[Merged]architects and engineers for 9/11 truth = SCAM!

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I'd join the site, however I have two problems.

1. For others to see my name associated with the site might hinder my research and credibility.

2. Currently they have added NOTHING new to the debate and tend to be far behind current research. Gage uses a phony explosion video, they claim there's only one photo of WTC7 fire, alive hijackers, etc. etc.
 
This is pathetic:

Richard Gage at ae911truth.org said:
We will be re-setting the Forum for use by members only. This will allow us to engage in a much more productive discussion, debate and research. All are welcome to join AE911truth.org and you will be displayed as a member on our website demanding a Congressional investigation with subpoena power of the building collapses on 9/11. Architectural and engineering professionals will be displayed along with your professional status, City, and State or residence or practice after we contact you and verify your identity and credentials. "Others" will be displayed pending similar verification. You will then have access to the user forum.


So anyone can join them in ordering Congress to make a new investigation into 9-11, but to post on the forum you have to be verified first. Nice priorities.
 
I must say, I was rather hoping that the twoofers' first engineering site wouldn't be run like all the ones with punk kids at the helm.
 
I can still post there, don't know for how long. There's a lot of no-planers on that forum. I'm truly astonished that Ace Baker has company in his beliefs. CB_Brooklyn is certain no one actually saw any planes hit the towers, and buys into the live TV CGI and beam weapon nonsense.

Oh well, had some fun there.
 
This is pathetic:

So anyone can join them in ordering Congress to make a new investigation into 9-11, but to post on the forum you have to be verified first. Nice priorities.
Catch 22, you have to be one of us to debate us.

That will be one, real, silent, forum. Everyone will be saying, yes you are right, no you are right, yes you were, no you were. We agree on everything, how perfect. What do we do with those who disagree? No one disagrees, we are all us...
 
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For what it's worth, in the RIBA we'd send the heavies round for people who used our logo in the way that Mr. Gage has purloined the AIA one. We only permit its use on drawings, site singboards, and (if you're really lucky) correspondence.

I'm tempted to make a prfessional approach to them myself....
If AIA does not make Gage take down their symbol and name, then they do not live up to their own words.
 
I can still post there, don't know for how long. There's a lot of no-planers on that forum. I'm truly astonished that Ace Baker has company in his beliefs. CB_Brooklyn is certain no one actually saw any planes hit the towers, and buys into the live TV CGI and beam weapon nonsense.

Oh well, had some fun there.

I think CB_Brooklyn is an Ace sock, hes taken to talking to himself.
 
Gage has taken it down, so you have to sell your soul to post at AEFTF when it comes back. He is busy spreading lies in Canada.
 
I can still post there, don't know for how long. There's a lot of no-planers on that forum. I'm truly astonished that Ace Baker has company in his beliefs. CB_Brooklyn is certain no one actually saw any planes hit the towers, and buys into the live TV CGI and beam weapon nonsense.

Oh well, had some fun there.

Forum's down now, links there take you to Gage's note about re-setting the forums.

I think this para is worth noting:
Richard Gage said:
We regret that we have had to take these measures which are due to the abuse of the forum by those who do not respect productive technical analysis and have been disruptive to the discussions. It is an unfortunate reality that there are those who prefer to spread negativity and cause problems under the guise of honest and intelligent discussion and debate. The time for debate has passed and we must now move forward and look to the future. Apologies to those who chose to support ae911truth.org, and made valuable and appreciated contributions with their posts. We hope you return to our new forum.
(emphasis mine)

I think the quote speaks for itself. I, for one, am not expecting much from the AE9/11Truth group.
 
I'm tempted to make a prfessional approach to them myself....

I was thinking of doing that also, as a mechanical engineering student. I'm not sure it'd be worth it, though--I'm sure they'd just kick me out as soon as I opened my mouth. Also, as I've previously pointed out to a member of S911T, I feel that Canon 6, and its Interpretation a) of the ASME Code of Ethics prohibits me from joining or participating in any events sponsored by such an organization.

6. Engineers shall associate only with reputable persons or organizations.
a. Engineers shall not knowingly associate with or permit the use of their names or firm names in business ventures by any person or firm which they know, or have reason to believe, are engaging in business or professional practices of a fraudulent or dishonest nature.​


In addition, I feel that Canon 7 and Interpretations a), b), and d) thereof also apply to AE911T

7. Engineers shall issue public statements only in an objective and truthful manner.
a. Engineers shall endeavor to extend public knowledge, and to prevent misunderstandings of the achievements of engineering.
b. Engineers shall be completely objective and truthful in all professional reports, statements or testimony. They shall include all relevant and pertinent information in such reports, statements or testimony. . . .
d. Engineers shall prepare articles for the lay or technical press which are only factual.​


[ETA: For those who've read my introduction post, yes, even though I have a history degree, I'm now an engineering student (4th semester). Plus I used to be an accountant. It's a long story. :boggled: ]
 
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I'd join the site, however I have two problems.

1. For others to see my name associated with the site might hinder my research and credibility.

2. Currently they have added NOTHING new to the debate and tend to be far behind current research. Gage uses a phony explosion video, they claim there's only one photo of WTC7 fire, alive hijackers, etc. etc.
I imagine that a lot of us here could pass the qualifications to be listed, but I agree with you, Kent. Unless and until it an open site, I don't plan on associating my name with that web site.
 
I think CB_Brooklyn is an Ace sock, hes taken to talking to himself.

A CB_Brooklyn turned up on a Irish message board forum just the other day. After we started laughing at Judy Wood's new paper's appendices.

Hmmmm....
 
CB_Brooklyn is also at DU, where he's posted a thread claiming that the ae911 boards are a 9/11 Cover Up Perp site. Evidently, he was spamming the ae911 boards with things like Killtown's Frozen Fireball crap and the ubiquitous Half In/Half Out 175 freezeframe. So maybe we can't take all the credit.

:D
 
CB_Brooklyn also turned up on the Straight Dope Message Board the other day, tried to push Judy Wood's energy beam dustification theory, and was laughed at.
 
If AIA does not make Gage take down their symbol and name, then they do not live up to their own words.

I find it ironic that AIA refuses to recognise European qualifications, although there is little doubt that they're equivalent standard, yet let this poor misguided fellow join.

:confused:
 

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