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Damien Evans
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Ion, stop your useless trolling and insulting claims about Azure
Oh, and back up your claim that Azure is disabled or retract it
BTW, as highlighted above Azure DOES speak French, contrary to your bs claims
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I tested his French.
He knows squat in French.
He and Darth Rotor are trolling the thread.
To summarize my discussion with Azure:
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A.) the Germans contradicted Bush's claims of WMDs in Iraq;
the Germans disproved Bush's war;
German Chancellor Schroeder is on the record as being dumbfounded by Bush's daft religious 'inspirations' to cover up gaps in Bush's case for WMDs in Iraq;
B.) Azure claims that Armitage doesn't have an axe to grind, per Woodward;
by Azure's magical leap of logic, this exonerates Bush of wrongdoing;
Azure claims that Bush took the claim of Iraqis using Nigerian uranium from U.K.;
by Azure's magical leap of logic, this exonerates Bush of wrongdoing;
Azure is wrong on both accounts;
Armitage might not have an axe to grind -I don't care-, but Bush has;
Bush using the claim of Iraqis employing Nigerian uranium -claim originated in U.K., Turkmenistan, it doesn't matter- does make Bush endorsing a claim he knew to be false;
So Bush is a liar;
(I specifically used the analogy of someone endorsing claims known to be false from the Bible, as that someone being a charlatan)
C.) Canada rejected Bush's claims for WMDs in Iraq and rejected the war;
a lot in Canada is in French;
when Azure doesn't speak French, this Canadian rejection of Bush goes above his head;
I prompted Azure six times about Canada rejecting Bush's claims and war;
he doesn't know.
This exchange with Azure came up when I was asked how I knew in 2003 that there were no WMDs in Iraq.
France, Germany, Canada, Angola, Sweden, Mexico, they stated it.
In U.S., Ritter stated it.
In U.N., Blix, Baradei, they stated it.
So, that's how I knew in 2003 that Bush was lying about WMDs.
WMDs were not found in Iraq.
So I am right.
After his lie of WMDs, Bush forced the world with facts on the ground:
1.) pro-American government in Iraq (in progress now);
2.) changing Iraq's oil trade currency from Euros to U.S. Dollars (that was the first directive by Bush in 2003 after invading Iraq);
3.) long term U.S. troops presence in Iraq and U.S. priority access to Iraqi's oil (that was in the news about Bush intentions in yesterday's newspapers).
To achieve 1.), 2.) and 3.) Bush is no different than Soviet Union was in the 80s, or that Fascist Mussolini was in Ethiopia in the 1930s.
Iraqi insurgents who blow up oil pipelines supposed to benefit U.S., remind me of partisans like Jean Moulin who blew up German trains when Fascist Germany was occupying France in the 1940s.
The only winners in Iraq's war are:
the anti-war people who manage to escape collateral damage.
I am a winner.
To pro-war people I say today:
"I told you so.
It's not my fault.
It's yours."
and to:
Azure doesn't speak French, Damien Evans.
I tested his French.
He knows squat in French.
He and Darth Rotor are trolling the thread.
To summarize my discussion with Azure:
______________________________________
A.) the Germans contradicted Bush's claims of WMDs in Iraq;
the Germans disproved Bush's war;
German Chancellor Schroeder is on the record as being dumbfounded by Bush's daft religious 'inspirations' to cover up gaps in Bush's case for WMDs in Iraq;
B.) Azure claims that Armitage doesn't have an axe to grind, per Woodward;
by Azure's magical leap of logic, this exonerates Bush of wrongdoing;
Azure claims that Bush took the claim of Iraqis using Nigerian uranium from U.K.;
by Azure's magical leap of logic, this exonerates Bush of wrongdoing;
Azure is wrong on both accounts;
Armitage might not have an axe to grind -I don't care-, but Bush has;
Bush using the claim of Iraqis employing Nigerian uranium -claim originated in U.K., Turkmenistan, it doesn't matter- does make Bush endorsing a claim he knew to be false;
So Bush is a liar;
(I specifically used the analogy of someone endorsing claims known to be false from the Bible, as that someone being a charlatan)
C.) Canada rejected Bush's claims for WMDs in Iraq and rejected the war;
a lot in Canada is in French;
when Azure doesn't speak French, this Canadian rejection of Bush goes above his head;
I prompted Azure six times about Canada rejecting Bush's claims and war;
he doesn't know.
This exchange with Azure came up when I was asked how I knew in 2003 that there were no WMDs in Iraq.
France, Germany, Canada, Angola, Sweden, Mexico, they stated it.
In U.S., Ritter stated it.
In U.N., Blix, Baradei, they stated it.
So, that's how I knew in 2003 that Bush was lying about WMDs.
WMDs were not found in Iraq.
So I am right.
After his lie of WMDs, Bush forced the world with facts on the ground:
1.) pro-American government in Iraq (in progress now);
2.) changing Iraq's oil trade currency from Euros to U.S. Dollars (that was the first directive by Bush in 2003 after invading Iraq);
3.) long term U.S. troops presence in Iraq and U.S. priority access to Iraqi's oil (that was in the news about Bush intentions in yesterday's newspapers).
To achieve 1.), 2.) and 3.) Bush is no different than Soviet Union was in the 80s, or that Fascist Mussolini was in Ethiopia in the 1930s.
Iraqi insurgents who blow up oil pipelines supposed to benefit U.S., remind me of partisans like Jean Moulin who blew up German trains when Fascist Germany was occupying France in the 1940s.
The only winners in Iraq's war are:
the anti-war people who manage to escape collateral damage.
I am a winner.
To pro-war people I say today:
"I told you so.
It's not my fault.
It's yours."
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I bet they didn't.
You could argue that they "disproved his claims to justify the war." You'll get a lot of argument from sensible people on both sides regarding that claim.
You could even argue that "the Germans proved the war never even happened." Of course, no sane person would waste his breath arguing with you were you silly enough to make that claim.
But "the Germans disproved Bush's war" is a statement that is literally without meaning. It is like saying "Ion disproved BPSCG's shoes."
I wouldn't make such a point of this, except that
- you are bloviating at such length about how educated and intelligent you are, and how ignorant and stupid everyone else here is, and,
- you are making that same non-sensical statement over and over again, so it is clear it was not just a moment's lapse on your part.
BTW, the parts of your above post that I excised from my comment are full of such misuse of the English language. Believe me when I tell you that while you speak pretty good English for someone who wasn't raised speaking it, you are far from being a master of the language. There are such masters here; go to the Forum Community and click on "The Language Award" thread and you can see them at work.
Tricky
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Darth Rotor
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Not quite, you are a liar, since you claim to know something with no evidence, but I am willing to qualify that if you will tell us when, in 2003, you "knew" there were no WMD in Iraq. Was it in February? In December? Was it when Atta wasn't briefed anywhere, Prague or otherwise?
When?
DR
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Sorry, Tricky, he's your antiwar boy.
When he's at the airport, on the baggage carousel, going round and round with no tag, you are the guy who has to claim him, not me.
It comes with the badge. You have the chops to handle that small task. You are not required to take him home, just to get him off of the carousel and headed back toward his basement. (There's free beer in it, so it's not that onerous a task.
)DR
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I never "knew" it (and I still don't now) but several months before the invasion, I strongly suspected that if there were WMDs, they were few and far between. Hans Blix and the UN team couldn't find any, in spite of all that "intelligence" that the US was providing them on the locations.
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You do not make a false claim.
Since, after about five challenges to Ion with no satisfactory response and back up for his claim of knowing that there were no WMD, I correctly label him as one. I generally do not like to use the "liar" tag, it is used far too often incorrectly, but in this case, it is a proper descriptive.
I may retract the charge is he can show me something of substance.
DR
What a gibberish from the basement girl:
I guess you have Bush's intellect for 'achievements'.
Bush must be your ceiling in life.
"...WMD's..." by you, "...misunderestimate..." by Bush, that's about of equal I.Q..
All of your blabber (including the "...Was it in February? In December? Was it when Atta wasn't briefed anywhere, Prague or otherwise?...") was answered by me.
I guess you have Bush's intellect for 'achievements'.
Bush must be your ceiling in life.
"...WMD's..." by you, "...misunderestimate..." by Bush, that's about of equal I.Q..
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That's what I mean by "The Germans disproved of Bush's war.".
I am not the most proficient in English.
However, this is understandable for a foreigner.
What I criticize is people who grew up with English as their native tongue, don't know foreign languages, but still don't master English.
Bush for example.
Darth Rotor in this thread, also.
In Europe, one can not pass grade 10 of high school without mastering the native language.
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Here:
BPSCG wrote this:
I guess that "...WMD's..." by Darth Rotor, "...misunderestimate..." by Bush, and confusing "...disapproved..." and "...disproved...",
that's about of the same I.Q..
is another person who was raised speaking the English language, but doesn't master it.
BPSCG wrote this:
BPSCG never mentioned the word disapproved in his post.
I guess that "...WMD's..." by Darth Rotor, "...misunderestimate..." by Bush, and confusing "...disapproved..." and "...disproved...",
that's about of the same I.Q..
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You are too impressionable by what you don't understand.
Like starting an unjust war because Bush impresses you.
Remember?
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Because he gave you more credit than you evidently deserved. He was pointing out that your usage of the word "disproved" made no sense, and gave a sentence in which the word was used correctly. It's not his fault that you couldn't figure out the correct word to use in your sentence.
The funny thing wasn't that you made the mistake. In fact, the funny thing wasn't even that you repeated the mistake. The funny thing was that you didn't even notice when you were corrected. Do you know the difference between "disprove" and "disapprove"? Can you even figure out the difference?
"...WMD's..." that's a mistake by Darth Rotor.
WMDs is correct.
You don't seem to realize it considering your post, but you need to learn English too.
Suuuuure, Ziggu.
You confused disproved with disapproved in BPSCG's post.
But you will learn English sometime.
It's your native tongue, after all.
That's the least you can do.
Even now, in your old age, it is not too late, and it is worthy considering how often you open your mouth.
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