Sean Manchester - Vampire Hunter
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As I have stated more then once keep your puerile and quite frankly boring personal feud off this Forum. I've banned this account and suspended your other one.
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The Overseer
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Hi The Vampire,
Since you call me out on a specific issue, here's your answer:
It is indeed your only post to the forum thus far, but it is interesting to note the following from it:
But how did I know that it was your nick? Simple, and as stated earlier, reading through the thread.
Oh, and by the way, have you cancelled your membership on Farrant's forum?
Since you call me out on a specific issue, here's your answer:
More specifically, it's here.
It is indeed your only post to the forum thus far, but it is interesting to note the following from it:
I presume you didn't e-mail him then, as you have stated that the message in question was your only interaction with him via that forum.
But how did I know that it was your nick? Simple, and as stated earlier, reading through the thread.
While you have stayed out of the "David Farrant - Psychic investigator" thread, you haven't out of this one (after my initial contribution, see here, here, here and here). Which is interesting, considering that your posts on this thread are largely detrimental towards Manchester (however much they're worth). Note the tags alone.
Oh, and by the way, have you cancelled your membership on Farrant's forum?
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Why are you obsessed with my joining Farrant's forum 4 months ago? How does this affect your life in general? Why is my account status your business in the first place?
Why did you join back in January and only start posting now?
BTW: Your PM box is full. Email me: admin@mondoskepto.com
Why did you join back in January and only start posting now?
BTW: Your PM box is full. Email me: admin@mondoskepto.com
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The Overseer
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Your account status isn't my business. You could say you're still a member or that you're not a member or that you don't wish to divulge such information. It's your call. I just thought it might've had a relevancy to the matter we've been discussing.
I'm not obsessed at all. You asked me: "Pray, what lead you to this odd conclusion I was associated with Farrant? Upon what evidence?" I gave you an answer, in context to that.
Your account status isn't my business. You could say you're still a member or that you're not a member or that you don't wish to divulge such information. It's your call. I just thought it might've had a relevancy to the matter we've been discussing.
I joined back in January (after previous, abortive attempts) to respond to the "Vampires Staked" thread. I just never got around to posting a response. I've been heaps busy/distracted by other things in my life, not associated with the Highgate Vampire Case. However, I decided to return some attention to it, recently. You'll note that my initial contributions to the JREF forum, are near contemporary to the latest postings on my own forum (as of this writing).
Cheers for that. I've cleaned it out a bit.
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Again, why should it have any relevancy? It's a public forum and what I have posted (or not ) is open for anyone to see.
To clarify in case you've missed a few chapters, this is my take on the whole deal:
The "bish" is a sad old tosser who does nothing but troll the internet sh[rule 8] stirring because he gets off on confusion. He bursts into websites and harasses people who really have nothing to do with him or his claims to pass the time. If you dare ask him a question over his silly, wild claims, he spits even more venom and goes into harassment overdrive. Now that he's too old to pull off his vampire spider chasing Byronic Hero shtick for the media, he went to an Old Catholic diploma mill, gave himself a "title" of Bishop in some dodgy invented order and now tries to pass himself off as a Montague Summers wannabe. Now and then the Beeb will trot him out when they need a good laugh from the audience. It's all sad and depressing to see someone waste their entire lives over laughable claims and Narcissistic Personality Disorder, but it's hard to muster much sympathy for someone so unlikable and poisonous.
As far as my opinion on David Farrant, my skepticism, etc - he still has not presented any evidence on this forum to back any claims and dodges questions. I feel no need to draw and quarter him here. However, he is a more likable and easygoing person. He's yet to burst into my website and sh[rule 8] stir. I can't say that for the bish, though. Why this is thought of as evidence of my somehow being in cahoots with Mr. Farrant, is beyond me.
That said, this bullsh*t about the Manchester/Farrant feud has reached its expiry date. If you have any further questions for me, please email me at the aforementioned email address or PM me here.
Capisce?
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This thread makes me long for my old internet stomping grounds, the forum at www.thecreatures.com. That was a real-time, unmoderated free-for-all. We were all fans of Siouxsie Sioux but seldom talked about her. It was the rowdiest forum on the internet. Posting there was like diving into a mosh pit. We discussed and argued about everything. I held my own there for 5 years until they pulled the plug last spring. Then I wandered over here. I wish it was still around so I could invite the "bish" and his sock puppets to discuss things there. Nothing livens up a debate like cyber chairs and beer bottles being thrown and a 24/7 cyber-brawl with "Love in a Void" blasting in the background. The bish and company wouldn't stand a chance, Hell, just one look at Sioux's picture would have frightened the old git away! |
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DavidFarrant
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Stumped for title!
Well, I guess its better than wrestling!
David Farrant
Well, I guess its better than wrestling!
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In regards to "bursting on your website" (the same kind of public one as the other forum you belong to), is that preceeding the "bursting", you said this:
Sure, it might be paltry, but was it neccessary? I'd call that asking for it.
I should mention, that beside the the content I've seen on the page, I'm not aware of the "venom" you mention. It could have been in the form of personal correspondance, I don't know. You're not clear about it.
I'm starting to sound like an apologist here, but all I'm asking for is fairness, really. As I said, if you're gonna do one, do both.
It's relevant, because you opened an abusive thread, which has a link to a blog you admit is an act of provokation (the "poke" reference, Message 1).
I agree that the Bishop's league tend to spend a lot of time trawling the 'net for references to him and defending him and so forth. It might be "sad", but it's hardly illegal. Hell, you had an "interest" in him too. I haven't seen the "venom" or "harassment overdrive" you describe. Interesting description considering the content of your own posts. If you find someone "waste their entire lives over laughable claims", then you can give us a much harsher opinion on Mr. Farrant's, the other side in the whole thing.
You have no need to "draw and quater" him...in a skeptic's forum, but feel the need to do this to Manchester? If you're going to do that, at least be consistant and level the same at both. Being more "likable" or "easygoing", doesn't quite cut it in such matters.
In regards to "bursting on your website" (the same kind of public one as the other forum you belong to), is that preceeding the "bursting", you said this:
Sure, it might be paltry, but was it neccessary? I'd call that asking for it.
I should mention, that beside the the content I've seen on the page, I'm not aware of the "venom" you mention. It could have been in the form of personal correspondance, I don't know. You're not clear about it.
I don't see how responding to you is part of a "feud". Also, I don't think it's fair that you continued to message to the thread (one that you opened, mind), after abusive messages relating to Manchester and then try to slap a "gag order" on me.
I'm starting to sound like an apologist here, but all I'm asking for is fairness, really. As I said, if you're gonna do one, do both.
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delphi_ote
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I may not always agree with The Vampire, but stuffing words in another person's mouth is not something I'm going to sit by and watch. She never proposed that Manchester should be drawn and quartered, even though he harassed her.
Melodramatic troublemakers like you deserve to be drawn and quartered. Especially when they're trying to escalate a feud that has sprawled across multiple forums. Nobody here gives a **** about who said what when. This is all nonsense that has nothing to do with us. If you don't have anything constructive to contribute, get the hell off our forum. We don't need attention whores starting petty drama because their personal lives are a miserable morass of failures and frustrations.
Agree.
The ''feud", while amusing because of its paranormal content, is inappropriate for this forum. It belongs in another venue, perhaps more like this one
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The guy just can't read. I'm not saying anymore to him on this forum though. Like delphi_ote says, everyone is tired of sock puppets stirring things.
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Hi delphi_ote
How have I not been constructive, considering the whole wrestling match/doctored Exorcist pic now being used to pad the thread out?
Hi The Vampire,
Even though you request that a discussion take place via PM (I've responded to your message), you still make room here to take digs, so here goes:
It's grossly unfair to accuse me of "stirring things", considering your own contributions to this thread. Not to mention starting it in the first place.
Turning the tables on me, as if I'm somehow to blame for all this, is hardly fair either.
Hi delphi_ote
Yes, she says he harassed her. Still uncertain on how this harassment took form. I guess she'll let me know by private message. No, she never proposed that Manchester be drawn and quatered. I didn't say she said that either.
Is it fair to call me a troublemaker in this regard? I'm not the one posting abuse and so forth, or openly ridiculing certain parties. Out of the 17 pages of messages in this thread, my messages appear on about two (if I recall). So how can you honestly sit there and accuse me of "escalating" a feud? That's nonsense.
How have I not been constructive, considering the whole wrestling match/doctored Exorcist pic now being used to pad the thread out?
Hi The Vampire,
Even though you request that a discussion take place via PM (I've responded to your message), you still make room here to take digs, so here goes:
I can read well enough. You don't have to say anything more to me on this forum. That's your call. If you're indicating that I am a sock puppet though (as with the picture you helpfully posted a few messages back), then as I've said before, I'm not aligned with Manchester. As I said, even DavidFarrant is aware of this.
It's grossly unfair to accuse me of "stirring things", considering your own contributions to this thread. Not to mention starting it in the first place.
Turning the tables on me, as if I'm somehow to blame for all this, is hardly fair either.
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Hi. Stop playing innocent. Everyone here is ready to drop this petty personal nonsense, but you're obviously still hoping you can bait someone back into it. You enjoy wallowing in this fith of gossip and melodrama, but we're not going to join you.
If you have something substantive you'd like to discuss relating to the topic of "General Skepticism and The Paranormal" and its relationship to Sean Manchester, we're all ears. If not, find some other group of people to harass.
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If you're indicating that I am a sock puppet though (as with the picture you helpfully posted a few messages back), then as I've said before, I'm not aligned with Manchester. As I said, even DavidFarrant is aware of this.
What I AM aware of ‘Overseer’ is that it is yourself who keeps reviving this ancient feud nonsense. You did exactly the same thing on my Message Board, and did so persistently – just as you are now trying to do here. You may try and disguise it by protesting that you didn’t start it here. Maybe so, but you are certainly trying to carry it all on here, just as you have done elsewhere (or tried to do elsewhere as, if I remember, I wouldn’t answer you before either).
David Farrant
If you're indicating that I am a sock puppet though (as with the picture you helpfully posted a few messages back), then as I've said before, I'm not aligned with Manchester. As I said, even DavidFarrant is aware of this.
What I AM aware of ‘Overseer’ is that it is yourself who keeps reviving this ancient feud nonsense. You did exactly the same thing on my Message Board, and did so persistently – just as you are now trying to do here. You may try and disguise it by protesting that you didn’t start it here. Maybe so, but you are certainly trying to carry it all on here, just as you have done elsewhere (or tried to do elsewhere as, if I remember, I wouldn’t answer you before either).
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Hi again delphi_ote,
Hi DavidFarrant,
There's nothing to disguise. You've actually managed to pick out that I didn't start it. Nor am I its final contributor. The only thing I am "carrying" is an attempt to get answers. If not, then feel free to quote me otherwise.
And no, you wouldn't answer me before either. You've kept this up in the "David Farrant - Psychic investigator" thread, even claiming my questions aren't "genuine". You also accuse me of relating "propaganda", which you strangely refuse to deny or confirm as being accurate.
There's no feud here.
Nice way to try and turn the tables, guys.
Hi again delphi_ote,
Bait, how? I didn't know questioning was a form of baiting. I have been seeking confirmations on here, as DavidFarrant would be aware. What gossip and melodrama am I wallowing in?
I'd be interested to see what your contributions to this thread have been along those lines. Unless you consider doctored pics from The Exorcist to be more worthy. Isolate where my posts have gone awry, and I'll address them. And who exactly am I harassing? How? Who are you standing up for, exactly?
Hi DavidFarrant,
Ah, so now you claim I am reviving an "ancient feud". How ironic. It's funny that your contributions to it have hardly abated. No surprise that you even have contributions here in the first place. Your message board was rife with such "feud" content. Indeed, aren't you even the same person who published Man, Myth and Manchester? How about The Seangate Tapes? Don't play innocent in this, yourself.
There's nothing to disguise. You've actually managed to pick out that I didn't start it. Nor am I its final contributor. The only thing I am "carrying" is an attempt to get answers. If not, then feel free to quote me otherwise.
And no, you wouldn't answer me before either. You've kept this up in the "David Farrant - Psychic investigator" thread, even claiming my questions aren't "genuine". You also accuse me of relating "propaganda", which you strangely refuse to deny or confirm as being accurate.
There's no feud here.
Nice way to try and turn the tables, guys.