ThePentaCON releases trailer

[chippy]

Um.

The Pentagon and Navy gave you permission to film?

Yes they did and it was not easy to obtain. The citgo is a military exchange and will only sell gas to govt employees. It is HIGHLY secured and even mainstream media is detained if they try to film there.



Huh?

No.

We called EVERYONE on the list that we could find numbers for.

We booked as many interviews as possible.

And we also went door to door in the neighborhood and found many previously unpublished (untainted) witnesses of the plane.

If that isn't considered a true investigation then I don't know what is.

And what is a "tainted" witnessing of the plane?

 

[Lyte Trip]

You understand that upon releasing this film- several people will be interested in REALLY hearing their version of the events, instead of your version of their comments?

The first thing to do will be to exclude you as a puppeteer. So if you're lying- you're going to come back here and walk the gauntlet? I doubt it.

The testimony is not supported by any physical evidence, correct? In fact- it contradicts physical evidence- and many other witnesses.

Not that difficult of a question, really- Lyte. What trouble could you possibly be having but being unable to answer to a poor investigation, knowing that any attempt to answer will immediately expose you as a fraud and a liar?

You are making unsupported claims against our investigation.

We have been 100% honest and forthright with our findings.

I have admitted that our witnesses don't even support our beliefs.

They will be the FIRST to come out against us if we misrepresent their claims.

In fact....if they are shown to be liars they will most certainly lose their careers.

Not going to happen.

 

[Totovader]

Yes they did and it was not easy to obtain. The citgo is a military exchange and will only sell gas to govt employees. It is HIGHLY secured and even mainstream media is detained if they try to film there.

As a nutball conspiracist- obtaining permission from the government to tell the people how the government committed a massive conspiracy to kill thousands of people- and what have you- seems... silly.

Aren't you concerned that the nutball conspiracist community will immediately shun your work simply for the fact that you had to get permission?

Aren't you also concerned that the FACT that you got permission sort of pokes holes in your Grand Conspiracy claim?

It reminds me of the popular response to why LC is wrong: they're still alive...

Huh?

No.

We called EVERYONE on the list that we could find numbers for.

We booked as many interviews as possible.

Yet- how many appear in your film, Mr. Moore?

And we also went door to door in the neighborhood and found many previously unpublished (untainted) witnesses of the plane.

If that isn't considered a true investigation then I don't know what is.

Then where is your answer to my question? Why do you continue to avoid it?

 

[Lyte Trip]

Say Totovader...whereabouts in Minneapolis are you? I live just off the University of Minnesota campus.

Maybe he'll invite you to his mom's basement for a logic party!

 

[ihaunter]

Am I on ignore? I went through all that trouble of simplifying 3 of the arguments against him, and he acts like I didn't even post.

Lyte Trip, you keep saying how no eyewitnesses directly contradict your eyewitnesses. what about indirectly? There are around 100 that put the plane on a flight path that is completely inconsistent with your proposed flight path. Not to mention all the physical evidence.

PHYSICAL EVIDENCE BEATS EYEWITNESS TESTIMONY

 

[chippy]

Maybe he'll invite you to his mom's basement for a logic party!

Wow. **** you.

 

[Totovader]

You are making unsupported claims against our investigation.

We have been 100% honest and forthright with our findings.

I have admitted that our witnesses don't even support our beliefs.

They will be the FIRST to come out against us if we misrepresent their claims.

In fact....if they are shown to be liars they will most certainly lose their careers.

Not going to happen.

What findings? You've done nothing but avoid any questions on your findings, methods, reasoning, and investigation.

And... no- you have admitted no such thing.

To say that they will come out against you- and then threaten that they will lose their jobs (as gas station attendants?) is contradictory. On the one hand you are presenting no consequence whatsoever for YOU lying, but also present a scenario in which they will not be allowed to contradict you... You mean- if they tell the truth (that the government did it ie, MIHOP) then they get to keep their jobs? Seems to me, you will want to claim the opposite, sparky. When they get fired for showing up work drunk- you will want to claim it's because they appeared in your little video, not the other way around.

 

[Totovader]

Maybe he'll invite you to his mom's basement for a logic party!

I seriously don't understand this method of attack. I'm smarter than you? Is that what you're saying? I'm better at "debate" (read: logic) so you need to claim I live in my mom's basement?

Yet... at the same time, I've been pestering you to just answer my question. You've flown out and apparently talked to all these people- and you're going to criticize me for knowing more about critical thought and scientific inquiry than you?

Am I supposed to be angered by that?

 

[Lyte Trip]

As a nutball conspiracist- obtaining permission from the government to tell the people how the government committed a massive conspiracy to kill thousands of people- and what have you- seems... silly.

Aren't you concerned that the nutball conspiracist community will immediately shun your work simply for the fact that you had to get permission?

Aren't you also concerned that the FACT that you got permission sort of pokes holes in your Grand Conspiracy claim?

It reminds me of the popular response to why LC is wrong: they're still alive...



Yet- how many appear in your film, Mr. Moore?



Then where is your answer to my question? Why do you continue to avoid it?

We have obtained testimony from 13 eyewitnesses to the plane.

7 of which have never been published in the past.

We have led an honest and open investigation so I do not expect to be shunned by any "community" that is concerned with such things.

If they are not concerned with such things then I expect to be shunned by them.

 

[boloboffin]

By the way, guys, my term for what Lyte Trip is proposing is the Aerial Ballet.

Planes all zipping around like swimmers gracefully surrounding Esther Williams, on precise timetables, coordinated with the people planting light poles, broken glass, and even leaves in the appropriate places - using even the rush of the Pentagon police from the Citgo station to get the taxi cap into position behind their backs. A grand master plan perfectly executed - not even Jim Phelps could have gotten this kind of precision from his crack team.

And it was all done by the lowest bidder.

 

[Pardalis]

Let's face it guys, there's no way out of Lyte's delusion:

-The physical evidence is false because it was "staged".

-The eyewitnesses testimonies that saw the plane hit the Pentagon have been "fooled" and have been "tainted" by the media.

And we're all supposed to fall off our chairs when we see the video

So there you have it in a nutshell.

 

[Lyte Trip]

I seriously don't understand this method of attack. I'm smarter than you? Is that what you're saying? I'm better at "debate" (read: logic) so you need to claim I live in my mom's basement?

Yet... at the same time, I've been pestering you to just answer my question. You've flown out and apparently talked to all these people- and you're going to criticize me for knowing more about critical thought and scientific inquiry than you?

Am I supposed to be angered by that?

It was a joke.

But yeah.....you DO seem angered by that for some reason!

 

[Coritani]

Lyte,

Why are you ignoring the mountain of physical evidence that supports the official story?

Why are you taking eyewitness testimony over physical evidence? Physical evidence > eyewitness testimony.

If the physical evidence was falsified or planted, please provide evidence of this. If not, answer the two questions above.

 

[~enigma~]

And what is a "tainted" witnessing of the plane?

If a witness saw the plane fly south of the citgo or saw it hit the pentagon it was not definitive and it was tainted.

 

[CptColumbo]

You really don't know how to conduct an investigation do you. Can you honestly say that your "evidence" would stand up in a court of law? If you believe so and don't take it in to a Virginia court, you are a coward. The mocking and demonization from the mainstream media shouldn't deter you, if you have a solid case and can finally give justice to the victims. If you don't, I can only assume you are either a coward, or a liar.

I think this is a classic case of "Wannabe911hero." You see people being deified for their efforts on 9/11, and you want to get a piece of that. However, you weren't there (which is not your fault). You still want to be a hero of 9-11, so you try to solve the case and lift yourself above the actual heroes by demonizing them. It's sad and pathetic.

 

[Pardalis]

Maybe he'll invite you to his mom's basement for a logic party!

I'm smarter than you? Is that what you're saying? I'm better at "debate" (read: logic) so you need to claim I live in my mom's basement?

Actually, a "logic party" is kind of a compliment.

Lyte is knowingly fighting against logic.

 

[Totovader]

We have obtained testimony from 13 eyewitnesses to the plane.

7 of which have never been published in the past.

We have led an honest and open investigation so I do not expect to be shunned by any "community" that is concerned with such things.

If they are not concerned with such things then I expect to be shunned by them.

Yet you have been unable to answer very simple questions about your investigation. You have already been discredited- and you have been caught being dishonest.

Out of 13 eyewitnesses, 4 put the plane north of Citgo- contradictory to the other witnesses, physical evidence, and scientific data?

Is this correct?

Again- the contradiction... where are you on answering that?

 

[CptColumbo]

Say Totovader...whereabouts in Minneapolis are you? I live just off the University of Minnesota campus.

We should have a mini-TAM.

 

[Lyte Trip]

Lyte,

Why are you ignoring the mountain of physical evidence that supports the official story?

Why are you taking eyewitness testimony over physical evidence? Physical evidence > eyewitness testimony.

If the physical evidence was falsified or planted, please provide evidence of this. If not, answer the two questions above.

The testimony will speak for itself.

No jury would deny it.

I firmly believe that these witness will be subpoenaed.

 

[Gravy]

We have been 100% honest and forthright with our findings.

Of course.

You honestly believe that Steve Riskus, who you refused to interview, is fooled or lying.

You honestly believe that Lloyd England, who you interviewed and whose account refutes yours, is senile, lying, or the victim or government mind control.

You honestly believe that Father Stephen McGraw, who you interviewed, is a government agent or the victim of government mind control.

You honestly believe that reporter Mike Walter, who you interviewed, is a government agent or the victim of government mind control.

In fact, you honestly believe that everyone who saw flight 77 hit the Pentagon is fooled or lying.

You also honestly believe that our schoolchildren are being conditioned to accept the government spraying of mind-control chemicals via airliners.

I believe that you believe these things, and I believe that you are severely delusional.

Please seek professional mental health care. ASAP. You have a serious problem.