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BBC and WTC 7 on 9/11: confusion or NWO-blunder?

That's just what you'd expect them to say, if they were in on it.
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SLOB said:
Yes, but something that sounds like an explosion does not equal the presence of explosives. Eg an elevator cart falling down a shaft can be experienced by people in the vincinity as "an explosion". Or an elevator wire snapping.

Doesn't mean its CD.

Cheers,
S
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True, but we're not talking about a logical exercise here.

There is plenty of evidence that there were explosives used at the WTC and this is just a snippet. In isolation we would indeed need to proceed with caution, but as it only supports all the other indications of explosions at the WTC it would be safest to assume it was not an elevator hitting the street.

There's people really fired up about it.
They want accountability.
I'll post a link when I get my stripes.
 
scooby said:
True, but we're not talking about a logical exercise here.

There is plenty of evidence that there were explosives used at the WTC and this is just a snippet. In isolation we would indeed need to proceed with caution, but as it only supports all the other indications of explosions at the WTC it would be safest to assume it was not an elevator hitting the street.

There's people really fired up about it.
They want accountability.
I'll post a link when I get my stripes.
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Circular argument. You try to use the video as evidence of explosives; then state that the video must contain the sounds of explosives, because there were explosives.
 
Arkan_Wolfshade said:
Circular argument. You try to use the video as evidence of explosives; then state that the video must contain the sounds of explosives, because there were explosives.
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No, I've hardly got started yet -I can't post any links but soon will.

I can point you to any resources if you are unfamiliar with the issue, it's a lot of reading, but to be honest all the research and discussion has pretty much been done and everything's packaged up nicely now. This BBC video coming along is just the icing on the cake - I've been laughing all day.

No, there is a core group within the 911 Truth movement who have realised that the time for research is over, and that they now have enough information to prove a crime has been committed and should use it to push for a new investigation. They're starting to have workshops and meetings, and there's some video and audio coming out which looks promising. I can post links. I think it's very good news. What's the general verdict here?

I know you're all sceptical - but they aren't, they're pissed off.
 
scooby said:
They're starting to have workshops and meetings, and there's some video and audio coming out which looks promising. I can post links. I think it's very good news. What's the general verdict here?
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Please post the links. It sounds interesting.

I predict this core group will soon start fighting amongst themselves and accomplish nothing.
 
boloboffin said:
Beeb's reply is up:

Our reporter Jane Standley was in New York on the day of the attacks, and like everyone who was there, has the events seared on her mind. I've spoken to her today and unsurprisingly, she doesn't remember minute-by-minute what she said or did
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if i looked over my shoulder and saw wtc7 coming down 5 minutes after i confidently told the nation it was destroyed, i think that would be 'seared' in my mind too;)

when youre in a hole, stop digging
 
scooby said:
True, but we're not talking about a logical exercise here.

There is plenty of evidence that there were explosives used at the WTC and this is just a snippet.
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No there aren't. And if a link of yours could prove otherwise, just leave out the "http://" and you can post all you want.

Cheers,
SLOB
 
parmanides said:
if i looked over my shoulder and saw wtc7 coming down 5 minutes after i confidently told the nation it was destroyed, i think that would be 'seared' in my mind too;)

when youre in a hole, stop digging
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If you knew which one was WTC 7 that is.
 
Aphelion said:
Really? And what would I tell the person I saw? "I have just seen a BBC video that predicts the collapse of building 30 minutes before it collapsed"?

Hey, thats a point, when will randi be sending them the cheque for one million dollars?
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Alex Jones predicted the whole affair, months in advance. Why do you not go accuse him of complicity?




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Mince said:
Alex Jones predicted the whole affair, months in advance. Why do you not go accuse him of complicity?
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Because he didn't predict anything.

What Alex said on 7/25/01 was "Call the White House and tell them that, if there's any terrorism, we'll know it was you."

He says "IF there's an attack." That is not a prediction of anything.

When Alex does predict things, he's always wrong. This is very amusing:

"There is a 90% chance we are gonna see bone-shattering mega-attacks in the United States, Canada, or England—or Israel...It could be both. In the next couple months...by mid-October....We're talking about the total end of America, total martial law...I am predicting you will have huge terrorist attacks in the Western world by, at the latest, late October.."
--Alex Jones, InfoWars, August 10, 2006

"There is going to be more.
This is only the kick-off."
--Alex Jones, Infowars, Sept. 13, 2001

"Within 2 years I'm predicting...that you're going to see a suitcase nuke in this country. You're probably going to see a release in a few years of something communicable. And I am predicting that you will see a lot of conventional bombings...in the next year or so."
--Alex Jones, Infowars (10/18/01)

"Suitcase nukes are a virtual certainty."
--Alex Jones, Infowars (5/16/02)

They're preparing for new terrorist attacks that are much larger.
Andthey're planning to bring in foreign armies."
--Alex Jones, Infowars, 7/11/02

"They're really setting us up for a smallpox attack...
It's not a question of if and when it's gonna happen."
--Alex Jones, Infowars, 9/26/02
 
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parmanides said:
if i looked over my shoulder and saw wtc7 coming down 5 minutes after i confidently told the nation it was destroyed, i think that would be 'seared' in my mind too;)

when youre in a hole, stop digging
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So what's your theory exactly?

The BBC was tipped off by Bush about the demolition and read the memo too soon? :eye-poppi
 
PerryLogan said:
Because he didn't predict anything.
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Oh, I know. But the legion Alex Jones worshippers would have you believe he predicted exactly 9/11. Well, if the BBC predicting WTC7 in advance 30 minutes makes them culpable; why is not AJ culpable for knowing, months in advance, about 9/11. He knew about it the whole time, and he did nothing? He knew about 9/11, had months to act, and let those people die. Or, maybe he didn't know about, or predict anything. And maybe the BBC didn't predict anything either.
 
CHF said:
So what's your theory exactly?

The BBC was tipped off by Bush about the demolition and read the memo too soon? :eye-poppi
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I'd imagine she was just handed a breaking news report to read.
I'm new to this scepticality thing, and I don't want to leap to far.
But is it not safe to conclude, that it did not come from an eyewitness to the event?
 
So what's your theory exactly?

The BBC was tipped off by Bush about the demolition and read the memo too soon?
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bush probably believes everything he says. bush isn't even in on the conspiracy, he just says what they tell him to say.

about BBC, they werent "tipped off", they just got news off the wire and repeated it. they never, even while repeating this news story, thought it was part of a conspiracy, they were just reading current events or so they thought

The person who PR'ed too early and fed this story is who we need to find. If there was a real investigation we could get records of the feed of that day and find the source of who wired that report, but it wont happen.
 
So Scooby, can you tell us all about this thermite you mention? I'm not sure I know anything about it at all.

Is it like termites?

Or are you talking about the thoroughly discredited research of a certain Mormon called Jones?

Anything else in the way of evidence?

What about the towers free fall collapse?

I bet NORAD were distracted by wargames and hijack scenarios.

Your gonna tell me about a missile or a flyby at the Pentagon aren't you? You cheeky young thing.
 
scooby said:
I'd imagine she was just handed a breaking news report to read.
I'm new to this scepticality thing, and I don't want to leap to far.
But is it not safe to conclude, that it did not come from an eyewitness to the event?
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It may have come from an eyewitness, whose report about a possible collapse was misinterpreted somewhere down the line.
These things happen, certainly on a day like 9/11.

Numerous mistakes were made by many broadcasters (even by Alex Jones).
This one stands out because the building actually collapsed after the report.
But this collapse was not unexpected at all, so there is nothing suspicious about this mistake.

The idea that the perps prepared a press release about the collapse of a building they (for whatever reason) themselves demolished is ludicrous.
 
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