Imus be an idiot . . .

[slingblade]

Does Dustin fool anyone except himself?

Here? Doubtful.

But that he even exists proves there is a type, a "mind set" if you will, out there who can be fooled by him. After all, he was similarly fooled by someone else, somewhere in life.

Scary, innit?

 

[Gurdur]

.... After all, he was similarly fooled by someone else, somewhere in life.
Scary, innit?

Pardon me if I demur; maybe he simply fools himself out of choice, maybe noone else fooled him, noone else is responsible for this crap. Maybe he's simply some pimply very angry 23-year-old bitching about not being able to have his fav shock jock make racist jokes and get away with it.

Dunno if he's scarey, like you I've met far worse, I think he's just pathetic. But entertaining.

 

[slingblade]

Well, no, I don't necessarily mean by a particular person, displacing the blame or personal responsibility onto a third party. But he heard it somewhere, didn't he? And he's trying very hard to spread it, isn't he? And that he exists shows that others, similarly minded, must also...which, of course, we know....

I guess I was just musing in the existential or something...just thinking in text how sad it is that there are those who can fool themselves into agreeing with this sort of irrational hate while simultaneously denying it's there.

And then, of course, we enter the realm of "if I hate the hater, am I a hater, too?" and--hey! Stop pushing! No, no, I don't want to go to Philosophy! No, wait, wa--

 

[steverino]

I challenge anyone who believe that "nappy-headed" ISN'T a racial slur to go up to a group of African-American men and loudly exclaim, "So, how are you nappy-headed fellows today?"

When you're released from the Emergency Room, come back and defend your position.

It's all context. Someone can say "You are such a Jew." Then the word "Jew" is insulting in certain contexts.

Anyway, this "being scarred for life" seems to me like the basketball players are posturing for a big lawsuit agains Imus. His pockets are deap.

 

[Gurdur]

...Anyway, this "being scarred for life" seems to me like the basketball players are posturing for a big lawsuit agains Imus. His pockets are deap.

Welcome to America.

Imus made his living being an arsehole shock jock; it's extremely difficult to feel any sympathy whatsoever for him; in fact I hope they take him for every cent he has, just because he's a diptwit.

 

[Wheezebucket]

He should actually be fired for producing one of the most consistently awful and boring radio shows known to humanity. Have you seen the TV show? It manages to be even MORE boring than the radio show somehow. It's like just looking at him drains all the life right out of you. And his droning voice...And who's that creepy guy that he chats with? Imagine if they fire Imus and give the show to him for some reason...

 

[steverino]

Welcome to America.

Imus made his living being an arsehole shock jock; it's extremely difficult to feel any sympathy whatsoever for him; in fact I hope they take him for every cent he has, just because he's a diptwit.

I heard he makes 10 million a year!

Life isn't fair.

 

[Wheezebucket]

10 million?! For THAT?!

Not surprising, yet still depressing...

 

[hgc]

He should actually be fired for producing one of the most consistently awful and boring radio shows known to humanity. Have you seen the TV show? It manages to be even MORE boring than the radio show somehow. It's like just looking at him drains all the life right out of you. And his droning voice...And who's that creepy guy that he chats with? Imagine if they fire Imus and give the show to him for some reason...

That's not the half of it. As painful as it is to listen to his voice, like daggers in your ears, it's even worse how friggin' slow he talks how he takes long pauses in his sentences. Silence is death on the radio. Doesn't he know that? And to listen to this ancient wrinkly crone and his dingleberry sucking sidekicks try to mimic rap phrasology, don't even get me started...

Who listens to him? Anyone? Anyone under 60?

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

No, it did not "come from" there, as in "originated" there.

I have news for you, youngster. That word's been around a lot longer than Spike himself, and it is absolutely racist. It refers to only one people: black people.

You don't fool me, kid. Though it is somewhat sad to see how you're fooling yourself.

I'm talking about Imus' reference to it. His co-host mentioned "Jigaboos and wannabes" referencing the Spike Lee movie. Please stop contorting what I say into what you'd like it to say.

 

[Lonewulf]

Intriguing. Not sure if this was mentioned earlier, but...

According to Wikipedia:

Chicago Tribune columnist Clarence Page, who once had Imus take a pledge not to engage in racist talk, said of the Imus' two-week suspension, "This sends a very bad signal and it's a bad use of the public airwaves. And, frankly, I don't think it's even fair to other shock jocks who've lost their jobs over doing a lot less."

(From here)

So he made a pledge not to make racist remarks. But that's not all. He's been pointed out to be extremely misogynistic, homophobic, and racist before. From what I've heard (but haven't seen actual evidence yet, so I'm somewhat skeptical), he's even referred to blacks as "apes" in the past.

Also, he's allegedly committed slander in two cases, who challenged him on it in 2003 and 2004. Probably more cases than that, where the people slandered didn't bother to take him to court over it.

I'm done caring about this freak.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

Pardon me if I demur; maybe he simply fools himself out of choice, maybe noone else fooled him, noone else is responsible for this crap. Maybe he's simply some pimply very angry 23-year-old bitching about not being able to have his fav shock jock make racist jokes and get away with it.

Dunno if he's scarey, like you I've met far worse, I think he's just pathetic. But entertaining.

More nonsense and no debate? Typical. Whenever you can't debate the facts anymore you resort to petty nonsense and cowardly tactics. I effectively spanked you in this thread and the other one proving that this whole Imus ordeal is a joke and what Imus said was not racist. You were left stuttering like the blabbering idiot that you are and now that you have nothing left, all you can do is act like a 15 year old and pull the old "pimply 20 something" routine?

 

[slingblade]

I'm talking about Imus' reference to it. His co-host mentioned "Jigaboos and wannabes" referencing the Spike Lee movie. Please stop contorting what I say into what you'd like it to say.

Doesn't matter what was being referenced or by whom. The word is still racist. You are still wrong.

 

[Mephisto]

It's all context. Someone can say "You are such a Jew." Then the word "Jew" is insulting in certain contexts.

Anyway, this "being scarred for life" seems to me like the basketball players are posturing for a big lawsuit agains Imus. His pockets are deap.

You're right and I wouldn't put up with that kind of language either! It's an ugly stereotype and I've met many a poor Jewish person (that's another sick stereotype, that all Jews are rich).

For the record, the two cultures most persecuted by the Nazis, the Jews and the Gypsies, share the "spend-thrift" stereotype. "Don't let him Gyp you out of your money," referred to Gypsies.

I also don't let anyone call someone an "Indian-Giver" around me, nor do I allow anyone to tell racist or sexist jokes around me. Believe it or not, I even have Asian friends who drive just fine.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

Well, no, I don't necessarily mean by a particular person, displacing the blame or personal responsibility onto a third party. But he heard it somewhere, didn't he? And he's trying very hard to spread it, isn't he? And that he exists shows that others, similarly minded, must also...which, of course, we know....

I guess I was just musing in the existential or something...just thinking in text how sad it is that there are those who can fool themselves into agreeing with this sort of irrational hate while simultaneously denying it's there.

And then, of course, we enter the realm of "if I hate the hater, am I a hater, too?" and--hey! Stop pushing! No, no, I don't want to go to Philosophy! No, wait, wa--

Let's look at exactly what Don Imus said...

IMUS: That's some rough girls from Rutgers. Man, they got tattoos and --

BERNARD McGUIRK: Some hard-core hos.

IMUS: That's some nappy-headed hos there. I'm gonna tell you that now, man, that's some -- woo. And the girls from Tennessee, they all look cute, you know, so, like -- kinda like -- I don't know.

He simply called them "Nappy headed hos". Now it's true that this is an offensive thing to say and no doubt offended some people, but let's not make it into something it isn't.

Is it racist? I don't see how. By definition "nappy" simply means "kinky" hair. While it's a fact that most African Americans do have "kinky" hair and that these Rutger players had kinky hair, I don't for one second see how this could be racist. If Chris Rock had said they had nappy hair, would he of been called a racist? No. The fact that we have a double standard here is proof that what Dan Imus said was not racist.

Dan himself has nappy hair. It wasn't a racial slur. White people can have nappy hair as well.

1 : closely twisted or curled

http://www.m-w.com/cgi-bin/dictionar...earch&va=Kinky

By definition, Shortly curled=Nappy.

I've shown how it has nothing to do with race. Only blacks have nappy hair? I use "Nappy head" all of the time when referring to Caucasians. Imus has nappy hair. It wasn't a racial slur. White people can have nappy hair as well. The fact that they HAD nappy hair seems to be amiss. He was attacked by politically correct morons who have nothing better to do than pick fights with people. Now he may lose his job for a triviality. A molehill made into a mountain.

 

[Lonewulf]

*Yawn*

 

[slingblade]

And you're still wrong.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

So he made a pledge not to make racist remarks. But that's not all. He's been pointed out to be extremely misogynistic, homophobic, and racist before.

His comments weren't racist. I've proven that already. The fact that people are construing them into something they aren't is irrelevant.

From what I've heard (but haven't seen actual evidence yet, so I'm somewhat skeptical), he's even referred to blacks as "apes" in the past.

His co-hosts were joking about how Serena and Venus Williams were as big as "Gorillas" in their playboy shoot I believe.

I'm done caring about this freak.

It's not him you should care about. Of course he's raised over 100 million for cancer research and has helped autistic children for decades...Which of course seems to be totally ignored. What you need to care about is the pervasive attitude in our society that anything is racist. Anything and everything. If Al Sharpton says it's racist well it must be racist!

 

[hgc]

Dan himself has nappy hair. It wasn't a racial slur. White people can have nappy hair as well.

Do you think that 70's perm is nappy hair? I wasn't going to pile on top of you in this thread, but now I have to say that you're actually goofier than I previously thought.

 

[Lonewulf]

Do you think that 70's perm is nappy hair? I wasn't going to pile on top of you in this thread, but now I have to say that you're actually goofier than I previously thought.

You just figured it out?

His comments weren't racist. I've proven that already. The fact that people are construing them into something they aren't is irrelevant.

He was also strong-armed by the NAACP and NOW. The latter did it because his comments were misogynistic. He has a long history of misogyny, at the least.

Raising over 100 million dollars for cancer research and helping autistic children for decades is cool and all, if that's true (and I admit, it does raise my respect for the guy a little), but I wouldn't care if he was frikkin' Mother Theresa.

If Mother Theresa went around making misogynistic and racist remarks, especially about people that didn't have it coming, I'd still criticize her.

As for you "proving" that the comments weren't racist, the evidence I have seen is unsatisfactory.

This man seems to have a history, and the more I see of it, the more I do not like him. Then there's the fact that he seems to own up to the claim that his claims were racist, which is interesting; if his comments weren't racist, why is he apologizing for them, and saying that he "went too far"?