[Moderated]175 did NOT hit the South tower.

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Stalin had expected to be invited to sign the ultimatum against Japan. This would justify the Soviet violation of the neutrality pact. But Truman's decision to issue the ultimatum without inviting Stalin prompted Stalin to move up the date of attack against the Japanese forces in Manchuria by 10 days to August 11. The race had begun.


But despite the devastation and horrific carnage of the Hiroshima blast, Japanese leaders continued to argue and to hope for Soviet mediation. The atomic bomb on Hiroshima shocked Stalin, however. Stalin was convinced that the bombing of Hiroshima would immediately lead to Japan's surrender. He thought he had lost the race. But upon learning that the Japanese government continued to seek Moscow's mediation to terminate the war, he again moved up the date of attack against Japan by 48 hours, to the midnight of August 9, Far Eastern time, which was 6 p.m., August 8, Moscow time.
When the Japanese ambassador met with the Soviets in Moscow at 5 p.m. on August 8, however, he got unexpected news. The Soviets declared war on Japan and within one hour invaded Manchuria. Several hours later, the United States dropped a second atomic bomb on Nagasaki. Again the Japanese authorities were unswayed. Despite the destruction visited upon a second Japanese city, it was the invasion by the Soviet Union that got Japanese attention. Finally, on August 14, with the Soviets gobbling up Manchuria, the Japanese, extremely fearful of falling under the influence of the Communists, tendered their unconditional surrender,
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If today, you were to ask the "man on the street" when WWII ended, I doubt if 10% of the people would have any idea. Those who were alive at the time would still have a variety of answers. Some might say it ended on August 6th when the Atomic Bomb was dropped on Hiroshima, some would say it ended on August 9th when the Atomic Bomb was dropped on Nagasaki and others might say it ended on August 14th when Emperor Hirohito announced the Japanese surrender. I would guess that the majority who did have an inkling as to the end of the war would say it ended on September 2nd on the deck of the battleship USS Missouri, when General MacArthur accepted the formal surrender of the Japanese Empire.
However, if you ask one group of veterans when the war with Japan ended, they would tell you it ended on October 15th, 1945, in Tientsin, China. On that day, the United Sates Marine Corps accepted the surrender of more than 500,000 Japanese troops in mainland China. The majority of these Marines were members of the 1st and 6th Marine Divisions who had just completed the long and bloody campaign on the island of Okinawa. They were among the hundreds of thousands of American serviceman preparing for the final assault to end the war and were scheduled to land on the Japanese homeland on November 1st. Had this invasion actually taken place, it would have made Valley Forge, Gettysburg, the Marne and even Iwo Jima look like Boy Scout Camporees. President Truman's difficult and courageous decision to drop the Atomic Bomb not only saved a million American casualties, it undoubtedly saved 10 million Japanese casualties.
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/september/2/newsid_3582000/3582545.stm

This is what happened after the Japanese surrender, 14th of August, 1945 and what could have happened.
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surrender aboard the USS Missouri, September 2, 1945
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malcolm kirkman said:
WW2 had been over for 3 months and 3 days by then.
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As of August 8, 1945? Nope, it had a few more days to go (but only a few).

I guess this means your grasp of history is lacking, too. Is there anything you actually mastered at school, or has the summer break now allowed you to shut down all rational thought completely?
 
malcolm kirkman said:
WW2 ended with the surrender of German and Axis forces on May 5th 1945.
It became known as VE Day.
WORLD war 2, get it. WORLD war 2.
The war againgst Japan ended on VJ day.
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Why learn history when you can simply make it up? Well done!
 
Slayhamlet said:
Because you should follow French spelling conventions when spelling words borrowed from French. Quite simple.
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My mistake. Only God is perfect. I'm glad I got something wrong. I was beginning to feel quite elevated.
 
jsfisher said:
Care to cite a reference for that? ...and let's not be fooled by "verb, transitive" which is simply the inverted from of "transitive verb."

Or is this another of your hunches, so it must be true?
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Ithink it is due to his penchant for abuse, comma, the use of, and disregard, blatent, grammar, the rules of.
 
This guy is a troll. He is pulling our collective leg with his contrived idiot routine, the sole intention of which is to exasperate us beyond what our minds can tolerate while remaining sane. Nobody can be this utterly and hopelessly wrong about everything. There is no other explanation.

Go away, troll.
 
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Rolfe said:
Aw, but some of us are having so much fun! And won't someone think of the kitties?

I'm still agog to find out just how much dosh is "loadsa", and how many "lorras" there are to "your" dollar.
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