Quotes critical of evolution

[CFLarsen]

Are you claiming that the appendix serves no function whatsoever?

It is kinda like saying 'Bones break!!! Why do we even have em?'

No, it isn't. Bones serve a function. There are lots of vestigial remains.

Of course, there could have been design and evolving. They aren't mutually exclusive.

Perhaps. But then, you run into the problem of telling them apart. Which parts are designed, and which are evolved.

And why.

You can do neither.

 

[wahrheit]

*snip*

It's a no win; the only evidence acceptable by the ID'ers is a tank of ocean water brought back from 3 billion B.C. which is allowed to sit until life is produced.

3 billion B.C.? You better tell them it's from 3 thousand B.C. to improve your chances of convincing them.

 

[jimbob]

Are you claiming that the appendix serves no function whatsoever?

It is kinda like saying 'Bones break!!! Why do we even have em?'

Of course, there could have been design and evolving. They aren't mutually exclusive.

I'd have designed it so it was less likely to rupture and randomly kill people.

I'd have also had a separate eating/drinking orofice to the breathing/speaking one, so it would be impossible to choke on food.

But then I do not move in mysterious ways...

 

[delphi_ote]

I think the smart ones with a sense of humility have already figured it out -- it's too improbable to have happened by chance.

Humility?! Raising your hands, shrugging your shoulders, and saying, "I guess it's too hard to figure out. I give up," is usually called lazy where I come from. Telling everyone "You'll never figure this out, because I can't figure it out" is exactly the opposite of humble.

 

[Wowbagger]

Of course, there could have been design and evolving. They aren't mutually exclusive.

Oh, well of course there could have been both, but without objective evidence of a Designer, the concept is superfluous, unnecessary for science. Blind evolution seems to be powerful enough, on its own, to explain, and advance our knowledge of, biology.

 

[pgwenthold]

The majority of the quotes were not by creationists.

That "whoosh" you heard was the point zooming over your head.

 

[hammegk]

How do you know this?

I'll provide an answer soon after you answer my continuing question to you.

 

[delphi_ote]

dualism dualism

Just start a thread on dualism if you want to talk about dualism.

 

[hammegk]

I'll leave that to all the dualists who post here pretending to be materialists/naturalists.

 

[cyborg]

Are you claiming that the appendix serves no function whatsoever?

It is a vestigial organ. Without it we'd be just fine.

Of course, there could have been design and evolving. They aren't mutually exclusive.

The former is not required to explain anything and just raises far more perplexing and difficult to answer questions.

 

[cyborg]

I'll leave that to all the dualists who post here pretending to be materialists/naturalists.

Yawn.

Haven't you got anything new to say? You know, like something that would make anyone consider your "will design intent" based reality?

 

[delphi_ote]

I'll leave that to all the dualists who post here pretending to be materialists/naturalists.

Since intellectual honesty doesn't seem important for this discussion, why don't you stop pretending you aren't a Nazi serial rapist child murderer, hammy? Every time you post, it becomes more obvious that's exactly what you are.

Delphi, this is a clear violation of your membership agreement regarding civility toward other members. Don't do it again, please.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: jmercer

 

[Achán hiNidráne]

I'd have designed it so it was less likely to rupture and randomly kill people.

I'd have also had a separate eating/drinking orofice to the breathing/speaking one, so it would be impossible to choke on food.

But then I do not move in mysterious ways...

Yeah! And what genius "omniscient" being connected our recreational facilities to a waste disposal plant?

 

[Darat]

...snip...

How do you know "......snip... the territory will remain forever uneffected and unaffected."?

 

[T'ai Chi]

It is a vestigial organ. Without it we'd be just fine.

Again, are you saying it is worthless?

 

[T'ai Chi]

Oh, well of course there could have been both, but without objective evidence of a Designer,

They feel they have evidence of design (you keep mentioning designer but really it is about design); that complexity and information, meaningful design, comes from intelligence.

It is like you see a painting in a room, yet you ultimately conclude design is not present because the Painter doesn't make herself available to you.

 

[T'ai Chi]

I'd have designed it so it was less likely to rupture and randomly kill people.

You're welcome to try of course.

That's one thing about designs; they can always be improved upon.

 

[cyborg]

Again, are you saying it is worthless?

No, I am saying it is vestigial. Please do keep up.

 

[cyborg]

That's one thing about designs; they can always be improved upon.

No they can't. There are physical limits.

 

[cyborg]

It is like you see a painting in a room, yet you ultimately conclude design is not present because the Painter doesn't make herself available to you.

Painting is not like biology. Are you unable to comprehend that just because something is not possible in one domain that doesn't mean it is not possible in all domains?