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LC:FC in PREproduction for over 1 year?!

mrfreeze said:
Well Dylan said a few days ago on his forum that "The script is 90% done" but they are still "Shooting for a March release". Go figure.
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Just bumping this thread because here we are in March, and nary a sniff of LCFC to be seen, heard or smelt. Any info from the LCF about it?
 
Comsat Angel said:
Just bumping this thread because here we are in March, and nary a sniff of LCFC to be seen, heard or smelt. Any info from the LCF about it?
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If anyone over there asks, they'll get banned and the thread will be deleted.
So, only the end of March will bring an answer :D
 
You don't think Dylan and the boys have been taken for a ride on the Hollywood fantasy limousine do you?
A few lunches, promises of big things, conference calls and true love, only to wake up next morning dumped by the side of the freeway in a torn ballgown with a hangover and ruined make up?

And we all know who runs Hollywood don't we?
 
Brainache said:
You don't think Dylan and the boys have been taken for a ride on the Hollywood fantasy limousine do you?
A few lunches, promises of big things, conference calls and true love, only to wake up next morning dumped by the side of the freeway in a torn ballgown with a hangover and ruined make up?

And we all know who runs Hollywood don't we?
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Well, Dylan did try and hide the fact that both his executive producers are Jewish from the LC forum. That's pretty much a sure sign that he knows a good part of his base is anti-semitic (he must read the posts, after all).

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Regarding the wider question of when... well, Dylan still seemed to be considering adding the BBC News footage in, so it's pretty clear that the film isn't finished yet. According to Howstuffworks you don't start negotiating (via your distributors) with exhibitors until you have a print of the finished film to show them. Then there's the consideration of the best time to schedule a release date. According to this article, Hollywood splits the year into 3 parts:

January - April: oddities, failures, no-hopers, possible cult classics
May - August: summer blockbusters
September - December: Oscar hopefuls and family friendly Christmas films.

I'd expect most documentaries to be released in the January-April window. Certianly, if LC:FC goes past the end of April (which is almost certain) I expect them to delay until September. That way the college kids will be back in school and they won't be competing with the blockbusters. September 11 makes sense for obvious reasons.

I suspect that most of Dylan's footage is going to look like crap when it's transferred to 35mm film and projected onto a decent sized screen. I can;t see many theatres being interested in taking the movie.

Also, I'm pretty sure that all this talk of $20m advertising budgets and aiming for 3,000 screens is rubbish. Here's some details of documentaries that I had heard of (spoiler tagged because it's a long list)



NB All figures are for the US only.

Outfoxed - July 13, 2004 DVD only
Theatrical release Aug 6 2004, 5 screens, 11 in week 2, 17 in week 3, ran 3 weeks, grossed approx $237,000

Enron: The Smartest Guys in the Room - April 22, 2005
Opened on 3 screens, 49 screens in 2nd week, peaked at 151 screens (week 5), ran for 22 weeks, grossed approx $4m

Death of a President - October 27, 2006
Opened on 91 screens, ran for 1 week, grossed $167,000

Chavez: Inside the Coup - March 7 2003
Showed at the South by Southwest Film Festival

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Michael Moore:

Roger & Me - September 27 1989 (New York Film Festival)
December 20 1989 (Theatrical Realease)
Grossed approx $6.7m

The Big One - April 10 1998
Opened on 33 screens, ran for 5 weeks, grossed approx $650,000

Bowling for Columbine - Oct 11 2002
Opened on 8 screens, 46 screens in week 2, 111 in week 3, peaked at 248 (week 6), ran for 30 weeks, grossed approx $21m

Farenheit 9/11 - June 25 2004
Opened on 868 Screens, 1,725 in week 2, peaked a 2,011 (week 3), ran for 15 weeks, grossed approx $120m

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An Inconvenient Truth - May 26 2006
Opened on unknown number of screens, 77 in week 2, peaked at 587 (week 6), ran for 23 weeks, grossed approx $24m

Super Size Me - May 7 2004
Opened on 41 screens, 113 in week 2, peaked at 230 (weeks 6-7), ran for 21 weeks, grossed approx $11.5

What the Bleep Do We Know!? - June 18 2004
Opened on 11 screens, peaked at 146 (week 23), ran for 44 weeks, grossed approx $11m

The Road to Guantanamo - June 23 2006
Opened on 15 screens, peaked at 18 (week 2), ran for 6 weeks, grossed approx $300,000

The Corporation - June 4 2004
Opened on 2 screens, 7 in week 2, peaked at 28 (week 8), ran for 24 weeks, grossed approx $1.9m

The Fog of War - December 19 2003
Opened on 3 screens, 5 in week 2, peaked at 261 (week 12), ran for 22 weeks, grossed approx $4.2m

March of the Penguins - June 24 2005
Opened on 4 screens, 30 in week 2, 64 in week 3, peaked at 2,506 (week 11), ran for 23 weeks, grossed approx $77m

Touching the Void - January 23 2004
Opened on 5 screens, peaked at 137 (week 9), ran for 20 weeks, grossed approx $4.5m

Inside Deep Throat - February 11 2005
Opened on 12 screens, peaked at 27 (weeks 2-3), ran for 10 weeks, grossed approx $650,000

Murderball - July 8 2005
Opened on 8 screens, 26 in week 3, 75 in week 4, peaked at 97 (week 6), ran for 11 weeks, grossed approx $1.5m

Dogtown and Z-Boys - April 26 2002
Opened on 20 screens, peaked at 70 (week 3), ran for 15 weeks, grossed approx $1.3m

Hoop Dreams - January 1994 (Sundance Film Festival)
Theatrical Release: October 14 1994, grossed approx $7.8m

When We We Kings - February 21 1997
Ran for 15 weeks, grossed approx $2.6m

The Devil and Daniel Johnston - March 31 2006
Opened on an unknown number of screens, 12 in week 2, peaked at 17 (week 10), ran for 20 weeks, grossed approx $330,000

Lost in La Mancha - January 31 2003
Opened on 8 screens, peaked at 24 (week 5), ran for 21 weeks, grossed approx $730,000

Buena Vista Social Club - June 4 1999
Opened on 15 screens, ran for 35 weeks, grossed approx $7m

Metallica: Some Kind of Monster - July 9 2004
Opened on 3 screens, 23 in week 2, 42 in week 3, peaked at 147 (week 4), ran for 16 weeks, grossed approx $1.2m

Capturing the Friedmans - May 30 2003
Opened on 3 screens, 38 in week 3, peaked at 78 (week 8), ran for 20 weeks, grossed approx $3.1m

Spellbound - May 2 2003
Opened on 1 screen, 13 in week 3, peaked at 117 (weeks 9 and 11), ran for 32 weeks, grossed approx $5.7m

America: Freedom to Fascism - July 28 2006
Opened on 10 screens, ran for 1 week, grossed approx $61,000

The Kid Stays in the Picture - July 26 2002
Opened on 4 screens, 45 in week 3, peaked at 56 (weeks 4-5), ran for 11 weeks, grossed approx $1.4m

Dig! - October 1 2004
Opened on 2 screens, peaked at 10 (week 2), ran for 12 weeks, grossed approx $127,000
Of the 30 documentaries listed in the spoiler tags, none showed on 3,000 screens in the US and only four grossed more than $20m in the US:

Bowling for Columbine ($21m), Farenheit 9/11 ($120m), An Inconvenient Truth ($24m), March of the Penguins ($77m)

Another two grossed between $10m and $20m:

Super Size Me ($11.5m), What the Bleep Do We Know!? ($11m)

And a further four grossed between $5m and $10m:

Roger & Me ($6.7m), Hoop Dreams ($7.8m), Buena Vista Social Club ($7m), Spellbound ($5.7m)
 
Brainache said:
You don't think Dylan and the boys have been taken for a ride on the Hollywood fantasy limousine do you?
A few lunches, promises of big things, conference calls and true love, only to wake up next morning dumped by the side of the freeway in a torn ballgown with a hangover and ruined make up?

And we all know who runs Hollywood don't we?
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The mental image of Dylan in a torn ballgown put me off my lunch. Thanks a LOT, Brainache.
 
jhunter1163 said:
The mental image of Dylan in a torn ballgown put me off my lunch. Thanks a LOT, Brainache.
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The mental image of Do-Over Dylan Avery waking up the next morning "dumped by the side of the freeway in a torn ballgown with a hangover and ruined make up" actually made me laugh uproariously :D


Thanks a lot, Brainache :p
 
LashL said:
The mental image of Do-Over Dylan Avery waking up the next morning "dumped by the side of the freeway in a torn ballgown with a hangover and ruined make up" actually made me laugh uproariously :D


Thanks a lot, Brainache :p
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I feel so immature :blush:
 
LashL said:
The mental image of Do-Over Dylan Avery waking up the next morning "dumped by the side of the freeway in a torn ballgown with a hangover and ruined make up" actually made me laugh uproariously :D


Thanks a lot, Brainache :p
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All part of my service as one of the peanut gallery jokesters. I try to provide laughs for the Ninjas (mostly because I can't research to save my life).
Oh and sorry about your lunch JHunter, but at least I didn't mention blood stains.
 
From Dylans blog:

Dylan Avery said:
Ladies and gentlemen, this Sunday, we leave for Los Angeles to begin production on Loose Change: Final Cut.

That's all I can say. Stay tuned.
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They just begin production???
 
The kids at LCF will be so dissapointed when they realize how watered down LCFC will be. :D
 
~enigma~ said:
I thought LC:FC was supposed to be released 9/11/06 and then in 1/7 and again in 2/7 and then be in theaters by 3/7...what the hell is wrong with Dylan the do-over lying woo?
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Are you calling him a liar? Be clear now. Just a liar or a filthy lying liar, who lies lies in a lyingingly manner. Whilst lying (on the side).
 
maccy said:
Well, Dylan did try and hide the fact that both his executive producers are Jewish from the LC forum. That's pretty much a sure sign that he knows a good part of his base is anti-semitic (he must read the posts, after all).

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Hmmm the fact that you would even raise that subject suggests you might have anti-semitic leanings maccy!

It's common knowledge that a lot of Hollywood producers are Jewish. To comment on the obvious only reveals your own prejudice.

MM
 
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