BBC and WTC 7 on 9/11: confusion or NWO-blunder?

A W Smith · Feb 27, 2007

ApeHelium said:
No im suggesting they were told that 7 was being taken down so that they could continue rescue efforts.

let me understand what you are saying here. Building 7, An unoccupied building with no casualties was brought down in a controlled demolition. Adding more debris to an already large debris pile. So they could continue rescue efforts in said debris pile? Could you turn on a web cam or something and bring your "fireman father" to the computer to read that? I want to see him slap you up the side of your head.

T.A.M. · Feb 27, 2007

To answer this entire BBC Blunder versus NWO Blunder, in one sentence....

"Al Gore has won the state of Florida..."

TAM

CHF · Feb 27, 2007

PerryLogan said:
We're already tired of it--but of course the Truthers are terribly excited by this latest smoking gun. They are living out the latest incarnation of the "cat is out of the bag" fantasy.

On his cable TV show today, Alex talked about the BBC tapes with the "Loose Change" guys. Everyone was full of excitement, and they all agreed this spectacular blunder by the BBC was going to wake everyone up (again). The cat is out of the bag, and soon everyone will stop laughing and tell these guys they were right all along. The Truthers just can't see that they're repeating the same fantasies over and over again.

Did they at any point present a theory as to what the video means?

PerryLogan · Feb 27, 2007

CHF said:
Did they at any point present a theory as to what the video means?

Alex seems to see it as a blunder. They got their signals crossed, and the newscaster read her lines too soon.

Then, oddly, they decided to release this incriminating footage, rather than destroy it.

I would have destroyed it, but that's just me...

For conspiracy guys, the story is always the same: the perps commit an astoundingly stupid blunder which gives the whole plot away. But only a few select white guys are smart enough to see.

WildCat · Feb 27, 2007

T.A.M. said:
To answer this entire BBC Blunder versus NWO Blunder, in one sentence....

"Al Gore has won the state of Florida..."

TAM

Here's a better one:

http://www.eagleton.rutgers.edu/e-gov/archive/truman.gif

LashL · Feb 27, 2007

This is sheer lunacy.

The fact that the BBC messed up by not knowing which buildings were which and erroneously reported the collapse of a building that was actually physically visible in the background at the time they reported it to have collapsed, is somehow evidence to troofers of a furtherance of the conspiracy that they believe in but have never been able to articulate?

Um, I don't think so.

And somehow this is also "proof" to troofers that the FDNY was in on it?

Um, I don't think so.

Aphelion said:
Do you really not know the answer to that question?

All the firefighters on the pile had to withdraw because of the collapse danger. If wtc7 had stayed standing longer they couldnt go back on the pile to rescue people.

You seem to be saying that WTC7 was in danger of inevitable collapse due to the fires and structural damage, and that it had to be taken down by controlled demolition in order to further the rescue effort.

Is that what you're saying? That (1) the building was so badly damaged by fire and structural damage that it was inevitable that it would collapse, and (2) it was deliberately demolished to facilitate the rescue effort?

maccy · Feb 27, 2007

Still lots of giddy jumping up and down at the Loose Change Forum.

You know how frustrating it is to see the same debunked stuff coming around again and again? I think that even the Truthers knew deep down, that they were losing. Hence all the hoping for LC:FC and the ISI connection. Also, the relative sleepiness of the Loose Change Forum.

Just this morsel is enough to get them hoping again - it's like a weird hyperactive energy. Something new! They can't debunk this!

It pretty much debunks itself, though... it simply doesn't make any sense as the clue for a conspiracy theory.

If something this pathetic can get them all excited, it just shows how underwhelming Lyte Trip and Merc's "explosive evidence" is.

Predictions:

1. NIST WTC7 report shows how explosives couldn't have been used
2. LC:FC bombs
3. Democrat President elected
4. Movement dies*

*leaving only hardcore zombie researchers.

ihaunter · Feb 27, 2007

parky76 said:
I am curious as to why these videos are being pulled from Google and Youtube. It only lends legitimacy to the truthers who say this is a cover-up. Why is Google and Youtube pulling the flicks???

My guess would be copyright protection. The video is the BBC broadcast with occasional text added.

CurtC · Feb 27, 2007

PerryLogan said:
For conspiracy guys, the story is always the same: the perps commit an astoundingly stupid blunder which gives the whole plot away. But only a few select non-jewish white guys are smart enough to see.

You missed a point, which I added in bold.

WildCat · Feb 27, 2007

LashL said:
Is that what you're saying? That WTC7 was deliberately demolished to facilitate the rescue effort?

That's exactly what pdoherty was claiming at SLC. How the hell you find people willing to enter a building burning out of control, and teetering on collapse, while carrying arm fulls of explosives and detonation cables is, well, just an amazingly stupid idea.

Oliver · Feb 27, 2007

maccy · Feb 27, 2007

parky76 said:
I am curious as to why these videos are being pulled from Google and Youtube. It only lends legitimacy to the truthers who say this is a cover-up. Why is Google and Youtube pulling the flicks???

ihaunter said:
My guess would be copyright protection. The video is the BBC broadcast with occasional text added.

Crazy Canadian Jeff did call them and tell them all about it:

http://www.pumpitout.com/audio/bbc_oops.mp3

The BBC will remove its material from YouTube and Google Video as a matter of course. I imagine they're not especially pleased about the implications of the edited version of the footage are.

The Loose Changers are already having a go a Jeff for "alerting the perps".

Honestly, I don't care what the tuthers think of the BBC's motives in all this. The whole thing is ludicrous.

By the way, I used to suspect that Dylan was quite clever - now I'm sure he's an idiot (and heading for a big fall).

tacodaemon · Feb 27, 2007

ihaunter said:
My guess would be copyright protection. The video is the BBC broadcast with occasional text added.

It looks to be still up on LiveLeak, for those who haven't seen it.

TruthSeeker1234 · Feb 27, 2007

ROTFLMFAO. My cheeks hurt from laughing so hard at all your OCT attempts to spin this. You all keep saying "The BBC made a mistake". No they didn't. They got it right! They just got it right about 20 minutes too early!

Funniest thing ever.

"The Solomon Bros. building has collapsed" as she turns and reveals . . . the Solomon Bros. building.

It's hard to type I'm laughing so hard. My sides hurt. Tears.

Keep going Gravy. Where's RMackey? AntiSpohist? What say you?
Pomeroo? Please.

Oh my.

Oliver · Feb 27, 2007

tacodaemon said:
It looks to be still up on LiveLeak, for those who haven't seen it.

It's also here in high quality (DIVX - Downloadable and Streamable):

http://stage6.divx.com/members/245557/videos/1133782

LashL · Feb 27, 2007

TruthSeeker1234 said:
ROTFLMFAO. My cheeks hurt from laughing so hard at all your OCT attempts to spin this. You all keep saying "The BBC made a mistake". No they didn't. They got it right! They just got it right about 20 minutes too early!

Funniest thing ever.

"The Solomon Bros. building has collapsed" as she turns and reveals . . . the Solomon Bros. building.

It's hard to type I'm laughing so hard. My sides hurt. Tears.

Keep going Gravy. Where's RMackey? AntiSpohist? What say you?
Pomeroo? Please.

Oh my.

How silly, "Ace". It is beyond obvious that the BBC got it wrong. The video itself proves it to anyone capable of rational, coherent thought.

You, like many/most other troofers, seem incapable of comprehending even when your own nonsensical posts and your own nonsensical theories debunk themselves.

It would be sad, really, if it weren't so darned comical.

There is no "spin" here at all by skeptics, and none is required. The only "spin" being proffered is by troofers like yourself, although, to be fair to some of your fellow travellers, they aren't all as easily deluded or as seriously delusional as you appear to be.

tacodaemon · Feb 27, 2007

Oliver said:
It's also here in high quality (DIVX - Downloadable and Streamable):

http://stage6.divx.com/members/245557/videos/1133782

Having watched it just now, I just want to reiterate that anyone with any familiarity with Manhattan can see that the reporter isn't anywhere near the WTC site; everything you can see behind her suggests she's got to be at least around or above 14th Street, which would put her more than a mile away from the WTC.

(My guess is that the patch of green space on the left, above the word "LIVE", is either Madison Square or Union Square, but not sure.)

CHF · Feb 27, 2007

TruthSeeker1234 said:
ROTFLMFAO. My cheeks hurt from laughing so hard at all your OCT attempts to spin this. You all keep saying "The BBC made a mistake". No they didn't. They got it right! They just got it right about 20 minutes too early!

Meaning.....what?

The BBC was tipped off and read the memo early?

Brilliant theory.

Makes so much more sense than "they heard that WTC7 was going to fall and got mixed up."

I mean the FDNY was aware WTC7 would come down. You wanna try your hand at explaining that, TS?

332nd · Feb 27, 2007

TruthSeeker1234 said:
ROTFLMFAO. My cheeks hurt from laughing so hard at all your OCT attempts to spin this. You all keep saying "The BBC made a mistake". No they didn't. They got it right! They just got it right about 20 minutes too early!

Funniest thing ever.

"The Solomon Bros. building has collapsed" as she turns and reveals . . . the Solomon Bros. building.

It's hard to type I'm laughing so hard. My sides hurt. Tears.

Keep going Gravy. Where's RMackey? AntiSpohist? What say you?
Pomeroo? Please.

Oh my.

So y'all have got your smoking gun there champ. When can we expect to see the perps charged? Oops I mean excuses of why they haven't been charged.

TruthSeeker1234 · Feb 27, 2007

No, stop it, you're killing me.

There was nothing wrong with the BBC report.There were no mistakes, no false information, no blunders, no gaffes. It was all perfectly correct. If not for the tiny little detail that they forgot to wait until the building acually came down, it would have been fine.

The whole day was scripted for the newscasters. Including when the "planes" hit. Have you seen the Octupus videos that have the different news channels reading off the same script? That's good, but this one is great.

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