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Mohammed Atta's luggage

Arkan_Wolfshade said:
Careful, you're showing your age. I barely remember those commercials.
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Actually, I wasn't referring to, nor do I know of any such commercials - I just thought it was just a humorous tag ~ now, do tell! Was there really a "samsonite gorilla"?

ETA: Seeing the tag and not knowing its relevance, I just thought that it was referring to the Samsonite company as they are well known as luggage manufacturers and the "gorilla" part, I thought the OP just made that up as a left handed reference to the heft and weight that the CFs ascribe to every little thing they think is an anomoly, even when it is not.
 
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LashL said:
Actually, I wasn't referring to, nor do I know of any such commercials - I just thought it was just a humorous tag ~ now, do tell! Was there really a "samsonite gorilla"?
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whoops :boxedin:

In May, 2005, Samsonite announced the relocation of its marketing and sales offices from a building at 91 Main Street in Warren, Rhode Island, to Mansfield, Massachusetts, 27 miles north, effective September 1 in that year. Samsonite had maintained offices in Warren for at least 26 years. The building had been decorated with an inflatable gorilla three stories tall (approximately 30 feet), which remained in place along with a Samsonite retail shop at the Main Street building.[1] The gorilla became the company's mascot via an ad campaign developed in 1969.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samsonite
 
LashL said:
Ohhhhhhh, now I get it. In 1969, however, I certainly wasn't paying attention to television commercials :)
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I wasn't around then, they either continued it for quite a while, or they've used them in Ed McMann's Bloopers and Practical Jokes or some similar TV show.
 
Hang on... 1969, big gorilla..... Why didn't I see this eariler, it's the whistleblowers telling us that Peter Jackson directed the fake moonlandings!
 
T.A.M. said:
Simple, which is more believeable.

1. Atta, having never crashed a je airliner before, thought his suicide note might survive, so decided to write it and pack it.

2. The evil Cabal, who planted intact passports of some of the hijackers in the rubble, decided rather than do that, with a few burn marks, a few tears, to plant it like a rosetta stone, so that people like CLE could say "well that seems pecular".

TAM:)
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Indeed. I'll take #1 for $1000, Alex.

Seriously though, some of the things that conspiracy fantasists view as anomolous, I view as nothing of the sort. This is one of them.

That's not to say that there aren't anomolies. There are. There always are when unprecedented and unexpected events occur. It would be highly suspicious to me if there weren't any anomolies. But conspiracists blow things out of all rational proportion in their efforts to make it appear as though normal things are somehow abnormal, and in their efforts to make it appear as though there is some rational basis for their irrational beliefs.
 
Taking a look at it, I see it was dated 1996, so it's also possible that he just carried it with him where ever he went and may not have even thought about the fact it was in his luggage.
 
I know the idea of menstruating women being dirty was something that was prominent in pagan times, so much so that the menstruating woman had to live in a shack that wasn't close to the house. When Islam came in, that practice died out.
 
The Silver Shadow said:
Since when were pregnant or menstruating women considered dirty in Islam?
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Koran 2:222. "And they ask you about menstruation. Say: It is a discomfort; therefore keep aloof from the women during the menstrual discharge and do not go near them until they have become clean; then when they have cleansed themselves, go in to them as Allah has commanded you; surely Allah loves those who turn much (to Him), and He loves those who purify themselves."
 
negativ said:
Koran 2:222. "And they ask you about menstruation. Say: It is a discomfort; therefore keep aloof from the women during the menstrual discharge and do not go near them until they have become clean; then when they have cleansed themselves, go in to them as Allah has commanded you; surely Allah loves those who turn much (to Him), and He loves those who purify themselves."
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Sounds like a male plan to avoid women during the nadir of their hormonal cycle to me. Smart males :) .

By the way, I remember the Samsonite gorilla commercials as originals. I readily admit to being an old fart. (but comely)
 
Just dragging this back up here, to give an update (old lost fact) that when Yosri Fouda visited Ramzi BAS and KSM in 2002, they claimed they had Atta's actual will, possibly the one he read out in the Afghan Farm video with Jarrah. When Fouda asked for it, they wanted to keep it and 'treasure it for a while'.

I believe Fouda actually saw it with his own eyes too.
 
gumboot said:
I equate the crashes to firing a carrot at an industrial cheesegrater using one of those tennis-ball firing machines.

-Gumboot
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I wonder if anyone on the impact floors or even on the plane itself had a ham and cheese sandwich with them.

We wouldn't want any of that pork to get mixed with Muslim remains, now would we?




















ok, that wasn't very nice, but I couldn't help it.
 
Alferd_Packer said:
Oh, and BTW, I thought the luggage was left in the rental car at the airport.
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You're getting bits mixed up, Atta's lugage got routed onto a later flight because their plane was late getting in. The stuff in the car was associated with one of the other groups I believe.
 
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