I'm seriously freaked out.

[knot]

Yes, I did have my tires slashed by some idiot at one time. The whole neighborhood had their tires slashed. Rather than the Punisher how about the Boondock Saints!!!!!

 

[politas]

Shannon made it safe to Idaho today. There was apparently hardly any traffic on the road at all, and she seemed to enjoy her trip. I am very relieved that she made it safe. I'm not going to totally breathe easy though, because she still has a trip to make home on Sunday, and then the following weekend she will be driving to a city approx. 160 miles away for the weekend. After that, the two weeks will be over and I will be able to happily stick my foot in my mouth.

I guess I can't say that I'm a total disbeliever. You're right, Joe. I eat up any ghost story fed to me. I seem think that coincidences and weird things that happen (they seem to happen to me a lot) are part of some twisted, supernatural plot against me. I guess 'paranoid' is the right word to describe me. I've been extremely unhappy living this way, and when this 'prophecy' or whatever you want to call it doesn't come true, I think it's going to help me a lot to think more realistically about these claims when they are made.

If you want to believe that dreams have power, consider this:

You can quite easily have a dream about things that never happened, which your conscious mind will think is a memory of the past.

I have a quite clear memory from my childhood of a wardrobe filled with identical stuffed animals. The wardrobe (and the stuffed animals) never existed. (Well, one stuffed animal like the ones in the dream did exist, but I got it years after the time that the memory says I had the wardrobe filed with them.

What happened was: I had a dream which did't fit reality. My brain, trying to reconcile this image, placed it in a hazy section of history.

Your friend Sarah, on hearing of her friends' deaths, might have had a similar false correlation happen in her mind, assigning an identity to a previously anonymous dream death, or she might have dreamed afterwards of remembering a dream upon hearing about the death, and have that dream replace the actual memory.

Our minds are not very good at distinguishing dream from reality.

 

[osmosis]

I will tell a potential tire slasher/property destroyer (criminal) exactly what I think.

Good for you. At least we know you're not just pretending.

I think some of us know what the spaces imply so stop pretending to be i-n-n-o-c-e-n-t:

What the "spaces" imply? Now you've lost me. I suspect, however, that whatever you've inferred has more to do with your own state of mind than with anything I've supposedly implied.

 

[knot]

Good for you. At least we know you're not just pretending.



What the "spaces" imply? Now you've lost me. I suspect, however, that whatever you've inferred has more to do with your own state of mind than with anything I've supposedly implied.

Riiiiiiiiight! don't insult my intelligence. Shall we go through your posts and see how many times you've posted as such? (below)

Maybe


You

Need

A

Shrink


Too!


-Edit - could not find any. Care to explain? Never mind, I already know


But found this. What's this, name calling? tsk tsk

Jerk.

kthanksbye

 

[The Atheist]

One quick point here. Why is someone getting worried about being mean-spirited to a troll?

We're not talking about some thinking, feeling person. This is clearly a troll, check its other threads before you start beating each other up. The guy who thinks the troll is sincere is just a little misguided and trying to be a nice guy/ette.

There are plenty of things worth fighting about. A troll isn't one of them.

 

[knot]

One quick point here. Why is someone getting worried about being mean-spirited to a troll?

We're not talking about some thinking, feeling person. This is clearly a troll, check its other threads before you start beating each other up. The guy who thinks the troll is sincere is just a little misguided and trying to be a nice guy/ette.

There are plenty of things worth fighting about. A troll isn't one of them.

I'm not worried. It's just that you're the first person to back me up among some that want to wear kid gloves. Like I said, I'm not pretending. I don't tolerate the consideration of slashing tires well at all. In my book a person is a complete idiot for that.

LMAO, he said, "it"

 

[osmosis]

Riiiiiiiiight! don't insult my intelligence.

Did it ever occur to you that some people DO need professional help, and that suggesting they get it isn't a gratuitous insult?

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, we're talking about someone who has delusions, panic attacks and obsessive-compulsive disorder. In my book, that's more than enough reason to start seeing a psychiatrist.

I don't believe I insulted your so-called intelligence.

 

[osmosis]

One quick point here. Why is someone getting worried about being mean-spirited to a troll?

I disagree. He's not a troll he's just very, very disturbed.

 

[knot]

Did it ever occur to you that some people DO need professional help, and that suggesting they get it isn't a gratuitous insult?

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, we're talking about someone who has delusions, panic attacks and obsessive-compulsive disorder. In my book, that's more than enough reason to start seeing a psychiatrist.

I don't believe I insulted your so-called intelligence.

Don't

Mistake

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A

Fool

I know better. This form of post is condescending. Don't lie. kthanksbye

 

[JP1283]

Knot, I think you're being a little dramatic yourself by calling me a criminal just for even having the thought of slashing her tires. Have you ever thought about doing something bad? Does that make you a criminal? I think not.

By the way, your posts come across as having come from a fifteen-year-old girl.

The Atheist, I'm not a troll. I don't know how many times I can say that. But I'm not going to try to get that point across anymore. I will say it just once more...I'm not a troll. You may have your own opinions about the events I have been through, but my posts are not meant to prove anything one way or the other or to spam this board. I've tried to be sincere, and I'm sorry that there are posters here who believe I have some sort of agenda.

 

[knot]

buh bye drama queen

 

[osmosis]

Don't

Mistake

Me

For

A

Fool

I know better. This form of post is condescending. Don't lie. kthanksbye

Did it ever occur to you, oh great and highly intelligent one, that that's only one of several possible interpretations?

 

[skeptifem]

uh huh, go ahead and stick up for the criminal minded drama queen. It's never ok to even consider slashing/destroying someone's property (asinine)

I think its ok, because its obvious the thought came about out of concern for the safety of another person. and nothing criminal actually happened. i dont understand why you are so angry.

You're right though, when it comes to some thought inducing criminal behavior or consideration, a "snarky" remark isn't strong enough.

I'll admit that I have stolen the keys of people who have been extremely drunk and were still planning to drive home. I gave them back, but it was still stealing, and i did it out of concern. flame away i guess!

 

[stormer]

Why would I post that Shannon died on her trip if it wasn't true? I don't know how many times I can I say I'm not here to prove anything; I'm not rying to prove that Shannon is psychic; it's not my agenda at all. I posted because I thought maybe I get some help with this irrational fear of her dying in a car accident, not so I could say "I told you so."

..snip

I thought Sara was the one with psychic dreams?

 

[Oualawouzou]

Knot, I think you're being a little dramatic yourself by calling me a criminal just for even having the thought of slashing her tires. Have you ever thought about doing something bad? Does that make you a criminal? I think not.

Shhh! Not so loud! You don't want Dustin to hear you...

 

[Ryan O'Dine]

I think it’s a legitimate to ask how one is to distinguish a common troll from a psychologically disturbed person.

Sometimes trolling is pretty obvious (like the Pakistani homeopathy spammers of yore). Sometimes, not so much. It seems to me that when confronted with that vast grey area of uncertainly, the most reasonable procedure is to assume genuine psychological problems. The worst you’ll get is to look like a fool in the face of a troll. So what? The worst you get by assuming the opposite is to look real “cool” while ragging on someone with serious psychological issues. Personally, I'd rather risk looking a fool than actually being one.

So here’s my advice to JP1283:

You’ve mentioned specific psychological problems (OCD, etc.). You’ve mentioned you have a therapist. Considering the consistency of your posting on these boards expressing fear, it’s pretty clear your therapist isn’t doing right by you.

Sometimes a person has to take the responsibility of their medical treatment into their own hands. For instance, if a therapist isn’t helping, you have to insist they change tactics. You don’t have to be confrontative, but you do have to stick to your guns. People in the medical field often “anchor” themselves to a diagnosis or way of proceeding, and make other cognitive errors that need to be corrected. At these times, it’s up to the patient to be their own best advocate. You need to ask the therapist questions like “Are there other options for me,” and, “If this doesn’t work, what’s the next step,” and, “How is my progress being monitored.” Most of all, you have to tell them truthfully if you think you aren’t being served well by current practice. The medical field is full of intimidating people with impressive degrees, but ultimately it’s up to the patient to ensure they’re being led down the right track.

Skepticism can only get you so far. It doesn’t cure faulty brain chemistry. The drumbeat of this thread should be “lean on your therapist to make a difference.” Clearly they need to be pressed to do better. Unfortunately, it’s entirely up to you to do the pressing. Fortunately, when a patient stands up for themselves, they often get results.

 

[Steven Howard]

I thought Sara was the one with psychic dreams?

Sara had the dreams, Shannon just had the "feeling" that she might die in a car wreck. Shannon was also the name of the friend who used telepathy to cheat at Trivial Pursuit, in an earlier thread.

I still don't know if JP is messing with us, or if JP's "friends" are messing with him.

 

[thaiboxerken]

I thought Sara was the one with psychic dreams?

He must've gotten the notes mixed up on his story.

 

[Senex]

Originally Posted by The Atheist
One quick point here. Why is someone getting worried about being mean-spirited to a troll?

We're not talking about some thinking, feeling person. This is clearly a troll, check its other threads before you start beating each other up. The guy who thinks the troll is sincere is just a little misguided and trying to be a nice guy/ette.

There are plenty of things worth fighting about. A troll isn't one of them.

I'm not worried. It's just that you're the first person to back me up among some that want to wear kid gloves. Like I said, I'm not pretending. I don't tolerate the consideration of slashing tires well at all. In my book a person is a complete idiot for that.

LMAO, he said, "it"

I'm not LMAO, but I'm certain The Atheist was being sarcastic. Being nice is what I believe you should default to when in doubt. Maybe JP is a guy and I'm clueless (I'm often clueless). I love a good argument as much as the next person but I believe in civility.

 

[thaiboxerken]

Nice guys finish last. People like JP need to be punished into thinking rationally. Where's my asp?