*split* Lyte's proof that the Lloyd England's experience is false
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jaydeehess
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Is that a first responder at the Pentagon?
Not much to wrk with. Typical of Lyte though, just a snippet of info that is meaningless. No one can mount an arguement against this since there is nothing there yet. However it allows Lyte to hype it for weeks, months even, and gather a following that way.
Best bet is to just point out that, as a critical thinker, you will wait upon the revealing of what was said before making any judgement, and continue to ask when that might be. Since Lyte's game in the past has been to keep pushing the date of release back it is neccessary to keep reminding him of each missed date as well.
I saw Pentacon and cannot for the life of me understand why it took so long to edit. I have some non-linear editing experience and it is not all that difficult unless Lyte was learning as he went which is entirely possible since the finished product doesn't have much of a polish on it.
Not much to wrk with. Typical of Lyte though, just a snippet of info that is meaningless. No one can mount an arguement against this since there is nothing there yet. However it allows Lyte to hype it for weeks, months even, and gather a following that way.
Best bet is to just point out that, as a critical thinker, you will wait upon the revealing of what was said before making any judgement, and continue to ask when that might be. Since Lyte's game in the past has been to keep pushing the date of release back it is neccessary to keep reminding him of each missed date as well.
I saw Pentacon and cannot for the life of me understand why it took so long to edit. I have some non-linear editing experience and it is not all that difficult unless Lyte was learning as he went which is entirely possible since the finished product doesn't have much of a polish on it.
Cl1mh4224rd
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I can't help but wonder why they kept referring to their first release as "the smoking gun" version when they keep dropping teases about better "smoking guns" only being available in the version they're charging for, which is supposed to be merely the "researcher's edition".
It seems to me that they made the first release as a "trailer" for the later release, but are trying to hide it. If that's the case, their understanding of movie industry attention-grabbing techniques seems to be on par with their understanding of reality; you put all the whiz-bang, blow-your-mind stuff in the "trailer", so that people actually want to pay money for the "movie".
Which is what I would've expected from something being touted as the "smoking gun" version. All the heavy-hitting stuff should've been in there, while the "researcher's edition" should contain all the nitty-gritty details.
Yeesh...
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Piggy
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I prefer to tell them straight out that they have nothing. If they did, they'd publish it. They have zip, and they never will. No need to wait. They're full of it. Why mince words? If they want to prove me wrong, all they have to do is pony up. Til then, I stand by my word -- they're full of stuff and nonsense, no bones about it. They're liars and fools. Straight up, no chaser.
jaydeehess
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Well , that's really just a slightly more direct way of doing exactly what I said.
Basically it would go something like this;
Wayne and Garth say doodliliddle , doodiliddle.......
Twoofer: What about theanonymous person who was supposedly on the scene? they said this paraphrased quote! We videoed them saying it!
Intelligent person: When you show me the video, all the video not just the edited version, I will be able to comment on this. Until then I have nothing other than your own paraphrase or slant of what that person said. When will that be forthcoming?
Twoofer: We are working on the video.
Intelligent person: Go ahead, but I want to see the unedited interview from start to finish.
Twoofer: No, the raw footage will not be released.
Intelligent person: I cannot see any reason why not if you truly want me to render an opinion. However, your intransience at releaseing it is noted, along with all that might imply.
So when will we be able to see even the edited version of this interview?
Twoofer: I told you we are working on it. Probably in a month it'll be ready.
Intelligent person: Then I will have nothing to render an opinion on until that time when it is released.
Twoofer: I told you what he said.
Intelligent person: That is irrellevent to me wanting to hear it first hand. If you are going to discuss it then you will have to let people see it. If the whole video is not ready yet AND you want to discuss this one interview then post an ftp link to just that interview and we can discuus it.
Twoofer: You are twisting things and attempting to derail the discussion.
Intelligent person: On the contrary, you wish to discuss something that you will not let anyone else see. Therefore there is actually nothing to discuss and therefore no discussion to derail. When you are prepared to offer something concrete to discuss then we will do so.
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Lyte did this with Robert T's statement. In the run up to the release of Pentacon he stated that Robert T. had given them rock solid evidence that the plane had not hit the Pentagon.
Even now Lyte states that Robert's statement about the plane rising to clear the traffic signage is clearly indicative that the plane flew over the Pentagon. He still maintains that Robert said that the fireball obscured his view of the impact. He had said all of this before the release but it is quite obvious that Robert's statement about the plane rising at all has a serious flaw, he was running and moving up an embankement at the time the plane was supposedly rising.
Lyte completely misappropriates what Robert states in regards to the impact being obscured. Robert says that it was "still" obscured when it hit, all he saw was the fireball. Lyte completly fails to follow up on this and ask where he thought the plane had hit the building(Robert truly believes it did hit), on a lower floor or a higher floor, and he fails to clarify what was obscuring his view of the impact.
Many of us were asking Lyte for months when the Pentacon would be released s o we could clarify just what Lyte was talking about and when he FINNALLY did, it was laughable the way he had been twisting and paraphraseing what his interviewees had said.
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