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Rosie O'Donnell Libels The FDNY

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Considering the fact that Rosie upped the ante and came right out and accused the FDNY of complicity in 9/11 I thought her lies deserved a separate thread.

From her blog entry of March 15:


at 5 30 pm
9 11 2001
wtc7 collapsed
for the third time in history
fire brought down a steel building
reducing it to rubble
hold on folks
here we go
• The fires in WTC 7 were not evenly distributed, so a perfect collapse was impossible.
• Silverstein said to the fire department commander “the smartest thing to do is pull it.”
• Firefighters withdrawing from the area stated the building was going to “blow up”.
• The roof of WTC 7 visibly crumbled and the building collapsed perfectly into its footprint.
• Molten steel and partially evaporated steel members were found in the debris.

[WTC 7] contained offices of the FBI, Department of Defense, IRS (which contained prodigious amounts of corporate tax fraud, including Enron’s), US Secret Service, Securities & Exchange Commission (with more stock fraud records), and Citibank’s Salomon Smith Barney, the Mayor’s Office of Emergency Management and many other financial institutions. [Online Journal]

The SEC has not quantified the number of active cases in which substantial files were destroyed [by the collapse of WTC 7]. Reuters news service and the Los Angeles Times published reports estimating them at 3,000 to 4,000. They include the agency’s major inquiry into the manner in which investment banks divvied up hot shares of initial public offerings during the high-tech boom. …”Ongoing investigations at the New York SEC will be dramatically affected because so much of their work is paper-intensive,” said Max Berger of New York’s Bernstein Litowitz Berger & Grossmann. “This is a disaster for these cases.” [New York Lawyer]
Citigroup says some information that the committee is seeking [about WorldCom] was destroyed in the Sept. 11 terror attack on the World Trade Center. Salomon had offices in 7 World Trade Center, one of the buildings that collapsed in the aftermath of the attack. The bank says that back-up tapes of corporate emails from September 1998 through December 2000 were stored at the building and destroyed in the attack. [TheStreet]

Inside [WTC 7 was] the US Secret Service’s largest field office with more than 200 employees. …”All the evidence that we stored at 7 World Trade, in all our cases, went down with the building,” according to US Secret Service Special Agent David Curran. [TechTV]

lets start here
ok…go slow
remember 2 breathe
use google
 
Wow, she has provided totally new evidence that has proven an inside job beyond any doubt. There was me thinking she would re-hash utterly nonsensical rubbish!
 
Considering the fact that Rosie upped the ante and came right out and accused the FDNY of complicity in 9/11 I thought her lies deserved a separate thread.

From her blog entry of March 15:


at 5 30 pm
9 11 2001
wtc7 collapsed
for the third time in history
fire brought down a steel building
reducing it to rubble
hold on folks
here we go
• The fires in WTC 7 were not evenly distributed, so a perfect collapse was impossible.
• Silverstein said to the fire department commander “the smartest thing to do is pull it.”
• Firefighters withdrawing from the area stated the building was going to “blow up”.
• The roof of WTC 7 visibly crumbled and the building collapsed perfectly into its footprint.
• Molten steel and partially evaporated steel members were found in the debris.

[WTC 7] contained offices of the FBI, Department of Defense, IRS (which contained prodigious amounts of corporate tax fraud, including Enron’s), US Secret Service, Securities & Exchange Commission (with more stock fraud records), and Citibank’s Salomon Smith Barney, the Mayor’s Office of Emergency Management and many other financial institutions. [Online Journal]

The SEC has not quantified the number of active cases in which substantial files were destroyed [by the collapse of WTC 7]. Reuters news service and the Los Angeles Times published reports estimating them at 3,000 to 4,000. They include the agency’s major inquiry into the manner in which investment banks divvied up hot shares of initial public offerings during the high-tech boom. …”Ongoing investigations at the New York SEC will be dramatically affected because so much of their work is paper-intensive,” said Max Berger of New York’s Bernstein Litowitz Berger & Grossmann. “This is a disaster for these cases.” [New York Lawyer]
Citigroup says some information that the committee is seeking [about WorldCom] was destroyed in the Sept. 11 terror attack on the World Trade Center. Salomon had offices in 7 World Trade Center, one of the buildings that collapsed in the aftermath of the attack. The bank says that back-up tapes of corporate emails from September 1998 through December 2000 were stored at the building and destroyed in the attack. [TheStreet]

Inside [WTC 7 was] the US Secret Service’s largest field office with more than 200 employees. …”All the evidence that we stored at 7 World Trade, in all our cases, went down with the building,” according to US Secret Service Special Agent David Curran. [TechTV]

lets start here
ok…go slow
remember 2 breathe
use google

Again with fire brought down the buildings. Again with pull it. I'm beginning to believe that Idiocracy is a documentary
 
I notice comments are turned off on her blog. Anyone know if that's always been the case?
 
I asked her the following:

I see you've now joined the "truth" movement, and are accusing the FDNY of complicity in the destruction of WTC7. Perhaps you'd like to discuss this? http://72.32.2.238/forumlive/forumindex.php

Doubt she'll show up or reply to me, but I had to do something about this idiocy.
 
I doubt Rosie would allow comments.

1. She would get too many comments being a celebrity.

2. Truthers don't allow dissent. We can see Rosie doesn't not allow people to disagree with her.

Rosie is a lunatic and an idiot. I wish she moved out of the US.
 
Wow, she's not getting any smarter, is she? In addition to everything else she got wrong and doesn't understand, there's this:

The SEC has not quantified the number of active cases in which substantial files were destroyed [by the collapse of WTC 7]. Reuters news service and the Los Angeles Times published reports estimating them at 3,000 to 4,000. They include the agency’s major inquiry into the manner in which investment banks divvied up hot shares of initial public offerings during the high-tech boom. …”Ongoing investigations at the New York SEC will be dramatically affected because so much of their work is paper-intensive,” said Max Berger of New York’s Bernstein Litowitz Berger & Grossmann. “This is a disaster for these cases.” [New York Lawyer]

The SEC did roughly quantify those losses, which was reported in the same article that Rosie cites:

Excerpt from "Federal Agencies: Re-creating Lost Files" New York Law Journal September 14, 2001
“Clearly what happened was a severe blow,” Wayne Carlin, the SEC’s Northeast regional director, told the Washington Post. “It will slow us down, and we will need some amount of time to recover.”

The office, which enforces SEC regulations, lost files on about 300 pending investigations, including a major inquiry into the manner in which investment banks divvied up hot shares of initial public offerings during the high-tech boom.

Mr. Carlin said there were no plans to drop any pending matters. “We lost a lot of stuff, though some of it is reconstructible,” he said. “Anybody who is under our investigation would be making a mistake if they thought they were in the clear.”

The SEC will probably be able to get new copies of documents from the parties that turned them over initially, Mr. Carlin said.

Barry Barbash, a partner with the New York and Washington, D.C. offices of Shearman & Sterling and former director of the division of investment management at the SEC, said that most of the securities firms have back-up systems.

“It’s really the [SEC’s] internally generated notes and correspondence that will prove most problematic,” Mr. Barbash said.

He added that the agency’s ability to reconstruct an investigation will also depend on how far along it was. If the New York office was working with the Washington, D.C. or other offices, those offices would probably have back up records, he noted.

Mr. Barbash said that it was his recollection that the SEC did not have a systematic record retention policy where important documents were copied or saved on computer files.

But he expressed confidence that the SEC would get through the crisis. “They care about what they do. They are not going to let the destruction of a building stand in the way of that,” he said.
I wonder when we'll see those crack "truth" investigators come up with a list of SEC cases that had to be abandoned because of the collapse of building 7.

:con2:
 
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I wanna see Gravy on The View!
I demand a soft-focus lens!

Actually, I am going to contact Ms. O'Donnell to see if she'd be willing to sit down for an hour or two to discuss these things.
 
The phenomenology I find telling is this:

The Idiot Movement does gain new people every once in a while, but it never gains new arguments. As a result, it never gets any smarter.

Over time, this flow of morons out of culture at large and into the Idiot Movement manifests as a net decrease in the Idiot Movement's relative intelligence compared to the rest of us.

It's been at this for five and a half years.

Explains a lot, really.
 
She also has a link to the scholars for troof on her page.
 
Truthers don't allow dissent. We can see Rosie doesn't not allow people to disagree with her.

How true. Her "Ask Ro" feature is working however. I've politely debunked each of her points and I'm going back everyday.
 
Someone needs to start a countdown to how much longer before she get's axed from the view. It's inevitable, isn't it? She can't keep behaving the way she is wihtout them finally deciding they don't want to put up with the hassle.
 
I am honeslty not shocked at this. Ever since coming on The View she has shouted out one baseless claim after another. She also follows that John Conner(sp) guy.
 
I kind of feel bad for Leftists (which I am not) because once high profile activists like her adopt such ridiculous ideas, this tend to discredit their entire efforts.

It certainly doesn't really encourage me to listen to them, since I know it eventually leads to such insane extremes.
 
I am honeslty not shocked at this. Ever since coming on The View she has shouted out one baseless claim after another. She also follows that John Conner(sp) guy.
I really did used to enjoy her humor - and her acting. I even supported (and still do) her decision to come out.

But I no longer enjoy what she now passes off as humor but I can only see as indifference and cruelty - and, if she actually believes the "truther" liars, ignorance/stupidity. I miss the old Rosie, I loathe the new one. And I can't tell which is or was the real one - if there even is a real one.
 

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