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Dylan Says No Mas

pomeroo

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Dylan has found his voice! The man who had very little to say last December has definite thoughts on the prospect of absorbing another humiliating beating. He writes:

"So I can listen to you babble in that same condescending tone for another hour and rattle off the same official version of events one after another?

Mark was at least nice off camera. You have the personality of wallpaper.

No thanks.

We're also located approximately 3,000 miles away. Why don't you and Marky Mark take a road trip?

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"These people DEEPLY disrespect experts..."
-Mark Roberts, TOUR GUIDE, 9/9/2006

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"...[WTC7] starts from below... They have simply blown away columns. This is controlled demolition. A team of experts did this. This is professional work, without any doubt."
-Danny Jowenko, Controlled Demolition expert for over 20 years, Owner of Jowenko Explosieve Demolitie B.V., Dutch TV, 9/2006

"I hope this information has helped you to understand that building 7 was not brought down by controlled demolition. Please feel free to contact me with any questions. I have much more information should you desire it."
-Mark Roberts, New York City TOUR GUIDE, 9/14/2006, to DANNY JOWENKO

"You guys win one. You have an actual explosive expert on record. Congrats. You've made a fool out of what sounds like a very nice and accomplished gentleman."
-Jay Ref, 9/14/2006, http://www.nineeleven.co.uk/board/viewtopi...p?p=23331#23331

"DANNY JOWENKO MANIPULATED BY 9/11 DENIERS"
-Post at JREF

"Absolutely did not [come down from fire]. Absolutely. I looked at the building, I looked at the construction, so no, absolutely not."
-Danny Jowenko, 2/22/2007, PumpItOut
http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/danny_jowenko_022207.mp3

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"Who's disrespecting who? "


I guess the poor kid really was terrified by Mark. I was quite friendly to him and Jason off-camera. I don't remember Mark making any effort to be ingratiating, but so what?

Well, to be fair, they smell the big bucks in Hollywood. They certainly don't need to have their intellectual bankruptcy exposed again on a tiny cable show.
 
pomeroo said:
"So I can listen to you babble in that same condescending tone for another hour and rattle off the same official version of events one after another?
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There's a reason why all you remember was the sound of other people talking, Dylan.

You didn't say anything!

Remember? You just sat there in a coma-like state watching Jason get shelled.

Think of this latest debate offer as a chance for you to actually debate this time.
 
Why do they always say official explanation. What official is there, if I see plane parts at Pentagon, if I read FDNY quotes and know WTC 7 was going to collapse, if I know that people didn't see or describe one single bomb, if I know that thermate is not an explosive.

No, that's not called official explanation. That's simply called the way it is.
 
Alareth said:
3000 miles away ...

I thought they were in upstate New York?
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They're trying to sell their crap in California.

Last I heard Dylan was trying to "hold on to content" for the FC (ie. not ditch the lamest stuff).
 
Can you blame him for not wanting to go on?

Last time i remember the host, Ron, saying something to the effect "aye Mark is here to prove everything in loose change is a lie."


Why, after already appearing on the show, would you want to do the same thing over again. Just to meet at the same disagreements again?

Hardfire debate was enjoyable. But id rather see other people on the show rather than just Mark and Loose Change.
 
Hyperviolet said:
Can you blame him for not wanting to go on?

Last time i remember the host, Ron, saying something to the effect "aye Mark is here to prove everything in loose change is a lie."


Why, after already appearing on the show, would you want to do the same thing over again. Just to meet at the same disagreements again?

Hardfire debate was enjoyable. But id rather see other people on the show rather than just Mark and Loose Change.
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I wouldn't mind seeing other fantasists on Hardfire either. The problem is, these people are not exactly knocking down the door to appear. You'd almost think they were reluctant to subject their well-researched theories and deeply-felt convictions to serious scrutiny.
 
pomeroo said:
I wouldn't mind seeing other fantasists on Hardfire either. The problem is, these people are not exactly knocking down the door to appear. You'd almost think they were reluctant to subject their well-researched theories and deeply-felt convictions to serious scrutiny.
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David Ray Griffin vs Mark Roberts

That I'd like to see.
 
Hyperviolet said:
Can you blame him for not wanting to go on?

Last time i remember the host, Ron, saying something to the effect "aye Mark is here to prove everything in loose change is a lie."


Why, after already appearing on the show, would you want to do the same thing over again. Just to meet at the same disagreements again?

Hardfire debate was enjoyable. But id rather see other people on the show rather than just Mark and Loose Change.
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Yeah, but that could hardly have been a surprise.

In fact, you should try and find the thread over at LCF in which avery had his tail in the air prior to the debate.

That's the strange thing about avery. There has been the hardfire debate andthe bbc documentary, both of which he looked EXTREMELY bad in, and yet prior to the airing of both he was sanguine and cocksure.

I think that tells us something about the virus in confortable shoes.
 
uk_dave said:
There has been the hardfire debate andthe bbc documentary, both of which he looked EXTREMELY bad in
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The "oh crap, now what do I do?" look on Dylan's his face when the BBC reporter told him what the coroner really said....that was priceless. :D
 
pomeroo said:
I wouldn't mind seeing other fantasists on Hardfire either. The problem is, these people are not exactly knocking down the door to appear. You'd almost think they were reluctant to subject their well-researched theories and deeply-felt convictions to serious scrutiny.
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Ron, i like what ive seen of your show.

However, i think a big problem is your handling of these people. By that i mean, referring them as fantasists, twoofers, morons or whatever name-calling you can come up with. People like to be treated respectfully, regardless how much you disagree with their opinions.

Again, its a shame because on the show you actually are very fair, let your opposition respond so on so forth... but this petty name calling and general disrespect only makes people reluctant to appear on an otherwise good show.
 
Hyperviolet said:
However, i think a big problem is your handling of these people. By that i mean, referring them as fantasists, twoofers, morons or whatever name-calling you can come up with. People like to be treated respectfully, regardless how much you disagree with their opinions.
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Hm. Just like Dylan treats Wally Miller with respect? Or the hundreds of others he implicates in a 9/11 conspiracy with no evidence?

When the truth movement itself acts respectful, then it will get treated with respect.
 
two wrongs do not make a right, they usually just end up getting a JREFer into the mud with the swine.

TAM:)
 
Hyperviolet said:
Ron, i like what ive seen of your show.

However, i think a big problem is your handling of these people. By that i mean, referring them as fantasists, twoofers, morons or whatever name-calling you can come up with. People like to be treated respectfully, regardless how much you disagree with their opinions.

Again, its a shame because on the show you actually are very fair, let your opposition respond so on so forth... but this petty name calling and general disrespect only makes people reluctant to appear on an otherwise good show.
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I'm glad you've enjoyed the shows. You should understand that I would never engage in name-calling on the air. The spectacle of a host trying to embarrass his guests is rather unappealing. My behavior on these blogs is another story entirely. When dealing with faceless entities who are hurling baseless accusations at the grieving families of murder victims, it's very easy to forget about good manners. I must admit, in all candor, that I really have absolutely zero respect for the people who promote these pernicious, false, and truly stupid myths about the jihadist attacks of 9/11/01. Such types don't qualify as worthy opposition.
 
Hyperviolet has a good point. I certainly can be respectful with people like him, and people like Russell Pickering and Hierosis, but there's no way I'll ever treat Killtown and his ilk with respect. These guys are beyond help.
 
John Blonn said:
Hm. Just like Dylan treats Wally Miller with respect? Or the hundreds of others he implicates in a 9/11 conspiracy with no evidence?

When the truth movement itself acts respectful, then it will get treated with respect.
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You have completely missed the point.

You are free to disrespect people all you want.
Just don't be surprised when they arent lining up to be on your show.
 
Hyperviolet said:
You have completely missed the point.

You are free to disrespect people all you want.
Just don't be surprised when they arent lining up to be on your show.
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With all due respect, I'm not missing anything. When your position compels you to claim that thousands of eyewitnesses are lying or deluded, that a grieving mother is lying when she describes an agonizing last conversation with her son, that all the demolition specialists in the world don't understand what they're seeing--well, you can't expect gentle treatment. I'm not the least bit surprised that conspiracists are reluctant to defend their fantasies. Preaching to the choir is much easier.
 
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