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Digg.com Hijack by Conspiracy Theorists

NeoRicen

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Arrgh... should say HijackED.

It seems the social news site's World and Business section has become a breeding ground for Conspiracy Theorists. As far as I can tell any article from Prison Planet or Info Wars etc. seem to be getting alot of Diggs.

Interesting considering the majority opinion on Digg appears to be that the conspiracy is false. Are Alex Jones and his groupies engaging in organised spamming on Digg of their conspiracies?

As I write this a story by Charlie Sheen demanding an investigation etc. etc. (CT nonsense) has 311 Diggs.

http://www.digg.com/politics/Charlie_Sheen_Responds_To_New_York_Post_Hit_Piece

Some examples of the mass stupidity in the comments:
Sheen is a true American hero.
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+39 Diggs

Ooh, another arrogant statement from a tin foil hat wearing jackass! Dry up and die, Sheen!
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-37 Diggs
In Response:
u are sooooo brainwashed. take a look at the facts urself! www.loosechange911.com ...........idi...ahh forget it.
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+12 Diggs
You die, u freaking neo-con nwo lover, go and have a 3-some with michelle malkin and bill o reilly.
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+6 Diggs

this stupid ppl in New York times love to make stories based on lies, mind you, the NY Times is part of the new world order..they are one of the top newspapers who are critizing the 9/11 truth movement, however, NOTHING can really stop the truth from coming out. WE THE PEOPLE DEMAND a NEW investigation into 9/11...at least i do, and i know 10 of thousands of citizens would love that too. Peace. URL mypasce?.com/myspace911news check me out
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+16 Diggs

Discuss.
 
Just vote to bury that stuff, that's about all you can do. The good news is that Digg is indeed a social network and the top folks seem to despise the 9-11 kooks, so it's pretty self-regulating. Vote to bury the commenters over there as well, even if they're +39. Either it will work or Digg will start to suck.
 
I use Digg from time to time, and I love the concept of the site. However, the community there flat out sucks.

The community can be summed up very, very easily - ignorant, stupid teenagers with a vastly inaccurate world view..
 
i dont bother to comment unless the comments themselves are beyond pathetic. or the article itself is from alex jone's websites and are of course pathetic. otherwise, i just bury the articles and put a negative to stupid comments and idiots.
 
I know that digg and similar sites like it are filled with college age liberals who have a very extreme partisan view. Ok, there are lots of extreme righties on them too, but for the most part they are outnumbered.

But, I didn't realize they were transforming into CTers.

9/11 and CTs in general are still a sane vs. insane issue, right? It's not being morphed into a partisan left vs. right issue, correct?

Because if it ever gets to that point, that's just sad.
 
sivazh said:
I know that digg and similar sites like it are filled with college age liberals who have a very extreme partisan view. Ok, there are lots of extreme righties on them too, but for the most part they are outnumbered.

But, I didn't realize they were transforming into CTers.

9/11 and CTs in general are still a sane vs. insane issue, right? It's not being morphed into a partisan left vs. right issue, correct?

Because if it ever gets to that point, that's just sad.
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I'd say it's still lunatic fringe versus mainstream, but certainly there are more people on the left who are into it than on the right, for obvious reasons (initials are GWB). OTOH, the Left press has been more vocal and more substantive about debunking, with Corn, Monbiot, Chomsky and Cockburn all doing some pretty good work, probably because they do see the risk of it catching on amongst their readers (Cockburn's coeditor on CounterPunch, Jeff St. Claire, estimated in a video interview that 50% of their readership were 9-11 crackpots).
 
sivazh said:
I know that digg and similar sites like it are filled with college age liberals who have a very extreme partisan view. Ok, there are lots of extreme righties on them too, but for the most part they are outnumbered.

But, I didn't realize they were transforming into CTers.

9/11 and CTs in general are still a sane vs. insane issue, right? It's not being morphed into a partisan left vs. right issue, correct?

Because if it ever gets to that point, that's just sad.
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Correction, Digg is extremely Libertarian, Ron Paul is their favorite candidate, they all love their weed, want it legalised etc. etc. Hating the Bush administration doesn't automatically make you a liberal anymore.

I don't think they're CTers just yet, the 9/11 Conspiracy stories rarely last long on the front page, this thread was mainly pointing out how Info Wars and Prison Planet get dugg heaps (but then disappear) and the CTers go dormant again until the next story is posted.
 
Conspiracists really have to misrepresent the strength of their movement- it shows a lot of desperation. With the Ron Paul crap, the constant digg bombardment, the lies about the polls, etc etc- it's a wonder they don't try cloning themselves. I don't think they'd have any qualms about committing voter fraud, either. Scary thought.

Anyway, I've started digging at the great debunking sites, and I even put in some of my own videos- I guess meeting them in their own realm is the first method of attack.
 
Totovader said:
Conspiracists really have to misrepresent the strength of their movement.
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Which is why Digg is useless, as is every other user-controlled rating system out there. The lunatic fringe needs validation, and the only way they can get it is through Internet rating systems they can manipulate. No anti-ballotstuffing algorithm is going to stop a small, determined group of nuts that thinks the world will be forced to take them seriously if they can just get their conspiracy video past "Fire Fart" and "Barbie Girl parody" for the #1 slot in Google Video rankings.
 
Even if Digg had 9/11 conspiracy stories with thousands of Diggs on the front page, it wouldn't surprise me at all.

The membership there appears to be under the delusion that Ron Paul has even the slightest chance of winning over 2% of the primary vote.
 
Triterope said:
Which is why Digg is useless, as is every other user-controlled rating system out there. The lunatic fringe needs validation, and the only way they can get it is through Internet rating systems they can manipulate. No anti-ballotstuffing algorithm is going to stop a small, determined group of nuts that thinks the world will be forced to take them seriously if they can just get their conspiracy video past "Fire Fart" and "Barbie Girl parody" for the #1 slot in Google Video rankings.
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Indeed. I recall reading a post on LCF in which a "truther" was boasting about artificially inflating the number of views of Loose Change v. 3.0 on Google Video by something like 10,000 views in a single day - all by himself - and urging others to join him so that they could make Dylan's little video reach the top 100 or somesuch in the Google Video rankings. He also advocated embedding links to v. 3.0 in innocuous website pages so that the video would score a "view" even though the person reading the innocuous webpage would not actually even know the video was running.

While one can admire - on a certain level - the dedication of such an individual to his misguided cause, one cannot help but simultaneously laugh, cry, and marvel at the level of lunacy one needs to have reached to (a) spend every waking moment manipulating an online ratings system, and (b) being stupid enough to then write about it on a public forum, thus displaying the dishonesty and manipulation involved.



(Epilogue: The "strategy" did not work, alas. It seems that an insufficient number of "dedicated" troofers followed the young lad's exhortations to join him in his quest. Probably because most of them had worn out their keyboards and developed carpal tunnel syndrome from manipulating the online ratings system for v 1.0 and v. 2.0.)
 
NeoRicen said:
Correction, Digg is extremely Libertarian, Ron Paul is their favorite candidate. . .
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New favorite candidate. It used to be Mike Gravel before that. Most Digg users just fixate on the shiniest thing that passes in front of their monitor.

Digg took a dive over a cliff with their 3.0 revision, which is when they started allowing non-tech stories. I've already blocked the sports section (because I'm not at all a sports person), and I'm about to block the entire political section...
 
I generally hate Digg and what the people put there however I use it because there's alot of good content because there's so much of it, you just have to filter through all the crap but it's a good time waster.

The Science section can be pretty good though.

It was so much better back when it was only tech and had a smaller more intelligent community.

The more users the more crap, it happened to wikipedia, more people figured out you could edit it and now vandalism and neutrality are big problems with it.

Social news/encyclopedias DON'T work, it needs moderation and regulation. Not to get too politcal but Digg especially is one of the major reasons I've come to disdain the more extreme brand of Libertarianism.

It won't be long until CTers overwhelm it. Heck even Neal Adams' wacky Hollow/Expanding Earth videos made the front page.
 
The funny thing is, Ron Paul values pretty much everything the diggers hate.

He's religious. He wants gay marriage to be illegal. He wants abortions to be illegal, etc.

I also find it amusing how one day Digg will be in a complete uproar that a photographer had their work stolen. Then the next, will cheer when a musician has their non-released album ripped off before they even release it. They somehow think it is their right to obtain music for free :confused:
 
It appears to have happened again. Another prison planet.

http://www.digg.com/politics/Activists_Go_Face_To_Face_With_Evil_As_Rockefeller_Confronted_2

Some deliberate spamming is definately going on, these stories shoot up to the top of the upcoming page very quickly but alway get buried before or just after they make the front page. Also the comments tend to be far whackier than the regular digg user.

Something should be done.

One of these whackjobs attempts to explain why they get buried quickly:
Digg censors truth stories and helps satanists, serial killers, and child molesting baby killers stories go free and unnoticed by the rest of the world. Digg is just a clone of another whore who's available from a pimp for just the right asking price. I hope everyone in Digg's staff dies very soon and goes straight to hell where they an all their family members belong for helping child mass murderers go unnoticed and keeping the truth away from the view public. Thanks for your service Digg everyone sees it and just know that a huge karma's storm is going to be coming when the hell breaks loose and they start taking your kids and family.
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I would use Digg more, but all of the users throw around the word "censorship" like it's internet slang for "Hello."

They delete stories that are against the terms of service? 'CENSORSHIP!'
They delete stories that are completely illegal? 'CENSORSHIP!'

Watching Digg users is tantamount to watching a man urinate on the floor of a Wal-Mart and then complain when he gets thrown out.
 
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