432 shows harmony of Sun, Moon, Earth Design

[Hokulele]

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In contrast, I provided you with a demonstration of how hard it is to attribute meaning even where it belongs, when nobody wants to see it there.

And how hard it is to attribute meaning where it doesn't belong. By choosing one photograph of one artifact out of 1500, one unit system out of dozens (especially one that did not exist at the time), and forcing the math to match your conclusions, you are not advancing your cause one bit.

The basis for my claims is rooted in the physical. There is nothing unscientific in trying to observe physical realities in graphic design.
"Coincidence abounds' didn't you say this about the Frame?
Yes, coincidence abounds, pages and pages of it, abounding to the point of making complete sense. It crystallizes into complete ideas and becomes a pamphlet.
Unfortunately, instead of being grateful that I provided something anomalously rich in coincidence, you seem afraid of facing it, of saying, yes, Jiri has brought our attention to something that should be investigated.

Forced unit selection, arbitrary selection of lines and arcs, and cherry-picking of images is not a coincidence. It is contrivance.

 

[Oualawouzou]

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In contrast, I provided you with a demonstration of how hard it is to attribute meaning even where it belongs, when nobody wants to see it there.

Uh... could you elaborate? Religionstudent gave an example of how about any picture can be measured, and Mysterious Relationships (TM) be found between these measures. For your picture to be different, you'd have to demonstrate it is a Significant Picture... Unfortunately, from what I've managed to retain from this awfully long thread is that the picture gets its significance from its measures... Bit of a circular reasoning.

 

[ReligionStudent]

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In contrast, I provided you with a demonstration of how hard it is to attribute meaning even where it belongs, when nobody wants to see it there.



The basis for my claims is rooted in the physical. There is nothing unscientific in trying to observe physical realities in graphic design.
"Coincidence abounds' didn't you say this about the Frame?
Yes, coincidence abounds, pages and pages of it, abounding to the point of making complete sense. It crystallizes into complete ideas and becomes a pamphlet.
Unfortunately, instead of being grateful that I provided something anomalously rich in coincidence, you seem afraid of facing it, of saying, yes, Jiri has brought our attention to something that should be investigated.

Do you have any scholarly references that support your claims? Publications in refereed journals, even web pages by recognized authorities would be helpful.

What claims specifically? There is a rich body of anomalies out there, and claims based on those anomalies, some of which I find plausible. Christopher Dunn: ADVANCED MACHINING IN ANCIENT EGYPT would be one.

BTW, did I dispel any of your misconceptions about Golden Ratio misconceptions as presented by the weasley Mr. Markowsky?

Christopher Dunn's work is unsupported and his book is not peer reviewed. If you want ancient Egypt try reading sombody like Trigger instead of someone who posts a newagy website

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Its nice to see all you birds of the same feather getting along when you speak the same thing and follow the same party lines and obey what you have been taught to obey.

Anyway, let's get back to 432 and its truth HARMONICALLY.

This research you absolutely refuse to do because it shows design.... and the majority of you hate design, you prefer chaos.

 

[ReligionStudent]

Its nice to see all you birds of the same feather getting along when you speak the same thing and follow the same party lines and obey what you have been taught to obey.

Anyway, let's get back to 432 and its truth HARMONICALLY.

This research you absolutely refuse to do because it shows design.... and the majority of you hate design, you prefer chaos.

We are not necessarily oppose to design. We see it for humans (also some primates and birds).

 

[Paul]

Christopher Dunn: ADVANCED MACHINING IN ANCIENT EGYPT would be one.

Amazon.co.uk Review
Suspicion naturally arises when one reads a promo line on a back cover that says, "This is the most important book concerning the Great Pyramid written in the last 20 years". In this case, however, it may be fact. In writing The Giza Power Plant, mechanical engineer Christopher Dunn reverse-engineered the Great Pyramid at Giza to discover its use. His startling conclusions blow the heck out of traditional Eygptology's rather silly notions that it was built with copper tools by a society that lacked the wheel. While revisionist pyramid studies are rife with ridiculous theories that give the topic a bad name, The Giza Power Plant takes into account existing fact and artefact without having to rely on unprovable assertion to work. A must-read for truth seekers who aren't afraid to think outside the box and are willing to consider the idea that Western culture of the 21st century may not be the pinnacle of human evolution and achievement. --P Randall Cohan
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Synopsis
The fruit of over two decades of research, this text argues that the Great Pyramid was a source of harmonic resonance that converted the Earth's vibrational energies to electricity. Did this technology of harmonic resonance provide the ancient world with endless supplies of energy, and was this the same energy discovered by Nicholas Tesla?
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[ReligionStudent]

Amazon.co.uk Review
Suspicion naturally arises when one reads a promo line on a back cover that says, "This is the most important book concerning the Great Pyramid written in the last 20 years". In this case, however, it may be fact. In writing The Giza Power Plant, mechanical engineer Christopher Dunn reverse-engineered the Great Pyramid at Giza to discover its use. His startling conclusions blow the heck out of traditional Eygptology's rather silly notions that it was built with copper tools by a society that lacked the wheel. While revisionist pyramid studies are rife with ridiculous theories that give the topic a bad name, The Giza Power Plant takes into account existing fact and artefact without having to rely on unprovable assertion to work. A must-read for truth seekers who aren't afraid to think outside the box and are willing to consider the idea that Western culture of the 21st century may not be the pinnacle of human evolution and achievement. --P Randall Cohan
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Synopsis
The fruit of over two decades of research, this text argues that the Great Pyramid was a source of harmonic resonance that converted the Earth's vibrational energies to electricity. Did this technology of harmonic resonance provide the ancient world with endless supplies of energy, and was this the same energy discovered by Nicholas Tesla?
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Wow I am so converted by that obviously well researched piece of work. Now if only it would jive with Dan Brown I would be all set.

 

[bruto]

Amazon.co.uk Review
Suspicion naturally arises when one reads a promo line on a back cover that says, "This is the most important book concerning the Great Pyramid written in the last 20 years". In this case, however, it may be fact. In writing The Giza Power Plant, mechanical engineer Christopher Dunn reverse-engineered the Great Pyramid at Giza to discover its use. His startling conclusions blow the heck out of traditional Eygptology's rather silly notions that it was built with copper tools by a society that lacked the wheel. While revisionist pyramid studies are rife with ridiculous theories that give the topic a bad name, The Giza Power Plant takes into account existing fact and artefact without having to rely on unprovable assertion to work. A must-read for truth seekers who aren't afraid to think outside the box and are willing to consider the idea that Western culture of the 21st century may not be the pinnacle of human evolution and achievement. --P Randall Cohan
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Synopsis
The fruit of over two decades of research, this text argues that the Great Pyramid was a source of harmonic resonance that converted the Earth's vibrational energies to electricity. Did this technology of harmonic resonance provide the ancient world with endless supplies of energy, and was this the same energy discovered by Nicholas Tesla?
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Oh yeah. So, here we are in an energy crisis, and since this theory does not rely on unprovable assertion that must mean that there are pyramid power projects under development as we speak, right? I mean, these days it wouldn't be so hard to make another great pyramid, and get all that lovely harmonic resonance. Yessiree! I'm sure it's just another one of those damn government conspiracies orchestrated by big oil and Halliburton that's keeping pyramid energy off the grid.

 

[jimbob]

Synopsis
The fruit of over two decades of research, this text argues that the Great Pyramid was a source of harmonic resonance that converted the Earth's vibrational energies to electricity. Did this technology of harmonic resonance provide the ancient world with endless supplies of energy, and was this the same energy discovered by Nicholas Tesla?

No.

 

[Jiri]

Christopher Dunn's work is unsupported and his book is not peer reviewed. If you want ancient Egypt try reading sombody like Trigger instead of someone who posts a newagy website

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Chris Dunn's work on machining in ancient Egypt is supported by the facts he makes obvious. As far as I know, his work is unopposed.
It is a different story with Dunn's Great Pyramid as a power plant. Because this is hard to support, doesn't mean that his empirical research is not valid. Some Egyptians had used lathes, and ultrasound is the only complete explanation for the drilling phenomena in question.

 

[Paul]

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Chris Dunn's work on machining in ancient Egypt is supported by the facts he makes obvious. As far as I know, his work is unopposed.
It is a different story with Dunn's Great Pyramid as a power plant. Because this is hard to support, doesn't mean that his empirical research is not valid.

According to the author's own website "For the full text and context of Advanced Machining in Ancient Egypt Read The Giza Power Plant: Technologies of Ancient Egypt."

 

[bruto]

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Chris Dunn's work on machining in ancient Egypt is supported by the facts he makes obvious. As far as I know, his work is unopposed.
It is a different story with Dunn's Great Pyramid as a power plant. Because this is hard to support, doesn't mean that his empirical research is not valid. Some Egyptians had used lathes, and ultrasound is the only complete explanation for the drilling phenomena in question.

I haven't read the book, but the fact that his work is "unopposed" is meaningless. Lack of opposition is not the same as acceptance. Serious scientists and researchers don't waste their time opposing fringe nonsense.

 

[Belz...]

He knows who, and no, it was a long answer, why do it again? Go back and find out my answer to the question. If you don't know it, there is no modicum of understanding me in you, which I would have expected by now.

So are you saying you CAN'T produce the lineholders that you could "easily" produce ?

 

[Belz...]

Its nice to see all you birds of the same feather getting along when you speak the same thing and follow the same party lines and obey what you have been taught to obey.

What's the party line, DJ ? Asking for evidence for something that seems ridiculous ?

This research you absolutely refuse to do because it shows design.... and the majority of you hate design, you prefer chaos.

That's not an argument.

 

[Paulhoff]

Like writing, mathematics is man-made, and that mathematics can be use to show so many relationships is wondrous, but it has nothing to do with any so-called god, that is only in the mind of the self-delusional.

Paul

 

[ReligionStudent]

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Chris Dunn's work on machining in ancient Egypt is supported by the facts he makes obvious. As far as I know, his work is unopposed.
It is a different story with Dunn's Great Pyramid as a power plant. Because this is hard to support, doesn't mean that his empirical research is not valid. Some Egyptians had used lathes, and ultrasound is the only complete explanation for the drilling phenomena in question.

Yes it is clearly opposed, by archaeological and textual evidence. You are talking about a culture where the common people were still working with little pieces of sharpened stone tied to sticks.

Maybe few archaeologists come out and write against Dunn, but why waste the time, there is a big difference between having one's work unopposed (because its just obvious bunk) and having it actually supported.

 

[jsfisher]

Happy Birthday, ReligionStudent.

 

[ReligionStudent]

Happy Birthday, ReligionStudent.

Thank you!

 

[JonnyFive]

You don't see it, and I grow reluctant to assist you and pry your eyes open, but the main difference in the impact of the two theories is that while I should worry about the men-in-black, he has to worry about the men-in-white

So you aren't planning to post any additional evidence for your line-drawing? Thanks for clearing that up.

And Jiri, you are claiming that certain numbers are somehow innately special, or have deeper meaning than simply being numbers (e.g. your Osiris numbers). That, by definition, is numerology. Perhaps you would prefer the term "analytical numeronomy?"

I'm glad that my username was the subject of several posts worth of diversion. That sort of treatment is really good for the old ego.

 

[Jiri]

Numeracy

So you aren't planning to post any additional evidence for your line-drawing? Thanks for clearing that up.

You surprize me, according to you I haven't posted any evidence, so how could I post more of it? It must be that you cannot express yourself properly.

And Jiri, you are claiming that certain numbers are somehow innately special, or have deeper meaning than simply being numbers (e.g. your Osiris numbers). That, by definition, is numerology.

Osiris Numbers are special, only when appearing together in groups. It is the selection process by whoever is grouping them so (an ancient poet, or architect for example) that is special.
Of course, some proportions are indeed special. Are Pi, and Phi special, do they have special innate properties, and do they have deeper meaning than simply being numbers?
But, of course they do. Besides being just numbers (yes, they are just numbers), they also stand for classic ratios, and thus express an idea.
And some numbers are special in that they are prime numbers. If being prime has any meaning than that meaning is something special. Some primes are downright beautiful, '113' is one of them. It is one of the starring numbers in the Frame.
In other words you are doing something very unsavory here. If it were up to you, we could not see the difference between 'one' and 'two'. That according to you would be numerology.
So, you misrepresented my views completely based on your total misunderstanding of what Numerology means.
What a dictionary says:
numerology
One entry found for numerology.
Main Entry: nu·mer·ol·o·gy
Pronunciation: "nü-m&-'rä-l&-jE, "nyü-
Function: noun
Etymology: Latin numerus + English -o- + -logy
: the study of the occult significance of numbers

The key word here is occult, which could probably be related to religious. A top-notch mathematician like Einstein can at the same time be a numerologist, I hope you realize that?
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Perhaps you would prefer the term "analytical numeronomy?"

Of course, your lack of numeracy would preclude you from seeing it in the Stone-Age Frame, which could justly be called "Etudes on Numeracy". It really is nonsense to you. You refuse to see the phenomenon for what it definitely is - a stupendous anomaly. So, what exactly is the point in me talking to you?