*split* Lyte's proof that the Lloyd England's experience is false

Its still there Jack Tripper.
Funny that you would complain about the mods when you whine to the JREF mods more then anyone and come from the LCF where thread disappearing is a minute by minute occurence.


Bobert, stop with the personal attacks. Attack the argument and not the person, and keep in mind that the CT forum is under a stricter interpretation of the membership agreement at this time. I will view any violations going forward from today (this post was done late last night) as a deliberate decision on your part to ignore this warning.
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Regnad Kcin said:
Who said you did? Not I.

What makes you think the light pole was resting solely on the dashboard?
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Since of course that is the forward most fulcrum point possible before the hood there really isn't any other option unless you move the fulcrum even FURTHER towards the light end.
 
Lyte Trip said:
I didn't start this thread.

So what about this statement do you disagree with?
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Here is what happened:

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(courtesy: -Raven- @ LCF)

If you notice Llyods picture, he does not fully draw the light pole only the first couple of feet out of the window. Again you keep grasping at straws to support your impossible and unimaginable account.

EDIT: In fact if you take Lloyd's picture and flip is horizontally, you can see it more clearly.
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Lyte:

I dont want to break the rules by hotlinking...so

doubleyoudoubleyoudoubleyou.craftmarketcorner.co.uk/images/ESS-AV003-200x200.jpg

The link is the Egyptian God of Fertility.

TAM:)
 
Lyte Trip said:
I didn't start this thread.

So what about this statement do you disagree with?
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The heavier end of a see-saw will always be on the ground unless the fulcrum is not in the center but CLOSER to the heavy end like this:
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The part where you focus solely on the "weight", and ignore other possible torques applied to the lighter end to counteract the weight of the heavier end - such as would be produced by the pole being jammed tightly against the seats of the taxi. You'd essentially have the pole coupled to the entire weight of the car.
 
I have been following this argument for a good 6 months now, and I am still baffled at the logic. OK, let's assume for a minute that Lloyd England is a New World Order plant. How the hell did they manage to get him to drive by in rush hour traffic and have his cab perfectly located to be hit by a freaking lightpole? Or was every cabbie in DC bought off, and they just figured they would only need to use one of them?
 
Horatius said:
The part where you focus solely on the "weight", and ignore other possible torques applied to the lighter end to counteract the weight of the heavier end - such as would be produced by the pole being jammed tightly against the seats of the taxi. You'd essentially have the pole coupled to the entire weight of the car.
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First of all this isn't very plausible because a significant amount of the top of the pole would have to be lodged through the frame of the car behind the back seat in order for this to work.

I suppose it's hypothetically possible. But it's not possible in reality when you consider the facts.

The top of the pole was curved like this:

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So pretty much the entire curve would have to be lodged in the car for your scenario to work.

But let's suggest for a moment that it was.

Did you even listen to Lloyd's account?

He says he personally REMOVED the pole with help from a silent stranger but that he FELL DOWN in the process of removing it because he didn't know the top end was curved.

He made no mention of it being difficult to remove because it was lodged in the car.

And here is Lloyd on the street with the pole removed already. But look at the roof line of the Pentagon:

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It's still intact!

The roof collapsed at 9:57 so in less than 19 minutes after a major catastrophe of these proportions after he barely escaped death we're supposed to believe that Lloyd figured he'd better hurry up and try removing the pole himself!

Even if it wasn't a major world wide catastrophe would ANY ONE OF YOU attempt to remove a big long heavy light pole that was lodged in your car within minutes after a major accident?

Wouldn't you just wait for the police and let them deal with it?

I met Lloyd. He is a small rather frail old man. Even with help I can't imagine him removing that pole in ANY circumstances.

Plus imagine how hard it would be to remove a pole that was lodged in the frame of the car so much that the light top end supported the heavy long base end being suspended in mid-air over the hood!

AND the hood was never even scratched as he removed the pole and while he fell down doing it!


Will at least ONE of you put your critical thinking caps on for a moment and admit how absurd this all is?
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T.A.M. said:
Lyte:

I dont want to break the rules by hotlinking...so

doubleyoudoubleyoudoubleyou.craftmarketcorner.co.uk/images/ESS-AV003-200x200.jpg

The link is the Egyptian God of Fertility.

TAM:)
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Dude.

What are you doing?

Stop it please.

I thought you said you were putting me on ignore.

Keep your phallic fantasies to yourself.
 
Is that Lloyd the poor man that you humilated and ridiculed to make a buck?
 
So.. What is a lampost that spears a window supposed to do?

I'll repeat Lyte, have you told Mr England your findings? I'm sure he would love to know!
 
Lyte Trip said:
Such a claim could only laughed at by the ignorant who prefer to obfuscate and ridicule the facts in an obvious attempt to avoid the truth.
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Let me ask you this then. How many physics professors have you brought this damming evidence to. Do they agree with you?
 
Lyte Trip said:
Nevertheless there is obvious and serious damage to the exterior of the vehicle that hit the deer while the exterior of Lloyd's car remained in perfect condition without so much as a single scratch!
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Except for being traumitised for the rest of his life... honestly, how do you sleep at night?
 
I've just listened to your pre-interview... how dare you be like this to such a broken man? You are just hounding him, hounding him. Are you the police? I'm glad to say, I can tell lloyd things you are a complete tool.
 
Lyte Trip said:
First of all this isn't very plausible because a significant amount of the top of the pole would have to be lodged through the frame of the car behind the back seat in order for this to work.

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So pretty much the entire curve would have to be lodged in the car for your scenario to work.
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These are purely assuptions on your part. Do a bit of math, to show why it has to be "lodged through the frame" to support the weight. You can do math, right?

Otherwise, I see no reason to think it has to be lodged as you suggest. Being pressed against the back of the seat should provide a significant torque all by itself.

Lyte Trip said:
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Even if it wasn't a major world wide catastrophe would ANY ONE OF YOU attempt to remove a big long heavy light pole that was lodged in your car within minutes after a major accident?

Wouldn't you just wait for the police and let them deal with it?
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Argument from lazyness. I saw a fellow do pretty much the same thing after an accident, because the pole was blocking the road, and he didn't want to hold up traffic. And this wasn't even on a highway, in rush hour, of a large city.



Lyte Trip said:
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Will at least ONE of you put your critical thinking caps on for a moment and admit how absurd this all is?
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I'll do that when you apply the same rule to your "theories". Deal?
 
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