StopSylviaBrowne: AC360 - Browne's Best Evidence?

[EeneyMinnieMoe]

I once had a book of hers from a woo-woo friend who gave it to me as a birthday gift. I recycled it and used the Masaru Emoto one she gave me as campfire fuel when I went to Yellowstone . So it did make a useful contribution to the world after all!

 

[Minarvia]

That wasn't a slam on you. Someone cannot just start defaming a non-public figure because they want to.

See: http://www.expertlaw.com/library/personal_injury/defamation.html

Browne would open herself to litigation if she ordered her followers to start a website attacking you for a vendetta.

I wonder, tho, if Robert falls into the "involuntary" or "limited" public figure examples? If so, things may get nasty for him. I certainly hope not.

 

[FramerDave]

Well, the Sylvia woos already started:

http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/stoprobert

They got seven signatures.

Here's the text from the petition:

Make that eight.

Exactly what do they hope to accomplish with this? Who will they send the petition to?

 

[EeneyMinnieMoe]

To Robert? Only thing that petition could do is make someone shrug and write back "Make me!".

 

[Questioninggeller]

I wonder, tho, if Robert falls into the "involuntary" or "limited" public figure examples? If so, things may get nasty for him. I certainly hope not.

A webmaster as a "involuntary public figure" would be a stretch. However, more than one TV appearance would probably make him into a "public figure," according to #3:

The U.S. Supreme has established some guidelines on who constitutes a public figure:
(1) Involuntary Public Figure: become public figure through no purposeful action of their own, including those who have become especially prominent in the affairs of society;
(2) Always Public Figures: those who occupy position of such persuasive power and influence that they are deemed public figures for all purposes;
(3) Public Figures on Specific Issues: "those who have thrust themselves to the forefront of particular public controversies in order to influence the resolution of the issues involved."

http://www.abbottlaw.com/defamation.html

It's a little hard to argue, at least now, that Robert is at "the forefront of particular public controversies in order to influence the resolution of the issues involved." Right now he is basically just a webmaster supplying information about a public figure.

 

[grayman]

Make that eight.

Exactly what do they hope to accomplish with this? Who will they send the petition to?

Yes, but read the name of the eighth signer aloud. heh heh heh

 

[wahrheit]

It's a little hard to argue, at least now, that Robert is at "the forefront of particular public controversies in order to influence the resolution of the issues involved." Right now he is basically just a webmaster supplying information about a public figure.

"Just a webmaster supplying information?"

Are you kidding?

He's da man, someone who really makes a difference, imho.


Disclaimer: I know perfectly well what you intended to say, let alone the fact that you were talking legal stuff. I was just kidding. I know you are also one of the guys (?) like Robert who actively do research and put in a lot of work to educate people about scam artists like $aliva.

 

[clerihew80]

It's a little hard to argue, at least now, that Robert is at "the forefront of particular public controversies in order to influence the resolution of the issues involved." Right now he is basically just a webmaster supplying information about a public figure.

Considering that it was his website that broke the Shawn Hornbeck story, which resulted in the Anderson Cooper expose; and considering that, rather than just disinterestedly supplying information, he actively denounces her on television, radio and on the net, I think he meets the criteria for Article 3 quite nicely.

If you were asked "who's at the forefront of Sylvia Browne criticism?" I think you'd have to answer "Robert Lancaster and James Randi", wouldn't you?

 

[Almo]

Great article, dude!

 

[boojum]

I'm getting a little curious about the petition at http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/stoprobert now. Since I mentioned it here, a few more (largely skeptical) remarks have been added.

What I'm curious about is this message:

If you have a comment, your signature will not be posted automatically until the owner of this petition approves your comment. If you want your signature to go live immediately, you do not need to put any comment.

at the bottom of page over there.

If the statement above is true and the petition creator is actually letting skeptical comments through, then I commend her for her fairness. (Being the skeptical ol' bastard that I am I suspect that she has mis-configured her petition and that comments are going up automatically....)

 

[Almo]

WTF is up with her voice? She must be a smoker. How can people trust this wench? I really don't get it. And I don't mean why do people trust her when she's a smoker or because of her voice. Just why.

 

[rjh01]

OK which one of you is Barry Saxalby? This is his comment.

All religious faith's are a disease of mankind's childhood. The quicker we are rid of religious faith and superstition the better. Perhaps then we will will have a brave new world based on the reality of science, and not one cluttered with gods, demons and fairies.

And who did this?

To "Katrina Hernandez",

You just said the following:
"I can continue with the reasons why this man should be stop. But I'll stop. Why? Because Idon't need to convince people like he needs to. I don't need to stray people from their faith.!!!"

So if you"don't need to convince people" then why are you trying so hard to convince them by forming this petition and trying to stop SSB.com?

Here's a tip: Sylvia Browne is a lying, nasty, fraudulent and bad person.

As long as she's alive there will always be people and websites devoted to stopping her.

Learn to accept that fact. They're doing it for your own good,believe it or not. They actually care more about you than that lying fraud Sylvia Browne will ever care about you or any of the vulnerable people she thieves money from.

$750 per half hour phone "reading"?!!!!!

She's disgusting and you should be embarrassed by your support of this uncaring,charlatan thief who would charge grieving people money they can't possibly afford... but which they scrape up just to hear that witches lies.

StopSylviaBrowne!!!

signed,
Michael Devlin. (And thanks Sylvia for keeping the cops away from me for four years!!) : )

(minor changes to fix spelling)

 

[clerihew80]

WTF is up with her voice? She must be a smoker.

According to Sylvia's book "Insight":

"I've only experienced one addiction, and I have no intention of trying to overcome it: I'm a learning junkie. I love school, I love studying, I love research. I even love the fact that the more I learn, the more I find I don't know." (Pg. 27)

She then gives a glorious account of her days at "San Francisco University," where she was immersed in Sartre, Joyce and Bertrand Russell. (Yeah, right!!!)

 

[RSLancastr]

That wasn't a slam on you.

I know. I just like using the sad smiley every once in a while.

I wonder, tho, if Robert falls into the "involuntary" or "limited" public figure examples? If so, things may get nasty for him. I certainly hope not.

I'm not particularly worried about it, Minarvia.

If you were asked "who's at the forefront of Sylvia Browne criticism?" I think you'd have to answer "Robert Lancaster and James Randi", wouldn't you?

Randi has been tirelessly battling this sort of nonsense for decades, and Browne herself for at least a decade. I've had the site since November. I think you have the names in the wrong order, clerihew. But I do appreciate the compliment.

Great article, dude!

Woah! Thanks, dude!

WTF is up with her voice? She must be a smoker.

Funny thing, that. She evidently claims that she does not smoke. Yet people who know her say she chain smokes.

She then gives a glorious account of her days at "San Francisco University," where she was immersed in Sartre, Joyce and Bertrand Russell. (Yeah, right!!!)

I'll have to give that one a read!

 

[Steven Howard]

She then gives a glorious account of her days at "San Francisco University," where she was immersed in Sartre, Joyce and Bertrand Russell. (Yeah, right!!!)

Suppose a particular psychic lies to people if and only they don't lie to themselves. Does she lie to herself?

 

[articulett]

I love the petition. Woos are so cute when they're angry. It must be a bummer that faith is so useless. Why aren't they just engaging their spirit guides to stop Robert and his slow but steady stream of facts?

Robert, you faith killer, you.

Rock on.

 

[Pipirr]

Apparently the guy from Lost has started a petition in support of RSL. http://www.petitionspot.com/petitions/stopslyvia

Some of the other petitions on the front page there are really quite funny:

I petition that horses be farmed again for delicious tasty meat

Stop Craigslist from selling expired carseats

and my favorite:

Global Warming is a serious act that we need to start helping!

'cos it's cold here?

 

[Almo]

And, as usual, critical comments do not get approved or published, only dumb praise for $ylvia is allowed.


This new article is another excellent addition to your website, Robert.

Yup.

We should all comment. Make sure he has too much to read through.

Just added this comment:

And to whomever is editing these comments... You must know Silvia is a charlatan. Or you'd let conflicting comments be displayed, as her talent would speak for itself. Shame on you.