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How Can We Arrange a Debate?

Childlike Empress said:
No surprise. From what i've seen, you like to focus on the easiest targets. Prove me wrong, debate him (or just walk over to Brooklyn and drink a beer with him).

<gravy>Proceed.</gravy> ;)
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Frankly, I know nothing about this character. I just visited his webpage and he seems to be just another garden-variety loon. What would he bring to the show?
 
You know Ron, I'm seeing a pattern here.

First you come to us saying Greening can't register, now it's your producer that can't register.

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What are you doing Ron? The common denominator seems to be you. Why don't you want them here? You're a truther shill aren't you?

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I will dontate $250 to fund a plane ticket for either Fetzer or Griffin to travel to NYC to get butchered in a debate by Mark Roberts.

100% serious.
 
pomeroo said:
Frankly, I know nothing about this character. I just visited his webpage and he seems to be just another garden-variety loon. What would he bring to the show?
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He will tell you that a lot of the 9/11 Conspiracy Theories are not based on facts but the official version is bogus and the mass murder of this day hasn't been thoroughly investigated. And he will provide facts to backup his opinion.

BTW, while i might be the only person in Germany who has a copy of his book, he IS a known person in the "truth movement" - just not one of the bigmouths promoted on FOX.
 
I might even chip in....but he has to fly JetBlue and bring his own sandwiches.
 
pomeroo said:
Which reminds me--Gary says he's getting rejected when he attempts to join the JREF. I'd like to help him.
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As Admin

I had your post pointed out to me in a PM.

If someone is having trouble registering it is usually because they have not supplied the required information i.e. First Name, Last Name, Country and State if in the USA. If he has supplied that information then it may be that his ISP is blocking the email from the Forum that has his activation code.

He can always contact me at darat@randi.org if he is having problems.
 
Alareth said:
You know Ron, I'm seeing a pattern here.

First you come to us saying Greening can't register, now it's your producer that can't register.

<ctmode>

What are you doing Ron? The common denominator seems to be you. Why don't you want them here? You're a truther shill aren't you?

</ctmode>
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Shhh!
 
I'd debate the GravyMeister but unfortunately we agree on too much. Rats.

Hey wait a minute. I'm an actor (at times). Sure as ten dimes buys a buck, I could make-pretend be a Twoofer!!!11!!1!!! I'll give the Markster a debate that even the tour guide industry will be talking about for YEARS!

I'll dress up in my Indy outfit.

Lemme practice.

"Yo Gravy, if it doesn't fit, you must acq... you must prove that concrete dust in the 1.5 to 1.6754 micron range could ONLY be produced by inward bowing of the outer core columns in a vacuum!!!"
 
A lurkers suggestion.

I think Mike Berger the Media Coorinator for 911truth.org would probaly be up for it. I have personally debated him in a informal setting, I was drinking beer an didn't do as well as I could have but I held my own with the help of reading most of Gravy papers.

He lives in St. Louis but he does travel to NYC often to visit his family.
 
ConspiRaider said:
I'd debate the GravyMeister but unfortunately we agree on too much. Rats.

Hey wait a minute. I'm an actor (at times). Sure as ten dimes buys a buck, I could make-pretend be a Twoofer!!!11!!1!!! I'll give the Markster a debate that even the tour guide industry will be talking about for YEARS!

I'll dress up in my Indy outfit.

Lemme practice.

"Yo Gravy, if it doesn't fit, you must acq... you must prove that concrete dust in the 1.5 to 1.6754 micron range could ONLY be produced by inward bowing of the outer core columns in a vacuum!!!"
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:bigclap

You're hired!
 
Gravy said:
Greco-Roman wrestling. With Ron doing his Howard Cosell play-by-play. "Down goes Roberts!" I'd pay to see that.
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pomeroo said:
When the world was young, I dated a, uh, dancer who occasionally engaged in nude mud-wrestling. She quit because the mud gave her ear infections. I just flashed an image of Rosie and...I can't continue. It's horrible...horrible. Why do I do this to myself?
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I think I could take her in Sumo wrestling. But I don't thnk anyone would pay to see that...
 
Jaguar said:
I have a suggestion.

How about inviting the Jersey Girls on?

Or Craig Bartmer?

Or maybe one of the EMTs like Indira Singh, who said she was told building7 was being brought down?

Will Mark have the guts to face those people and call them liars?
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How about Alice Hoglan or Todd Beamer's widow versus those you mention...hmmm...pathetic.

Griffin versus Mark would be good, but not for Griffin...he parrots the same old debunked junk...he has nothing new.

TAM:)
 
pomeroo said:
Which reminds me--Gary says he's getting rejected when he attempts to join the JREF. I'd like to help him.
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Send a PM to one of the admins, like Lisa Simpson.

I liked Sander Hicks personally when I met him; he was very pleasant. Unfortunately, I don't know if his version of the 9-11 CT is debatable without getting into really exotic areas. For example, when I asked him if Mohammed Atta was on Flight 11, his response was, 'Yes, he was the lead hijacker." That certainly marks him as one of the few 9-11 Deniers to assert that. OTOH, his book, The Big Wedding, is chock full of nonsense from Daniel Hopsicker to Leo Wanta. Apparently his new book (forgetting the name) claims that Barry Goldwater was behind the assassination of JFK. So a debate with him would not lack for nuttiness, but whether it's representative of 9-11 Denial is another matter.
 
T.A.M. said:
How about Alice Hoglan or Todd Beamer's widow versus those you mention...hmmm...pathetic.

Griffin versus Mark would be good, but not for Griffin...he parrots the same old debunked junk...he has nothing new.

TAM:)
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Ah yes, Mrs Beamer, she really has milked the teat of 911 till it's dry hasn't she. Im sure she would love the extra publicity of Hardfire.

I'm sure Griffin woul;d be simply perplexed by this kind offer of debate by a Tour Guide. That's all he is. One who knows how to deny things.

Ron has no intention of inviting Griffin on. He claimed he couldn't find contact details. I found them on google in 30 seconds.
 
Jaguar said:
Ah yes, Mrs Beamer, she really has milked the teat of 911 till it's dry hasn't she. Im sure she would love the extra publicity of Hardfire.

I'm sure Griffin woul;d be simply perplexed by this kind offer of debate by a Tour Guide. That's all he is. One who knows how to deny things.

Ron has no intention of inviting Griffin on. He claimed he couldn't find contact details. I found them on google in 30 seconds.
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The truth movement, an industry built on 9/11, hasn't milked 9/11 but a 9/11 widow and witness is milking 9/11. Yeah okay. Whatever.

Griffin has been debunked by experts. He is done. I don't know where Hardfire is filmed but I would debate any 9/11 truther. I have a degree in Economics. I am currently training to be a paramedic after being an EMT since 1996. I will kick Griffin's as.
 
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