10 story hole in WTC 7

[Christopher7]

You say that with remarkable certainty.

Do you know of a qualified person of group that disagrees?

Yes. The building collapsed after it was hit by massive debris that set it on fire.

OT'ers have been implying that the massive debris damage to the south west part of WTC 7 caused or played a role in the collapse.
There is NOTHING to support that contention.

 

[Belz...]

There is no evidence of the hole between floor 15 and 26 or floor 10 and the ground.
Hayden: "...it took a while for that fire to develop."
How could he not notice and mention a 47 story hole?

You mean you DIDN'T see that thick column of smoke ?

You've got that backwards.

Really ?

You keep saying 'contra' other people's expertise.

I'm sorry if you don't know what that word means.

NIST specifically ruled out the damage to the south west part of WTC 7 as the cause of the initiating event.
Nowhere did they say it contributed to the collapse.

Then pray tell, what is the cause of the initiating event ? Fire ? What caused the fire ?

I have put it in simple terms so that people who don't know framing can understand.

Yes, I'm sure those carpenters at the WTC understood.

 

[Belz...]

OT'ers have been implying that the massive debris damage to the south west part of WTC 7 caused or played a role in the collapse.
There is NOTHING to support that contention.

Funny. This is like finding a stabbing victim, then finding a photograph of, say, Eddie Murphy, with a knife, stalking the victim, but since we didn't see that actual stabbing, there is NOTHING to support the contention that Eddie did it.

Again, I think you're simplifying the whole deal.

I have put it in simple terms so that people who don't know framing can understand.

I didn't say you were speaking with small words. I said you were simplifying the event.

I thought you said we were better than the experts ?

No

Well, you said YOU did.

 

[TruthSeeker1234]

Consider this composite made by Andrew Lowe Watson. It appears to show (yet another) cylindrical vertical cutout from a building on 9/11. What is the official line on this? Falling debris from WTC1 did it? Do you guys honestly believe that?

 

[Arus808]

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l131/Ignatz_CT/wtc7damagecomposite.jpg


Consider this composite made by Andrew Lowe Watson. It appears to show (yet another) cylindrical vertical cutout from a building on 9/11. What is the official line on this? Falling debris from WTC1 did it? Do you guys honestly believe that?

what cylindrical vertical cut out/ can you point it out?

 

[Belz...]

Consider this composite made by Andrew Lowe Watson. It appears to show (yet another) cylindrical vertical cutout from a building on 9/11. What is the official line on this? Falling debris from WTC1 did it? Do you guys honestly believe that?

Why not ? Are you mounting an argument from incredulity ?

And how do you know it's symmetrical ?

 

[FactCheck]

Do you know of a qualified person of group that disagrees?

OT'ers have been implying that the massive debris damage to the south west part of WTC 7 caused or played a role in the collapse.
There is NOTHING to support that contention.

HAHAHA!!!

 

[TruthSeeker1234]

Can i point it out ???

Pull the other one!

Look at the top of the building. There are two gouges that appear semi-cylindrical. Then look directly below that. There is a black gash that runs straight down the building. No, I'm not being incredulous. I'm asking you OCTs what you think this is, and to state whether or not you honestly think that such a thing could arise due to debris impact.

 

[Arkan_Wolfshade]

Can i point it out ???

Pull the other one!

Look at the top of the building. There are two gouges that appear semi-cylindrical. Then look directly below that. There is a black gash that runs straight down the building. No, I'm not being incredulous. I'm asking you OCTs what you think this is, and to state whether or not you honestly think that such a thing could arise due to debris impact.

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l131/Ignatz_CT/wtc7damagecomposite.jpg

Use the search function. There was a large thread w/in the few weeks that discussed the new footage, the composite image, etc.

 

[Christopher7]

You mean you DIDN'T see that thick column of smoke ?

I cannot see thru that column of smoke.
Neither can you.

I'm sorry if you don't know what that word means.

You said my claim that
the damage to the south west face did not play a roll in the initiating event
was contra [opposite] other peoples expertise.
This is not true.
Apparently, you are the one who doesn't know contra from consistent.

Then pray tell, what is the cause of the initiating event ? Fire ? What caused the fire ?

You are trying to say that the debris damage caused the fires and the fires caused the initiating event, therefore the debris damage played a roll in the initiating event.
No, that's just word spin.

The debris damage to the south west part of WTC 7 did NOT contribute to the initiating event.

 

[Christopher7]

Funny. This is like finding a stabbing victim, then finding a photograph of, say, Eddie Murphy, with a knife, stalking the victim, but since we didn't see that actual stabbing, there is NOTHING to support the contention that Eddie did it.

Oh spinner of silly similes,
There is NOTHING to support the contention that debris damage to the south west side of WTC 7 contributed to the initiating event.

Well, you said YOU did.

Where?

 

[Christopher7]

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l131/Ignatz_CT/wtc7damagecomposite.jpg

HAHAHA!!!

How childish is that?

NIST said:

"Analysis of the global structure indicates that the structure redistributed loads around the severed and damaged areas."

The amount of damage will not change this analysis the result.

 

[Pardalis]

Almost fifty pages...

 

[boloboffin]

Could I make an announcement about my lastest WTC 7 video in here?



Thank you for your support.

Please, make any comments about it in my "Debunking Videos" thread. Gracias!

 

[Christopher7]

Could I make an announcement about my lastest WTC 7 video in here?

WTC 7 was NOT leaning.
Compare to edge of Vorizon building on left.

 

[Belz...]

Look at the top of the building. There are two gouges that appear semi-cylindrical.

You're imagining things, Seeker. They appear vertical, but only such an astute observer as you could spot something on a picture that no one else can see.

Then look directly below that. There is a black gash that runs straight down the building.

Yes, and I have no idea what shapes it has when looked from above.

No, I'm not being incredulous. I'm asking you OCTs what you think this is, and to state whether or not you honestly think that such a thing could arise due to debris impact.

Why not ? Do you know how massive some of those 1 WTC chunks were ? They had just fallen 50 stories.

 

[Belz...]

I cannot see thru that column of smoke.
Neither can you.

Precisely my point.

You said my claim that
the damage to the south west face did not play a roll in the initiating event
was contra [opposite] other peoples expertise.
This is not true.
Apparently, you are the one who doesn't know contra from consistent.

Oh, so you think I DIDN'T mean it when I said "contra" ? Sorry to dissapoint.

You are trying to say that the debris damage caused the fires and the fires caused the initiating event, therefore the debris damage played a roll in the initiating event.
No, that's just word spin.

No, it's not. You said it had NOTHING to do with the initiating event. If that's not what you said, what do you mean by "contribute" ?

Do you or do you not agree with debris->fire->collapse ?

 

[Belz...]

Oh spinner of silly similes,
There is NOTHING to support the contention that debris damage to the south west side of WTC 7 contributed to the initiating event.

Exactly. Eddie Murphy didn't stab that victim.

Where?

You said you knew better than those on the scene. Arguably, firefighters know what they're talking about when it involves building fires.

WTC 7 was NOT leaning.
Compare to edge of Vorizon building on left.

Ah, yes, I'm sure you can tell on that picture.

 

[FactCheck]

WTC 7 was NOT leaning.
Compare to edge of Vorizon building on left.

[qimg]http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9955/sw4ds3.jpg[/qimg]

More one dimentional thinking. THIS photo shows the building wasn't leaning on [this] side of the building and at [this] time during the event therefore the building NEVER leaned on ANY side and at ANY time...

Zero critical thinking skills...

What about during the collapse? It's OBVIOUSLY leaning to the south. More than one firemen said the building was leaning. They put a transit on the building and knew it was leaning. Does the fire department put transits on ALL buildings just for the hell of it? Or did they put a transit on the building because they saw it leaning? Do they put transits on buildings without knowing how to use them?

You have nothing.

 

[Belz...]

Zero critical thinking skills...

Judging from that picture, which I've never seen before, it seems as though we can't see our vaunted 47-floor hole.

Or am I suddenly blind ?