Breaking News! 9/11 Mastermind confesses

Funny one. Written by John Albanese on 911 blogger.
That's a nice list, neatly summarizing troofer dogma and confirming that thousands of people must be in on this conspiracy you guys fantasize about... and that no one has blown the whistle on.
 
There is a chance KSM exaggerated his claims about events other than 9/11.

Well let's have a look at the claims.

His position in Al Qaeda

1) Swore Allegiance to OBL
2) Member of AQ Council
3) Media Contact for AQ
4) Directed 9/11 for OBL
5) Operational commander for AQ operations worldwide.
6) Directly in charge of AQ's WMD development team
7) Was Commander of the Martyr's House responsible for training and execution of operations.


Why would he have need to exaggerate these, we already knew or suspected most of it.

I have separated the operations he listed into 4 groups. Those that were done and worked, and we know about. Those that we know about, but failed. Those that never progressed beyond his financing or sending teams to look into it and those that never got much off the drawing board. I've left the numbering the same as in the statement.


Successful

1 – 1993 WTC attack
2 – 9/11
3 – Classified (Beheading of Daniel Pearl?)
4 – Shoe Bomb attempt
5 – Filka Island Operation
6 – Bali Nightclub Bombing
21 – Mombassa Hotel Bombing


A total of 7 actual successful attacks, all of which AQ was at least suspected, if not known. It doesn't however include notiable attacks such as the US Embasy Bombing in Kenya, the USS Cole, the Saudi Arabian US Barracks attacks, or the Australian Embassy bombing in Indonesia.

Unsuccessful

22 – El-Al missile attack (Al Qaeda already claimed responsibility)
28 – Assassination attempt on President Clinton (AQ was suspected already)
29 – Assassination attempt on Pope John Paul 2nd (KSM was already the main suspect for it)
30 – Assassination attempt on President Musarraf (The group that did this was already beleived to have Al Quaeda finance backing and training)

These four were all suspected to have been supported and directed by AQ already, and in at least one case KSM was already the main suspect for organising it.

Surveillance of Finance only

20 – Israel surveillance and target location
23 – South Korea target location and surveillance
24 – Providing financial support for Turkey attacks
27 – Bojinka Operation


We can't prove or disprove these are they weren't more than basic operations, but why lie or exaggerate them?

Not Attempted

7 – Second Wave US attack
8 – Planned attacks on Oil Tankers
9 – Bomb Panama Canal
10 – Assassinate President Carter
11 – Bomb NY Bridges
12 – Truck Bomb Sear Tower
13 – British Infrastructure attacks
14 – Thai Nightclub bombings
15 – US Stock Exchange attack
16 – Plane attack on Elat
17 – US Embassy bombings in Indonesia, Japan and Australia
18 – Israeli Embassy bombings
19 – El-Al plane attack in Thailand
25 – Attacks on US Nuclear Plants
26 – Attack on NATO headquarters
31 – Oil company attack on Sumatra


Again, none of these operations actually happened, they were merely planned to some extent, but never carried out. Thus again, why would he lie about them?

That leaves us with 11 confirmable attacks, all 11 already admitted to or suspected to have been done by AQ. 11 attacks over the space of 10 years. It doesn't seem out of the realm of possiblity for a person who was the Operational commander for AQ operations worldwide.
 
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Funny one. Written by John Albanese on 911 blogger.

It is not surprising that you would find that "funny". Apparently, many troofers find it humorous to disparage the lives and deaths of real people and find it hilarious to make light of the murders of real people.

Guess what? Most people are decent human beings and don't find such ugliness funny. Clearly, you have chosen to count yourself among the indecent minority and you even find it entertaining to spread the ugliness around.

Now, tell us again about how you and your fellow troofers are all about standing up for the victims. I'm sure the families will be really, really impressed with what you find "funny".
 
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It is not surprising that you would find that "funny". Apparently, many troofers find it humorous to disparage the lives and deaths of real people and find it hilarious to make light of the murders of real people.

Guess what? Most people are decent human beings and don't find such ugliness funny. Clearly, you have chosen to count yourself among the indecent minority and you even find it entertaining to spread the ugliness around.

Now, tell us again about how you and your fellow troofers are all about standing up for the victims. I'm sure the families will be really, really impressed with what you find "funny".

Using this "moral" argument is so stoopid. Often used by the believers, the stoopid ones, I may add. You don't get it do you? We believe that 9/11 was done by certain elements within the Bush adm. I am quite sure that the victims don't mind finding out the truth?

Therefore your argument falls flat on the ground. Stop using the victims.
 
I am quite sure that the victims don't mind finding out the truth?

The truth or what you want to be true?
 
Troofers have been making up the lies as they go along. Troofers truly believe thier lies are the truth.
 
Using this "moral" argument is so stoopid. Often used by the believers, the stoopid ones, I may add. You don't get it do you? We believe that 9/11 was done by certain elements within the Bush adm. I am quite sure that the victims don't mind finding out the truth?

Therefore your argument falls flat on the ground. Stop using the victims.


Clearly, reading comprehension is only one of your many weaknesses. I am not in any way, shape or form "using the victims". I am simply pointing out the latest of many disgusting displays of false sympathy that troofers like you put on while pretending to be acting in the best interests of the victims and their loved ones.

As is obvious, you also don't even know when your posts are self-debunking and self-contradictory.

Now, go and tell those victims upon whose behalf you claim to be acting that you find Albanese's post "funny". Go on, now. Do it. And then tell them that you spread it around the internet in their best interests. Go on, now. Do it. Oh, and be sure to quote all of your posts from this forum as well so that they will see how thoughtful and caring you are and how you only have their best interests at heart. Surely, none of them will notice your hypocrisy or your lies. Go on, now. Do it.

Then post links and results here.

Yes, that's the kicker. We won't just take your word for it. Around here, you have to provide facts and evidence. So go on already, get moving, and come back with results.
 
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Using this "moral" argument is so stoopid. Often used by the believers, the stoopid ones, I may add. You don't get it do you? We believe that 9/11 was done by certain elements within the Bush adm. I am quite sure that the victims don't mind finding out the truth?

Therefore your argument falls flat on the ground. Stop using the victims.
I think you will find that your the stupid one. The victims know the truth. The survivors know the truth. The truthers know sh i t.
 
Well let's have a look at the claims.

His position in Al Qaeda

1) Swore Allegiance to OBL



There might be some bluff and bravado present in this statement. According to earlier statements by KSM he was always reluctant to join Al Qaeda, not being convinced that OBL was serious about attacking the USA. It was not until the late 90's that he finally agreed to join Al Qaeda (the Embassy bombings of '98 are cited as having convinced him of OBL's seriousness) and according to the 9/11 Commission KSM denied ever actually swearing an oath of allegiance to OBL. It was KSM who brought to 9/11 plot to Al Qaeda when he joined.

Of course he could have also just sworn allegiance some time after the late 90's...

-Gumboot
 
Yes, the transcript says that he personally beheaded Daniel Pearl and that photos on the internet show that to be the case. That was in the transcript that I read earlier today - is there an earlier more heavily redacted version of the transcript that you are referring to?


Yeah. I just downloaded it now, and this one is less heavily edited than the initial one I saw.

-Gumboot
 
At the risk of sounding like a CTist...

It's frigging Guantanamo Bay. OF COURSE he was tortured! Just because he didn't confess under torture, doesn't mean that he wasn't tortured to confess.

Also:


It sounds like he's confessing to anything and everything.
Confessions don't hold a lot of weight with me.

A voice of reason and sanity in an otherwise unreasonable and insane world.
 
One would think that this confession would be the nail in the coffin to the truth movement.

Troofers will probably continue on with their lies.

What if it is? Then what will you all do? I have a few suggestions:

A) toss the baseball out back with your kid. He misses you, since you've been on your big quest to... ummm... well... tell folks they're wrong about some stuff.

B) focus on that promotion

C) get a date

C'mon guys; the "Twoofers" actually think they are saving the world. What do you do this for? Just to be right? Superior? Or are you genuinely concerned that there might be some crazy overthrow of the US government over this. (That can't be the case, because there is no "there" there with the whole Twoof Mooooovement). So move along!

Hey, now that 9/11 Truth is dead, can we get back to Vince Foster and Mena?

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