Iran War in Prophecy

[Darth Rotor]

Let me guess, 5 years ago before the middle east issues arose to the fore I bet you were predicting a war between USA and China?

I was, in 1991, predicting a new Cold War between US and China, since I assumed that Washington would not sell out economically. I was badly wrong in detail, it seems.

Is this correct DJJ? Your homosexual, someone who fails at prophecy and someone who is a devout jesus freak?

If this is true, why are you calling me/us the sinners?

Did you mean "you're homosexual" rather than "your homosexual?"

That whole line confused me, and FWIW, where did that come from in the first place? I am guessing I missed a post from DJJ on his sexuality. Is that right, or are you making a guess? An insult?



Explain, please.

DR

 

[RenaissanceBiker]

Did you mean "you're homosexual" rather than "your homosexual?"

That whole line confused me, and FWIW, where did that come from in the first place? I am guessing I missed a post from DJJ on his sexuality. Is that right, or are you making a guess? An insult?



Explain, please.

DR

Actually, that one is my doing. I criticized DJJ for putting words in my mouth by putting those words in his. As far as I know he has never stated that he is a homosexual, not that there's anything wrong with that.

/personal responsibility

 

[Hokulele]

You go with the prophecy maker that has an established consistent verifiable record of exactness and reliability...

In other words . . .

not you.

Then you discern thru peronal experience rather than just straight study from an outsiders perspective what the next prophecies are going to happen and WHY..... you may not know when, but you understand the concepts and His reasoning and see the SIGNS and understand the rationale.

(Bolding mine.)

Then how can this be called a prophecy? What is the point if you have no idea when?

<snip>

Then the Here and Now makes sense, and the future will unfold.

Its your choice and as always your responsibility

Finally! You got one thing correct in a post. If course, I doubt you know why this is correct.

 

[Blank]

Maybe it gets resolved like this: if Ahmadinejad has a bigger dick, his prophesy comes true, and if DJJ has a bigger dick, his prophesy comes true. So, this all becomes a "dick measuring contest," as so many arguments and disagreements become.
DR

Ahmadinejad is disposable. If it comes down to that, I wouldn't be at all surprised by the muslim clergy taking over power officially. After all, they're pretty much in control already.

Hey.. I'll throw a wild prediction:

Ahmadinejad gets a big too much attention drawn to Iran and invasion would threaten the power of the clergy there. Thus Ahmadinejad gets overthrown and thrown to a Iranian court, making everyone happy.. Atleast until the next puppet president raised to power stirs up a storm.

 

[Kochanski]

Davidjayjordan, there is no silicon heaven.

Just me hoping I can short-circuit our friend, the way Kryten did to his replacement

 

[Thomas1016]

I don't much care for anyone who attempts to put words into my mouth. When you say to me "so you don't believe" you are attempting to manufacture my position with your words.

was not trying to put words in your mouth just trying to understand better what you were saying. The term "so you don't believe" is meant as a question not a statement.

I actually agree with you on most of what you say except for the belief that just becuase Israel has nukes then Iran is justified to have them. The fact that Israel has them simply shows the past failures in letting them have them but that is a jeannie we are not going to get back into a bottle now. There is also a big diffrence in Irans attitude towards Israel basicly they want Israel destroyed and nuclear weapons makes that easier to do, Israel does not have the same beligerant attitude towards Iran. Thier goal is not to "wipe Iran of the map" as Iran has stated needs to be done to Israel.

Personly I wish no countries had nukes or for that matter nuclear power. But it is not realistic to expect them to simply stop useing them and get rid of what they do have. you can try and limit others from getting them especially those countries that exhibit no value for life mixed with religeous extremism.

 

[Kochanski]

Instead of kittens I thought I would drop the emperor in for some fun especially because he is rockin out with his band.

 

[hellaeon]

Actually, that one is my doing. I criticized DJJ for putting words in my mouth by putting those words in his. As far as I know he has never stated that he is a homosexual, not that there's anything wrong with that.

/personal responsibility

Whoops, DJJ -seriously - I made a half @ssed accusation about your sexual orientation - I apologise.

To clarify my post previously was about
a+b!=c whereas I thought you were a+b=c

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Back onto your actual rants - please stop speaking in riddles and circles.
Why do you persist with this false prophecy crap? God hates you. He told me.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Address the wider point: Nuclear war is an astoundingly unlikely thing. If Iran were to actually nuke someone (note they still don't have nuclear weapons), I think the consequences would be at least severely damaging, possibly permanently, to Iran as a country, and at most the consequences would themselves be nuclear. War? I think it's unlikely. The 2004 example is very convincing to me. It would be simply foolish of Iran to get into a war, seeing as either the UK or the US could take them, easily, without much difficulty at all. Ahmadinejad (please correct my spelling) is not a fool, I think.

Glen, simply said, you are using your carnal mind, your past tense status quo mind as if reason and logic was the answer to wars, when the human nature of the rich and powerful is the answer.

Nuclear war in a limited capacity is needed to supposedly blow up the Iranian bunkers..... from what I have read, as America doesn;t have the troops to have another ground occupation campaign. And yet the nuclear fallout shall be devastating to downwind countries.

It will surely be horrendous in scope.

I mean, America has started a war in Afhanistan, Iraq, helped America with Lebananon, apeased Egypt and Jordan with gifts, and started a war in Somalia, so going after the next Arab domino country Iran is hardly beyond their modus operandi.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Instead of kittens I thought I would drop the emperor in for some fun especially because he is rockin out with his band.

Back to pure foolish childish behavior again Kockanski. It seems your try at civility didn't last.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Ahmadinejad is disposable. If it comes down to that, I wouldn't be at all surprised by the muslim clergy taking over power officially. After all, they're pretty much in control already.

Hey.. I'll throw a wild prediction:

Ahmadinejad gets a big too much attention drawn to Iran and invasion would threaten the power of the clergy there. Thus Ahmadinejad gets overthrown and thrown to a Iranian court, making everyone happy.. Atleast until the next puppet president raised to power stirs up a storm.

A is as much a puppet as Bush, but a whole lot smarter.

Britian can get out of their Iranian excuse for war, by just stating they were in Iranian waters.

As obviously six Iranian vessels didn't violate Iraqui occupation waters. They were sent across without support to give an excuse.

Their troops now saying such, but surely they will say they were tortured into admitting this, even though it has taken years of torture for a few now insane G...detainees to admit to every crime they have been told to admit.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Actually, that one is my doing. I criticized DJJ for putting words in my mouth by putting those words in his. As far as I know he has never stated that he is a homosexual, not that there's anything wrong with that.

/personal responsibility

Daarth, they are trying to call me a 'Homsexual' as a slur, just more name calling slander, because they can't carry on a normal conversation.

Calling someone a homosexual is demeaning to a heterosexual and so they will try anything from kittens, to recipes to base slanderings.

No, I am not a homosexual, but if I was so be it, its usually a sexual orientation from birth.

I am not anti-homosexual as most Christians are because the scriptures and life dictate otherwise.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/CanGaysbesaved.html

So I let their name calling go, as they have accused me of that in other posts as well. And nothing corerects them or changes them.


Biker Dude.. Read revelation 17 for the fall of America as a start, but if you want to be spoon fed exact word for word prophecy, get a life... and keep riding.

For it is onl;y for the discerning and the intelligent and the discerning not for false skeptics that love false wind of freedom blowing through their hair

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Inconsistancy? Where?
I don't think you are the one to be lecturing me on consistency and honesty.

It is, however, telling that in all that, the best you can think to reply to is my characature of Saskatoon as a sesspool. Saskatoon is rife with hatred and corruption. I will criticize it for such. I don't see the world through rose- coloured glasses, nor do I see the solutions through fantasy-enshrouded mists, however brutal, murderous and vicious those mists are. I never claimed the world couldn't be more to my liking; I claimed that it won't become such through wishful thinking.

"Learn prophesy?" What is there to learn. It is empty, based on nosense, hasn't been correct even once (not even once!) and does nothing productive. More, it turns people away from the business of living.

Prophesy is a dogma of hatred, inefficacy and death.
I'll pass.

Yes, you are angry and living in a SESSPOOL. But it may be of your own making.

Prophecy has always been right....

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/MessianicPropheciesfulfilledbyJesus.html

But go ahead by angry with Jesus

If you choose...

 

[RenaissanceBiker]

Daarth, they are trying to call me a 'Homsexual' as a slur, just more name calling slander, because they can't carry on a normal conversation.

No, I used that as an example of putting words in someone's mouth. When I did it, I told you that was why. When Darth Rotor misunderstood, I explained it again. Now you refuse to see that, preferring your own fabricated version of events. I am not surprised.

Biker Dude.. Read revelation 17 for the fall of America as a start, but if you want to be spoon fed exact word for word prophecy, get a life... and keep riding.

For it is onl;y for the discerning and the intelligent and the discerning not for false skeptics that love false wind of freedom blowing through their hair

I'll read it and get back with you. I don't understand that last sentence fragment. Could you revise that using better grammar?

 

[Foster Zygote]

To reiterate:

Djj, why did you change the dates regarding your end times prophecy? If you had to alter your earlier prediction because it was incorrect then how are we to trust your current prophecy? How many strikes does a prophet get before he can be called a false prophet? Why do you ignore all posts that address the inconsistencies within your claims? Were you honest enough to revise your website with the correct distance to the moon?

 

[Kochanski]

Back to pure foolish childish behavior again Kockanski. It seems your try at civility didn't last.

When you speak sense instead of nonsense I will treat it in a serious fashion. You are speaking drivel, so I see no reason to take you seriously.

"No trains will be sold after the magazines have left the depot"

 

[RenaissanceBiker]

From the King James Bible, Revelations 17

1 And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgment of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters:
2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication.
3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy, having seven heads and ten horns.
4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full of abominations and filthiness of her fornication:
5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great admiration.
7 And the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which hath the seven heads and ten horns.
8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.
10 And there are seven kings: five are fallen, and one is, and the other is not yet come; and when he cometh, he must continue a short space.
11 And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goeth into perdition.
12 And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings, which have received no kingdom as yet; but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
13 These have one mind, and shall give their power and strength unto the beast.
14 These shall make war with the Lamb, and the Lamb shall overcome them: for he is Lord of lords, and King of kings: and they that are with him are called, and chosen, and faithful.
15 And he saith unto me, The waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations, and tongues.
16 And the ten horns which thou sawest upon the beast, these shall hate the whore, and shall make her desolate and naked, and shall eat her flesh, and burn her with fire.
17 For God hath put in their hearts to fulfil his will, and to agree, and give their kingdom unto the beast, until the words of God shall be fulfilled.
18 And the woman which thou sawest is that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.

This describes the fall of America?

 

[Beleth]

On August 1, 2008, there will be a total eclipse of the Sun.

The path of totality will start in the Nunavut Territory of Canada, travel north to the very top of Greenland, miss Spitzbergen, hit the central area of Novaya Zemlya, cut a big path through central Russia, skirt the west side of Mongolia, and pass through China, where it will end somewhere close to Xiangfan.

DJJ, when you can find a prophecy in the Bible that is that clear, down to the day and place names, let us know.

Meanwhile, if called for, I will prophecy the eclipses of

• 2009 Jul 22
• 2010 Jul 11
• 2012 Nov 13
• 2015 Mar 20
• 2016 Mar 09
• 2017 Aug 21
• 2019 Jul 02
• 2020 Dec 14
• 2021 Dec 04
• 2024 Apr 08
• 2026 Aug 12
• 2027 Aug 02
• 2028 Jul 22
• 2030 Nov 25
• 2033 Mar 30
• 2034 Mar 20
• 2035 Sep 02
• 2037 Jul 13
• 2038 Dec 26
• 2039 Dec 15
• 2041 Apr 30
• 2042 Apr 20
• 2043 Apr 09
• 2044 Aug 23
• 2045 Aug 12
• 2046 Aug 02
• 2048 Dec 05

in just as much detail.

 

[Foster Zygote]

From the King James Bible, Revelations 17



This describes the fall of America?

Or a party at Brando's house.

 

[Thomas1016]

Misconceptions

I mean, America has started a war in Afghanistan, Iraq, helped America with Lebanon, appeased Egypt and Jordan with gifts, and started a war in Somalia, so going after the next Arab domino country Iran is hardly beyond their modus operandi.

Afghanistan - Actually America didn't start the war we just helped the northern alliance retake Afghanistan back from the Taliban which never would have happened if the Taliban had not sheltered Osama bin laden who declared war on us. Or perhaps you’re of the conspiracy mindset that we staged 9/11? Maybe it was a Jewish, American plot to take us to war?

Iraq - Lots of mistakes defiantly were made here on both sides that pretty much worked together to bring this war about. The first mistake was during the first gulf war when we didn’t take saddam out of power then. Instead we stopped then were critized for not taking him out resulting in over 250,000 Iraqis being killed during his crack down on the shi'a. Saddam made a huge mistake in playing games with the U.N. resulting in 100% of the major intelligence agencies of the world (Russian, American, French, British, Chinese, ect.) believing that he had weps of mass destruction still hidden away.

The U.S. made a big mistake in their approach; first Saddam had deliberately made himself a thorn in our side. That thorn started to fester from the time the 1st gulf war ended and saddam started playing his games. It finally came to a point that the U.S. looked for a reason to take him out and threw any objectivity out the window. Hence when certain Iraqi defectors started to sell false info. The U.S. bought into it hook line and sinker because we were looking for a reason we were tired of that thorn festering still in our side. Saddam though still holds the greatest responsibility because no matter what the U.S. believed we never could have gone into Iraq if Saddam had not played his games with the U.N.

After we went into Iraq the U.S. made another huge strategic blunder. It allowed unproven battle tactics to be used with no flexibility to change them. Meaning we relyed on small numbers of troops with vastly superior weapons to pacify a population. We needed to to use the old tactics of larger forces to overwhelm opposition (Instead of 130k troops we should have used 500k troops) also we should not have dissolved the old Iraqi army.

would that have stopped all insurgency....no. but it would have made for a stronger central government and such huge casualties on the insurgency that it couldn’t have gotten the steam it does now. Also it would have made the surrounding countries (Iran, Syria) think twice on how much support to give the insurgency.

Alought of the conspiracy people have said the only reason we went into Iraq is for the oil but the there is a fallacy in that belief which is 80% of what little oil leaves Iraq actually goes to Europe and Asia.

Lebanon - I assume you actually meant in your statement that we help Israel in regards to Lebanon. In one aspect this could be true in a way because we do supply Israel with weapons and money though Israel actually makes about 70% of their own weapons. Also if you want Israel stop going into Lebanon then have Iran stop using its proxy Hezbollah to attack Israel.

Jordan/Egypt - Hmm, not sure what your trying to say here on one hand you criticize the U.S. as being war like but then criticize it for rewarding those that seek peace, you can't have it both ways.


Iran - Here is one you did not mention but plays a far more important role in how things are going to shape up in the middle east. Iran is the new thorn in the side of not just to the U.S. but the world this time. Iran is playing similar games to what Saddam played and it is all but inevitable that BOTH SIDES will underestimate the others responses causing a major confrontation. Iran with its use of proxies to attack Israel, it's support of the insurgency in Iraq, it's hostage taking of other countries sailors, (which we have only ourselves to blame for acting so impotently during the hostage crisis in 1979-1980) the continued games it plays with the U.N. on it's nuclear facilities, ect. The U.S. will finally get to a point where it won’t tolerate anymore thorn in their side and find a reason to take Iran out. I don't think the U.S. administration fully realizes that saber rattling will not work with Iran because it is a country controlled by religious extremists who could care less about human life but only what they believe will get them into their version of heaven.