Prophecy Timeline Challenge

Davidjayjordan said:
Again brethren and non brethren.... notice how Bjorn, has asked a sincere question from his research.

It may be questioning but that is definitely allowable and definitely honourable.
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You know I am getting oh so very tired of all the religious woos insisting that we tug our forlock and say "please enlighten us oh master, you know so much more than we do" and if we don't they whine and moan and stomp their little feet like children and threaten to report us to the mods.

I have no problem respecting religious individuals, there are many here that I do respect, but for the blow-hard "great-I-am" and "I-know-all-and bow-and-scrape-and-be-grateful-for-my-wisdom" fools I say GET OVER YOURSELF.

DJJ where do you get off determining what questions are allowable? This is not your website, you do not control what is said here. You have come to a skeptics forum. It is a place where people are allowed to speak their minds freely, unlike many other places that choose delete unwanted posts and ban people for expressing dissenting opinions.

Davidjayjordan said:
But the first clue to getting prophecy is take the overall evuidence, that is repeated opver and over and over and over again and again as your basics, rather than one verse as your opinion or dogma.
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What overall evidence? Words in very old books that express vague notions? Vague notions with no timeline given for these events so that believers can pick and choose things and be amazed when they can fit the words to events they know? That is not evidence at all.

Davidjayjordan said:
For the Bible's truths, the very basics were set down by the Lord to give us a starting point and the future cohesively.... and all his prophets had to speak as one if they spoke via the Lord, and what you find out is that their prophecies do in fact melt together as they spoke their particular prophecy but it fits together with the whole.
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The bible was written by men not by any god. What proof do you have that prophets were speaking via the lord? And sorry, but the bible is not proof of that.

Davidjayjordan said:
Do not get caught up in a tree, when you first have to see the forest. Its exactly the same as other types of KNOWLEDGE, a truth is not segregated but integrated with all other truths and laws and principles. We have to go by the overwhelming preponderances of truths.
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Ooooh the whole is greater than the sum of its parts, yawn.

I see no truths in your musty old book. Lots of pretty words. Lots of horrible stories that point to a very petulant, vain, mean, uncaring and obnoxious sky daddy.

Definitely no truths there.
 
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Darth Rotor said:
Uh, Paul, prophecy tends to get written down. A book is as good a place to find it as any other, being written and all that. ;)

DR
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But DJJ thinks it is written by a so-called god, no man has touch it. :rolleyes:

Paul

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Dear DJJ,

You have exhorted the false skeptics here, and me in particular, to search out the trvth.

I have followed your advice and have now found it: http://my666.boom.ru/666_en.html

It contains the revealed TRVTH of God's Word. And the true prophecies of the Book of Revelation.

You are apparently quite WRONG in YOUR foolish BELIEFS. You do not UNDERSTAND!!

Argue with the unnamed author, not me.

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Paulhoff said:
But DJJ thinks it is written by a so-called god, no man has touch it. :rolleyes:

Paul

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False Skeptics that aren't looking for answers and truths, despise prophecy and anyone that says they know the future simply because they are so aligned to this present world.

For those that love this present world and its system LOVE the STATUS QUO and so defend it to the hilt as that is who feds them. Hence they despise prophesy, just like so many other church people.

They are putting all their marbles in with their governments lies and deceptions and the pretense that these temporal governments will last as long as their personal lives last.

Sorry, they are just too fearful to step beyond what the majority believes as then they would have to have courage and guts and know something and stand for something. It is much easier to believe nothing but what their governments tell them to believe.

SEE True Skeptics are conspiracy theorists thread on the Conspiracy Board, as you are living proof of the opposite.

And so Paul, when the future prophecy comes to past, you will be responsible for not being prepared. Your choice, your responsibility as you all seem so comfortable in believeing your Western Masters.

I prefer the Lord of Lords.
 
DISCOVERY OF THE ARK DECEPTION

Now back to true prophecy, as the Jewish priesthood has to have ALL the ingrediants for temple worship right after the signing of the Covenant.

Obviously they can;t build their temple now til there is peace, and obviously without outside force the Israeli P.M will not seek peace with the Palestininas. They have to have a Covenant to secure the PEACE, and that only comes after the next war, when the whole world will be tetering on complete meltdown.

Anyway after the Peace Conference signed by TEN, then the Jew3ish priesthood has to say they found the lost ark of Moses to validate their superiority over others and try to validate their temple services as valid religiously. Because a temple without the ARK and the Spirit of God would obviously be an empty gesture. Hence they must con the world into believeing they have the ARK.

So they will make a quick parade past a few cameras and suggest they found the ARK.

No one can prove different.... as it will be kept secret, undercover and so the fraud won;t be found out. The replica should be quite good, but of course the Spirit of the Lord won't be above it.

So look for this con soon or right after the Peace Covenant is signed. For it is integral to them performing their scarifices before the Temple.

Mind you we do, find it as it was hidden for us Christians, and we are in need of it and the continuance of the Exodus to the wilderness, where we shall be protected and fed for 1260 days.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/ArkandTabernacle.html
 
Davidjayjordan said:
1. They are putting all their marbles in with their governments lies and deceptions and the pretense that these temporal governments will last as long as their personal lives last.

2. I prefer the Lord of Lords.
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1. No one here puts all their so-called marbles in their government, geeeeee.

2. There is no lord of lords.

Paul

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Davidjayjordan said:
So they will make a quick parade past a few cameras and suggest they found the ARK.

No one can prove different....
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If this were to happen there would be immense pressure to make it available for testing like the shroud of turin and the ostensible ossuaries of Jesus. If it were not made available it would have zero effect on non-believers and a small impact on believers (they believe any way so what difference does it make?).

Yawn.
 
RandFan said:
If this were to happen there would be immense pressure to make it available for testing like the shroud of turin and the ostensible ossuaries of Jesus. If it were not made available it would have zero effect on non-believers and a small impact on believers (they believe any way so what difference does it make?).

Yawn.
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rand, you are so naive.

The church tried the con of the Shroud of Turin... to try and get people to worship the church system

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/ShroudofTurin.html

The ossuaries are also surely cons.... so we have to be able as true skeptics to see through the cons....and get to the truths.

But NO, the Jews do not care about validation, they will claim it is too holy and pure for scientists to validate...and so will take it un touched except by their holy hands into the Holy of Holies, that won;tbe so holy because the Lord is not there. Rand, you just don;t know your bibler history that well. That's O.k. but to study this as no one will touch the false ARK. and no one except the pure of heart will touch our real ARK in the wilderness.

But at least your query and response, shows you are following the thread Rand.. Thanks
 
Dear responders, if you want a possible answer to your queries, just follow the thread and the logic and reason, and scriptures involved rather than being Gord like, or Paulian in nature. Thanks.

But even they can sometimes get a response if they tune in slightly and the aswer might be of vlaue for others.. Hoping to hear from you.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
rand, you are so naive.
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? Why?

The church tried the con of the Shroud of Turin... to try and get people to worship the church system
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Yes, and it only works on believers. The ARK, should it happen as you suggest, would have the same effect.

The ossuaries are also surely cons...
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And also only works for the believers. The ARK, should it happen as you suggest, would have the same effect.

But NO, the Jews do not care about validation, they will claim it is too holy and pure for scientists to validate...and so will take it un touched except by their holy hands into the Holy of Holies, that won;tbe so holy because the Lord is not there. Rand, you just don;t know your bibler history that well. That's O.k. but to study this as no one will touch the false ARK. and no one except the pure of heart will touch our real ARK in the wilderness.
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This is only in your head. You have no basis for making this claim. Making claims is not argument. There is no reason for anyone to assume you are correct.

But at least your query and response, shows you are following the thread Rand.. Thanks
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You are welcome DJJ. I wish you would also follow along. You skip most of the logically valid argument. That's unfortunate but it really isn't surprising.

Thanks,

RandFan
 
Davidjayjordan said:
Dear responders, if you want a possible answer to your queries...
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What we want is for you to act like a reasonable person and respond to our questions in a sincere fashion. If you sincerly want anyone to take you seriously then that is what you should do. Until then it is unlikely that anyone will accept your claims or blindly follow your rhetoric. This is a skeptics forum.
 
Davidjayjordan said:
rand, you are so naive.

The church tried the con of the Shroud of Turin... to try and get people to worship the church system.
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No, you are the naive one, the church, as you like put it, is not just one institution. There are thousands of different churches and leaders of each church.

Paul

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Davidjayjordan said:
Dear responders, if you want a possible answer to your queries, just follow the thread and the logic and reason, and scriptures involved rather than being Gord like, or Paulian in nature. Thanks.
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Youse guys. Stop being so "Gord like". :o

After all, there no hope for me, but maybe you can save your soles. :confused:
 
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