidentally I also saw the Woodward building (owned at the time by non other that "The Hudson Bay Company", go figure) imploded. If you haven't had the chance to see a controlled demolition i suggest you do, it brings out the kid in you.
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I've witnessed a couple myself and I can tell one with my eyes closed. The noise is amazing and no one there said anything. Never happened!
 
Pdoh now claims that Jowenko is "Hollands top demolition expert". I wonder what the criteria for that is....being the most outspoken proponent of a CD theory?


I love how when the topic is WTC7, Jowenko is the "top expert" but when it comes to WTC 1 & 2, he doesn't know anything.
 
DGM; said:
I've witnessed a couple myself and I can tell one with my eyes closed. The noise is amazing and no one there said anything. Never happened!
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Yah, the "KABAM" is kinda unmistakable. The overpressure would have blown out the windows in every single building within a the area. Never Happened!
 
nicepants said:
Pdoh now claims that Jowenko is "Hollands top demolition expert". I wonder what the criteria for that is....being the most outspoken proponent of a CD theory?


I love how when the topic is WTC7, Jowenko is the "top expert" but when it comes to WTC 1 & 2, he doesn't know anything.
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He also is acusing the FDNY of the very least being an accomplice to insurance fraud!
 
Very good stuff Maverick/Doc, you're flaming his ass! His response to your superior dogfighting skills? Irrelevant. When he's holding his butt in his hands without a plane surrounding him - will that be irrelevant too?

"Ice, I'm right on the Mig/P'Doh's tail. On the count of 3, break right. Three, two, one...BREAK RIGHT!"

"Okay Ice, I'm moving in I'm going for radar lock. I've got him, Merlin, I've got good tone, fire it!"
 
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I recall having the WTC7 debate with pd when he was "Aphelion." He made just as little sense now as he did then.

Indeed he is the only twoofer that I've seen who is dumb enough to claim that WTC7 was taken down in order to aid in rescue ops.

Why the cover up? I kept asking.

Cuz...ummm....maybe the broke some rules?

Unreal.
 
Arkan_Wolfshade said:
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The only way it could have been brought down by demolitions is if they were pre-planted. If they were pre-planted in WTC 7, then it becomes arguable that they were pre-planted in WTC 1 & 2
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IF the explosives were pre-planted that just begs the questions as to why and when. The why and when of pre-planted explosives would then require advance knowledge, weeks ahead of 9/11/01, that the building was to be demolished which then leads to giant conspiracy.

P.D.'s conjecture eliminates the why and when and therefore also a giant conspiracy involving the entire WTC complex, but now begs other questions such as how it could have been proposed that explosives be loaded into a 47 storey office building that is structurally unsound and on fire and still have some assurance that it would fall where you wanted it to. It also begs the question as to why, since all went well and the building did fall doing relatively little damage, this demolition-to-enable-rescue-operations-to-continue was kept a deep dark secret.
 
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