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Anyone interested in debunking Pandora's Box Chapter Two?

I still don't understand why the "conspirators" would plant a fake FDR that contradicts the official story.
 
Miragememories said:
Nice link!

You've raised a great point. If professional pilots can't do it...need I say anymore?

Come on folks.

Cut your losses. Put your egos aside and embrace reality.

MM
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Have all your bruises healed?

Do you think you might someday be right about something?

Admittedly, that was a funny one about putting egos aside and embracing reality.

If conspiracy liars were smart enough to understand the concept of irony, well, you get the idea...
 
MarkyX said:
Really?

http://video.google.ca/videoplay?docid=-129851858930592160&q=dutch+documentary+9/11

28 minute mark, amateur pilot hits the Pentagon 3 times out of 3.
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Yes but the crux of the original post was hitting WTC 1 and WTC 2 with a simulator that professional pilots couldn't do in 10 out of 10 attempts, UNLESS they used speeds close to landing speed. NIST needed extreme speeds to make their model work. Think about it!!

A simulator by the way that is so good that once trained on it you can go to a real plane with real passengers!


MM
 
pomeroo said:
Have all your bruises healed?

Do you think you might someday be right about something?

Admittedly, that was a funny one about putting egos aside and embracing reality.

If conspiracy liars were smart enough to understand the concept of irony, well, you get the idea...
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ahh "Castle Dracula"...yes tell me about fantasy.

No bruises here.


MM
 
Yes but the crux of the original post was hitting WTC 1 and WTC 2 with a simulator that professional pilots couldn't do in 10 out of 10 attempts, UNLESS they used speeds close to landing speed. NIST needed extreme speeds to make their model work. Think about it!!
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Video evidence says otherwise. Besides, are you suggesting the pilots for 9/11 truth are no-planers now?
 
Miragememories said:
Yes but the crux of the original post was hitting WTC 1 and WTC 2 with a simulator that professional pilots couldn't do in 10 out of 10 attempts, UNLESS they used speeds close to landing speed. NIST needed extreme speeds to make their model work. Think about it!!

A simulator by the way that is so good that once trained on it you can go to a real plane with real passengers!
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It doesn’t seem likely that both of the following claims can be true:

  • An amateur pilot managed to hit the Pentagon three times out of three.
  • Professional pilots were unable to hit the World Trade Centre towers.

Given that we have video evidence supporting the truth of the first claim, shouldn’t we simply assume that second is untrue?

(The question is far from entirely rhetorical, nor is it directed solely at Miragememories, by the way.)
 
Par said:
It doesn’t seem likely that both of the following claims can be true:

  • An amateur pilot managed to hit the Pentagon three times out of three.
  • Professional pilots were unable to hit the World Trade Centre towers.

Given that we have video evidence supporting the truth of the first claim, shouldn’t we simply assume that second is untrue?

(The question is far from entirely rhetorical, nor is it directed solely at Miragememories, by the way.)
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Have you watched the video?
 
Another bloody 'truther' video.

Jeez

All these videos and still no one cares

I predict the 'truthers' will declare victory when Bush dies of old age
 
Whatever happened to the pentacon researchers edition? Anyone know?

That's my favourite example of 'truther' mentality:

We'll gather together a mass of evidence, with countless interviews with people who support our beliefs, then we'll edit it down to a user friendly version and put that on the internet.

Only the big one, the 'researchers edition' doesn't exist. We have to continue to work on it.

We have to edit to try to counter the debunking of our smoking gun version.

Oh and we have a hollywood chick lined up to do the voice over but we can't afford her until we have sold some 'smoking gun' dvds....and no one is buying.

So now we have the mythical 'pilots for truth'. The fantasists who think they have the rosetta stone which will decode the fdr and prove that the fdr claimed to be from the plane which crashed into the pentagon and is presented in support of that claim, doesn't actually show the plane crashing into the pentagon.

As ever, 'truthers' project on to others what they themselves are thinking.

Truther: The evil govt wants to round up the citizenry and put them in camps
Truther: I really want to round people up and put them in camps

Truther: The government planted faked data which contradicts their case, because they're stupid
Truther: I believe in a conspiracy so full of contradictions I feel stupid
 
I haven't looked at the video, but it should be pointed out that the difficulty of hitting the target - towers or Pentagon - depends critically on the approach. If the approach is started too close, and isn't lined up with the target, it'll be near impossible to hit it. On the other hand, the farther away you start your approach, the easier it'll be to hit. (Based on my fiddling with flight simulators; I'm not a pilot, myself.)

We also know that one of the aircraft had to bank quite a bit, and even then hit in a corner, so he wasn't perfectly lined up.
 
GregoryUrich said:
Have you watched the video?
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I haven't, but that's because I have a standing rule stating that I do not visit CT sites. The studity typically on display at such sites causes my brain to scream in protest after only a few moments of exposure.

However, if anyone would like to list the points made by this video, I'd be happy to discuss them.
 
I nailed the Empire State Building (no WTC in post 2001 versions of Flight Sim) 5 out of 5 times at ~500 kts in Flight Sim 2004.

By the way, I hardly think that an organization that puts people who think that Stargate SG-1 is real on a pedestal is in any position to be telling people what's true or not.
 
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