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BBC and WTC 7 on 9/11: confusion or NWO-blunder?

parmanides said:
thanks for your response PerryLogan

Just because I can entertain the possibility of a conspiracy, doesnt mean I slavishly agree with every 'smoking gun' put forward - I dont. Put another way, an idea is not responsible for those that believe in it.

I stick with the big anomilies - and this is pretty big
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There were three kinds of news reports on 9/11:

Most reported things that had actually happened.

Some reported things that never happened.

One reported something that was considered likely to happen but had not actually happened yet (the BBC report).

Would you conclude that all the things that were reported that never happened (the State Dept. being blown up, a fifth plane, etc.) were PLANNED by the NWO but were aborted for some reason? Isn't that the logical conclusion using the same thought processes that found the BBC report suspicious?
 
Aphelion said:
Im so glad im not a coincidence theorist. You are struggling. I understand the corner you have painted yourself into.
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Life is a struggle, but nobody has been positing coincidence. We're all chewing over a piece of evidence which looks ambiguous to everyone except conspiracy guys. That's the whole story of the Truth Movement.
 
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Aphelion said:
Maybe some cows are still in the barn. It's interesting that every video except the one in question is gone from archive.org. It isn't about bandwidth.

Im so glad im not a coincidence theorist. You are struggling. I understand the corner you have painted yourself into.
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We're experiencing system slowness - please try again in a little while.
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Seems as if you're wrong...
 
Aphelion said:
It would be a coincidence that this video keeps being removed from google due to a strange "computer problem", but all the other BBC videos are fine. Yes, i'm very ok, thanks.
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Not if the computer problem stems from sudden interest in the clips. I think you should see someone.
 
Aphelion said:
If you go here http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=bbc%20911%20AND%20mediatype%3Amovies

you will see that most of the streams are gone. I did the same search several days ago and it returned 3 pages. They have also got rid of the streams. How do you explain that, MikeW?
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Perhaps it depends how you search for it. If I simply enter Sept 11, for instance, I see many more TV streams. Note that they all say they're available in "loan (stream)" form only, though, more confirmation that distributing the original files isn't something they intended. Also note the download counts: 2, 7, very small figures. If they suddenly had hundreds of people downloading the much larger files that they legally may not be able to distribute, then why is it surprising they'd do something about that?
 
PerryLogan said:
Not if the computer problem stems from sudden interest in the clips. I think you should see someone.
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Really? And what would I tell the person I saw? "I have just seen a BBC video that predicts the collapse of building 30 minutes before it collapsed"?

Hey, thats a point, when will randi be sending them the cheque for one million dollars?
 
MikeW said:
Perhaps it depends how you search for it. If I simply enter Sept 11, for instance, I see many more TV streams. Note that they all say they're available in "loan (stream)" form only, though, more confirmation that distributing the original files isn't something they intended. Also note the download counts: 2, 7, very small figures. If they suddenly had hundreds of people downloading the much larger files that they legally may not be able to distribute, then why is it surprising they'd do something about that?
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It's very probable that they have a program that serves as a "cutoff switch" to block access to URL's that are gobbling too much bandwidth. That way, strong interest in a single video won't bring down the whole site.

That's what I would do.
 
Aphelion said:
Really? And what would I tell the person I saw? "I have just seen a BBC video that predicts the collapse of building 30 minutes before it collapsed"?
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Something like that.....and don't forget to take Ace with you when you go, and it would probably help if you mentioned something about him being a disinfo agent.
 
Aphelion said:
Really? And what would I tell the person I saw? "I have just seen a BBC video that predicts the collapse of building 30 minutes before it collapsed"?

Hey, thats a point, when will randi be sending them the cheque for one million dollars?
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It doesn't take a psychic to predict that a building that is on fire, making scary noises, has chunks missing out of it, and around which the fire department has cleared a safety zone in case it collapses, is going to collapse.
 
aggle-rithm said:
It doesn't take a psychic to predict that a building that is on fire, making scary noises, has chunks missing out of it, and around which the fire department has cleared a safety zone in case it collapses, is going to collapse.
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How did they know when it would collapse? How did they know the collapse would be total? What if 7 had kept standing till the next day?
 
Aphelion said:
How did they know when it would collapse? How did they know the collapse would be total? What if 7 had kept standing till the next day?
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Where did they say the time of collapse?

Where did they say the collapse was total?

What if? Then like all news reports, that's what they would report on. Maybe they'd make a correction, maybe they wouldn't.

You really need people to help you with your reasoning this much?
 
Totovader said:
Where did they say the time of collapse?

Where did they say the collapse was total?

What if? Then like all news reports, that's what they would report on. Maybe they'd make a correction, maybe they wouldn't.

You really need people to help you with your reasoning this much?
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They differentiated between building 7 "collapsed" and "part of the marriot hotel has collapsed".
 
Aphelion said:
Really? And what would I tell the person I saw? "I have just seen a BBC video that predicts the collapse of building 30 minutes before it collapsed"?

Hey, thats a point, when will randi be sending them the cheque for one million dollars?
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I think any other person would say "I've just seen a BBC video that reported the collapse of WTC7 30 minutes in advance". Then again, that person probably wouldnt have to see a doctor.

As pointed out, news a-la-minute tend to be confusing, incorrect and delievered in haste.

I was working (Im a radioreporter) the day Swedens foreignminister Anna Lindh was stabbed and later died, and the reports we got the first 12 or so hrs, said that she had merely been stabbed in the arm. She died the next morning from internal bleeding from the cut to her liver. When I was in France september 11 the news there estimated the amount of dead during 911 to 50,000. That too was obviously wrong.

You should really visit a news room at a crisis. It would greatly enhance your undestanding of how media works.

Cheers,
S
 
The emergency workers knew when it would collapse. They were videoed saying "get back, building coming down soon", "its about to blow up". How did they know that?
 
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