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Post #51 I asked who wants to see a double blind test video, nobody even saw it. This further proves my point that skeptics cherry pick what they want to see and ignore the rest. Who's having the placebo here?

.. BLAH BLAH BLAH BBLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH [loosely paraphrased]

I can't speak for anyone else, ES, but the reason I didn't want to see your video was simple lack of interest, not willful ignorance. I just don't anticipate seeing anything worth seeing. Your credibility on here is below zero, and I, for one, have already wasted too much of my life on you and your crackpot ideas.
 
oh ffs.

You can't be serious with the rocks on the head thing, can you?

I thought this had to be a joke as well. I had read about "Brilliant Pebbles" before (Maybe in a Swift commentary), but I can't believe that their (Machina Dynamica's) product is literally a bottle of rocks. Even more amazing is that someone would actually buy this product...

I did notice the exciting news on Machina Dynamica's website that "Brilliant Pebbles is now available in a new "Extra Large" size with 50% more crystal material than the Large size--all for the low price of $159.
 
Well, I for one, burned my engineering degree after reading this...I am off to pursue the true physics and will go to the ends of the earth to learn it...if I wasn't afraid of falling off the edge.

:boxedin:
 
About that photo montage.

What is all that stuff wrapped around what appears to be equipment? I'd be concerned about ventilation? Or is cooling a pesky simple physics thing?

Also, where are the speakers? I see headphones but no speakers.
The white stuff is a conductive material that ExtremeSkeptic uses to shield his equipment from interference. I seem to remember seeing a shot of the insides of the equipment, and he had it all decked out in white stuff there, too.
 
If you can sell Pet Rocks, you can sell Pebbles. For those who walk a different line, there are even Fruity Pebbles.
 
I can't speak for anyone else, ES, but the reason I didn't want to see your video was simple lack of interest, not willful ignorance. I just don't anticipate seeing anything worth seeing.
I know, you have already made up your mind and don't want to see the video.


Your credibility on here is below zero, and I, for one, have already wasted too much of my life on you and your crackpot ideas.
I don't care about credibility, I care about truth.
 
I know, you have already made up your mind and don't want to see the video.


I don't care about credibility, I care about truth.
I'm new around here and want to see the double blind video and the test results done by a non-partisan group. Is that too much to ask? Or am I treading on toes for asking?
 
I just experimented with power cords, power conditioners and Noise Harvesters. The difference is bigger than ever before. I can clearly hear it now.

The difference was huge when comparing 55cm vs 2 meter Nordost Valhalla power cord between wall and Premier Power Plant. The wire plugged into wall needs to match the thickness of the apartment wiring. If it's too thick it will sound heavy and muddy, and if it's too thin it will sound thin and lifeless. The shorter it is the less it worsens the sound, that's why the 55cm sounded better.

While doing the test I plugged my computer into the wall with stock cables and extension strips. It sounded thinner, edgier and muddier. Then I plugged it in with Valhalla to the wall and bass was stronger and there was more detail. But the edgy and muddy signature still remained. There wasn't any blackness in between transients, it was covered with mud in between. It sounded fine at first but after a few minutes I couldn't stand it anymore.
So I plugged the computer into Premier Power Plant. It sounded blacker with sharper transients! I could hear the transients separately instead of covered up with mud. But there was slight edginess.

Lastly I plugged the Noise Harvesters back in and the edginess had turned into fine sand. The transients still have blackness in between but they are rounder and smoother.
The increase in heaviness was the most apparent.
 
Like I said in the other thread, I like to input EMI into the transport because it sounds better. But the rest of the system needs to be shielded to get the highest resolution. Tweaking the transport didn't increase the performance, it just changed the flavor.

BTW, the cables on the picture are not audio cables, they are IDE and SATA cables for the harddrives. The rest are DC cables from the PSU.


http://poollogics.is-a-geek.net/pictures/forum4/System/Magix/PSU.JPG
Problem was the Nordost Valhalla power cord for computer was too thick, I modded it thinner like with all my other Valhallas. Now it doesn't sound worse when wrapping computer in ERS Paper again.

After I made Valhalla half the thickness it got more detailed but also too bright and unbearable, but ERS Paper transformed the brightness into fine sand. The detail is very smooth. http://www.head-fi.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2748712#post2748712


PSU.JPG
 
...If it's too thick it will sound heavy and muddy.....It sounded thinner, edgier and muddier.....There wasn't any blackness in between transients, it was covered with mud in between....It sounded blacker with sharper transients! I could hear the transients separately instead of covered up with mud....the edginess had turned into fine sand. The transients still have blackness in between but they are rounder and smoother.....The increase in heaviness was the most apparent.
You're seeing sound as colour and it has weight? Fine sand? WTF? Dude, you really need to lay off the acid.

That aside, I'm assuming you are grounding all that conductive paper you've slapped all over your equipment? You're using conductive tape to connect the bits together? If you haven't, then any effect you are getting from the gift-wrapping is all in your mind.

You, an electrical engineer? Don't make me laugh. Oh. Too late.
 
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You're seeing sound as colour and it has weight? Fine sand? WTF? Dude, you really need to lay off the acid.
Yes. How else do audiophiles explain what they hear?

You know the sound of sand hitting against the pavement? How about rain? It has a lot of resolution but audio systems aren't good enough to show it properly. You know the sound of brushed cymbals? Poor systems show it as a big block of brightness and it is fatiguing. But fix the problems you can hear each hair of the brush separately. It gives a hairy sound signature, what else?
If the background is black enough you can hear very quiet sounds, if those sounds are transients it sounds like fine sand. You can hear each grain separately and it's very quiet. So it gives a fine sand signature, what else?

The problem of brightness comes from AC noise, EMI and vibration. If you fix the problems it's like removing water from the fine sand. Instead of a hand full of mud you get a hand full of fine sand.

That aside, I'm assuming you are grounding all that conductive paper you've slapped all over your equipment? You're using conductive tape to connect the bits together? If you haven't, then any effect you are getting from the gift-wrapping is all in your mind.
Carbon Fiber doesn't need grounding...

You, an electrical engineer? Don't make me laugh. Oh. Too late.
It's always the ignorant people who laugh.
 
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I know, you have already made up your mind and don't want to see the video.

Yes. Since everything that has come out of your mouth so far has been BS, I predict that the next thing you say will be BS also.. and the thing after that.. I also predict that the video is a load of crap, just like everything I've ever seen you say.


I don't care about credibility, I care about truth.

Hey, I heard a rumour that those rocks and crystals work twice as well if you jam them up your a@@. Since you're such an adventurous fellah, why don't you go try that a few dozen times and take meticulous notes on how it sounds and feels, and get back to me when you're done.

and don't forget to take pictures and show them around so everyone will know what a knob you are.
 
The trolls get angrier the closer they get to realizing they could be wrong. The problem is they believe they are 100% correct in the first place. But if you don't believe you are correct you have nothing to lose, and therefore there is nothing to get angry about.
 
I never said I was 100% correct.

(although I think I can hold my own against someone wearing a crystal dunce cap)
 
I never said I was 100% correct.

(although I think I can hold my own against someone wearing a crystal dunce cap)


Dude those tools over at the PSA forum think u and I are the same guuy. I read where one of them brought up John Meyer of Meyer sound/ 1st John would be the first guyy to debunk the BS they sell. 2nd he completely twisted Johns words. John was explaining why a test device cant look around a room and see a carpet or something and tell you why the phase or freq is messed up. Yet they twisted his words to fit what they wanted.
 
ES, in your photo montage, top edge, second picture from left:

I notice that you're using a cheap-a*s soldering iron. WTF? You're spending big bucks on hi-fi sound but using a soldering iron that looks like it came on a blister pack from a convenience store? You actually let that thing touch any part of your equipment? That's a torture device, not an electronics tool. (Though, to be fair, as a torture device, it's first-rate.)

Good clean solder joints (especially ones made without overheating the adjacent components) will benefit your signals more than a whole rack of Noise Harvesters or a lifetime of putting a jar of rocks on your head.

You might think you're getting good enough results with the $4.95 gadget you have there. With some skill and practice, it's possible to make the best of a crap tool. But with solder connections, appearances can be deceiving and making the best of it might not be good enough. If I saw that toy in a prototyper's electronics shop, I wouldn't hire the guy.

Less than a hundred bucks will get you a good temperature-controlled soldering iron with exchangeable 600/700/800 degree tips to give you the right temperature for each job. A little more, and instead of changing tips you can set the temperature with a digital control at the base. Either way, it'll heat up in about a tenth the time, it won't overheat so it'll tin up properly, and the handle will stay cool. Plus it will have a silicone cord (no chance of having the cord cross the iron and melting, putting 120VAC into whatever you're soldering and/or into you) and come with a steady base/stand that will greatly reduce the risk of melting holes in your carpet, or your equipment, if you accidentally tug on the cord while the iron is idle.

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
Oh, and by the way...

Carbon Fiber doesn't need grounding...

Depends what you're using it for. It makes great fishing rods, bicycle frames, and tennis rackets with no grounding required. Also, if you want to burn it for fuel, grounding is completely unnecessary. However, if you want to use it to shield electromagnetic fields...

Respectfully,
Myriad
 
The trolls get angrier the closer they get to realizing they could be wrong. The problem is they believe they are 100% correct in the first place. But if you don't believe you are correct you have nothing to lose, and therefore there is nothing to get angry about.
You offered to show us a double blind test video. To date, the following have responded they are interested in seeing it (all times local to me [CST]):
  • MRC_Hans in post #128, 26 Feb 5:14 AM
  • Mortfund in post #135, 26 Feb 6:49 AM
  • Molly Black in post #167, 27 Feb 6:44 PM
  • Kennebc31 in post #168, 27 Feb 6:53 PM
  • Me in this post, right now
Some of these expressions of interest are over two days old, but you have yet to post a link to this video.

So who's trolling now?
 

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