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Boortz Blames VMT Victims

Besides, there is a darn good reason why, even if it happened the way Boortz claims, that it would.

Very possibly the students were waiting for the police or SWAT team to take the guy out. They don't know how long away help is. The cops could come busting through the door ten seconds after they get killed rushing the guy, which would save everyone AND you. How do you make that risk assessment under those conditions?

Sorry, John McClain is only in the movies. Ours is not a society of vigilantiism.

Note that on 9/11, it took some serious reassurances that there was no alternative before those on flight 93 took control, and only then they apparently had to have a vote on whether they should do something. These are people who had no alternative, and had time to reason it out. They weren't watching people die at the same time.

I've said before, there is the statement that before you judge you should walk a mile in their shoes. In this case, you don't even know what kind of shoes they are, much less have the ability to try them on. I can't imagine what I would do in that situation, and I don't want to try. I certainly am not judge anything that anyone else does.
 
Kerberos said:
That's a load of BS no better than what Corp is spewing. It is in no sense of the word blaming the victim to think that people will be more disposed to defend themselves if they have better means for it.
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And yet the people who argue this say that guns don't make people more apt to kill someone because they give them better odds of doing it.

So the arguement is that they only promote social acceptable violence.
 
pgwenthold said:
Besides, there is a darn good reason why, even if it happened the way Boortz claims, that it would.

Very possibly the students were waiting for the police or SWAT team to take the guy out. They don't know how long away help is. The cops could come busting through the door ten seconds after they get killed rushing the guy, which would save everyone AND you. How do you make that risk assessment under those conditions?

Sorry, John McClain is only in the movies. Ours is not a society of vigilantiism.
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But it could be. And some people do advocate that.
 
pgwenthold said:
Sorry, John McClain is only in the movies. Ours is not a society of vigilantiism.
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It all depends on who has the gun pointed at them. There was a school shooting in a high school where a student wrestled and subdued the shooter not long ago.

Of course afterwards, there weren't long whiny op-eds about the masculinization of the culture based on one anecdotal piece of evidence.
 
corplinx said:
It all depends on who has the gun pointed at them. There was a school shooting in a high school where a student wrestled and subdued the shooter not long ago.

Of course afterwards, there weren't long whiny op-eds about the masculinization of the culture based on one anecdotal piece of evidence.
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Because that was an effective outcome, if he had been killed for getting involved, the results would have been different.
 
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