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Simple Challenge For Bigfoot Supporters

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BTW, Huntster, you mention that there's plenty of evidence concerning sasquatch but I don't see how any of it isn't easily attributable to something else. Help me see this. I'm not asking for proof, just a good reason to share your opinion.
 
Originally Posted by Huntster
That's either an intellectual escape hatch, gross error, or outright stupidity.

You asked me what it told me and I told you. It wasn't an escape, a gross error, or outright stupidity. It was my opinion that if reports are to be accepted as actual sightings of sasquatch then there number is irrelevant.

What kind of crap is that?

"Reports are to be accepted as actual sightings of sasquatch"?

Please............you're much too intelligent to go there, aren't you?

If you are going to ask my thoughts in good faith then insult them then I'd say that you're letting your interactions with others on this board spoil ours which is truly regrettable.

Are we going to discuss this with intelligence and honesty, or not?

If there are thousands of incidents of any phenomena in a particular location, and few in another, that's evidence. Plain and simple.

Absolutely it's evidence of a phenomenom but it will never by itself be reliable evidence of bigfoot.

Exactly.

So why so many reports from POW and none from Kodiak?

(Hint; that's a "phenomenon")

I have no reason to doubt it.

So how are they coping with all those brown bears?

Tenuously, I'm sure.

I suspect that if there are any sasquatches on the ABC islands, they're in big trouble.

They've apparently established a population on the island with the highest population density of brown bears. Those intolerable brown bears.

Is their population "established"?

Or are they on their way out?

Originally Posted by Huntster
There's an old saying among us "activists":

You know you've cut the "beast" when he screams.

The louder he wails, the deeper you've cut.

I don't fear the dragon. I challenge him.

If you had something other than a spatula I'd be slashing away with you. I can't say that I'm happy that after all the vigourous opposition you've faced here that a gesture of frienship is met with a gesture of posturing.

If I've offended you, I offer my most sincere and humble apologies.

I think your approach to this phenomenon is very sincere and curious, and I'd hate for my war against stupidity to be the wall that blocks your search.

If I'd like to believe that bigfoot exists but I don't find the associated evidence persuasive I don't think that qualifies me as part of the beast.

I don't consider you to be "The Beast".

You're not screaming in pain, anguish, anger, and retribution.

I'm only wailing for a reason to believe in bigfoot and so far I'm not getting it.

If you're looking for a reason to believe in anything you're never going to find it.

You don't have a handle on belief?
 
Originally Posted by Huntster
You don't know squat. You don't seem to learn, either.

Fudd fancies himself the authority on all things bear and/or hunting apparently.

Nope.

Just more than you.

And it's quite apparent.

some "critters" (and not exclusive to brown bears) don't go down easily.

And when confronted with a critter that "doesn't exist", you shoot it, and it doesn't go down, the average Joe doesn't go poking about in the bush looking for it's bleeding, pissed off carcass.

Fudd you have know idea what the average Joe would do...stop assuming things.

Clown, I am Joe Average.

You?
 
Originally Posted by Huntster
Greater than yours.

The mere fact that he put his name to the paper means you must recognize a scrotum.
Appeal to Authority much Fudd?!?!

Sometimes.

Usually when appropriate.

You?

Glickman writes a paper on your pet Bleef and that makes him Sir Smartie from Smarterthanu....

After reading it, it damned sure makes him smarter than you or me.
 
Originally Posted by Huntster
That isn't the issue in question.

There is ample evidence that PNW Natives have both a deep and current belief in and recognition of sasquatches/kushtakas.
IMO it's the only issue in question.

How so?

The aboriginal reference to sasquatchery is just one (even though an important one) facet of this phenomenon.

The simplicity of the issue should be all that matters.

Simplicity? Huh?

Do you want to talk about ass whuppins, or do you want to talk nuclear warfare?

If such creatures truly exist than interpretations of traditions that may or may not concern them should be of greater interest after they are identified.

They haven't been identified scientifically.

They've been identified in aboriginal tradition.

Science seems to be late.

Is that the fault of the aboriginal people, or the others who have had the courage to record their experiences (with their names attached)?

Science, like the numbskulls on this thread, are always the latecomers.

So what?

It seems that you're putting all your cards on a PNW-only bigfoot. Am I mistaken?

Yup. You sure are.

I suspect that if these creatures exist in North America, they still exist in Asia.

And, as you know, there are plenty of reference to such there..........
 
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You see, IMO, the further one carries a proponent position of bigfoot, the more complex the supportive arguments become.
Wrong again, kitakaze.

See fingers bend.....

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Bigfoot proponent sees...REAL fingers. :) Nice and simple.

Bigfoot skeptic sees.....complicated contraption.

See how that works, kitakaze?
A skeptic sees whatever he wants to see...to keep the Bigfooties away.
 

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Originally Posted by Huntster
Thank you for your kind words and friendship. I consider you to be my friend.

So do I but I'm choked at you right now so shut it.

Damn. You're as hard as Mrs. Huntster.

I'm not going to be kissing in your ear...........

And I submit to you that they have not escaped identification.

They have escaped identification with those who humanity has entrusted identification with.

And I submit to you that those "who humanity has entrusted identification with" are screwing up.

Big time.

(For the record, for all you "who humanity has entrusted identification with", if this creature gets discovered while I'm alive, I'm gonna' be your worse nightmare.............much scarier than a giant, hairy man.........)

And I thought I was so swift using 'identification' instead of 'detection'. Meh, semantics.

Exercise great care with "semantics".

When dealing with people who don't like you, it's a basic.........

Originally Posted by Huntster
I like Mangani's maps.

They were built on the basis of John Green's database.

Study them closely. There is much to be learned.

That wasn't a direct answer to my question. I say that because you didn't link Mangani's maps.

Sorry.

Here.
 
...So when should we expect the Glick report on Chupacabra's Fudley??...
I wouldn't know.

Time keeps on passing and still no Bigfeetsus Fudd....wonder why that might be??

Yeah you do.

You can continue to wonder, too.

Possibly because there is no Bigfeetsus to be found?!?!

Possibly.

Time is your enemy Fudster...

Time is everybody's enemy.

....every day that goes by is another reason why Bigfeetsus doesn't exist.

Only to fools.

The fact that you like to interject folklore stretches the timeline out even further...100's of years have passed and still no Bigfeetsus.

No "bigfeetsus" for you.

For some of us they are there.

Why did you get left out?

Watching TV?
 
kitakaze wrote:

Wrong again, kitakaze.

See fingers bend.....

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=5577&stc=1&d=1171667843[/qimg]

Bigfoot proponent sees...REAL fingers. :) Nice and simple.

Bigfoot skeptic sees.....complicated contraption.

See how that works, kitakaze?
A skeptic sees whatever he wants to see...to keep the Bigfooties away.
Hi troll, no I don't see fingers bend, I see a little red x. I do see a finger that's bending for you. Can you guess which one?

I'm far too tired of pointing out your inconsistencies time and again, so would you like to stop hiding or would you like to try and give Huntster the Joyce pitch?
 
What kind of crap is that?

"Reports are to be accepted as actual sightings of sasquatch"?

Please............you're much too intelligent to go there, aren't you?
Maybe we're having a disconnect. If you tell me there have been a few sightings of BF on one island and a lot on another and I give you the benefit of the doubt what difference does the number of sightings matter? The monkey is there or it isn't.
Are we going to discuss this with intelligence and honesty, or not?
If you bring the intelligence I really, really promise I'll bring the honesty.;)
So why so many reports from POW and none from Kodiak?
Actually, where can I have a look at these reports? BFRO?
 
LAL....do you believe a Bigfeetsus could weigh 2,000 lbs??

A large male in top shape? 10' tall? Check out some world class bear records for comparison. I've been face to face with a bull buffalo with only the windsheild between us. They can reach 10' long and weigh 2000 lbs.

I suspect the formula doesn't apply for some reason, but Krantz' estimate may be too low.

Fact is, nobody weighed Patty.
 
Does anyone know what qualifications Glickman had to be hired to analyze PGF, or to write that paper? The ACFE Diplomat stuff isn't it.

Here:

Vitae: Jeff Glickman received his Bachelor of Science in Computer Science from the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign in 1982. While there he the was Assistant Director of the Information Engineering Laboratory and the Director of Software Development for the Computer Research Laboratory. While at the University he worked extensively with imaging and optical systems.

Mr. Glickman has developed proprietary advanced image processing techniques and has been called upon to apply them to solve criminal cases for law enforcement agencies including the NYPD, US Attorney's Office and the FBI, as well as litigations and scientific investigations. Mr. Glickman is a Board Certified Forensic Examiner.
His online resume was not difficult to find.

His name also shows up as one of the contributors to the list of Native American Sasquatch names. A list somewhat similar to the one Hairy Man provided.

I'm assuming it's the same Jeff Glickman who wrote this conference report about Richard Hoagland's University of New Mexico lecture.

RayG
 
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My dogs!! They're everywhere!
I might not go outside again. ;)
I'm calling off my next trip to Carcross for sure.

As most trends seem to bring out the entrepreneur in some fashion, I wonder why, Huntster, you haven't produced a Bigfeet repellent spray of some sort for the tourists. Do you really want them out there unprotected? :boxedin:

Trends can be found anywhere. I wonder what you think about how comfortable people would feel about reporting Bigfeet sightings in Manhatten for instance?
 
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His name also shows up as one of the contributors to the list of Native American Sasquatch names. A list somewhat similar to the one Hairy Man provided.

I'm assuming it's the same Jeff Glickman who wrote this conference report about Richard Hoagland's University of New Mexico lecture.

Was Glickman hired to do the PGF analysis because he was known to be a Bigfooter? Did he attend and report on a presentation by Hoagland because he is a woo?

Part of Glickman's review: The final portion of the evening (rapidly becoming morning) is question and answer time. Hoagland tells us to “look for a new paper” to be put on the web site which deals with - as I understood him to say - the hyperdimensional physics ala Maxwell and his QUATERNIONS. Richard spends a good deal of time discussing Maxwell, in 1873, and how his work was edited by a guy named Hebicide(?) He speaks of a solar angular momentum deficit which can be made up for by hypothetical planets; he shows a graph of ‘luminosity’ vs. ‘angular momentum’, their linear relationship, and that the sun is off the line. The sun, he says, is at a deficit by two orders of magnitude and we need two planets, very far away, to compensate. He says that 4-D physics can account for this, but not 3-D physics. He acknowledges that he and Van Flandern don’t see eye to eye on some things, but insists that the *current* location/orientation of the Face (post pole shift) “is not an accident.” (I want to see how they are both right.) Richard holds up four vials of T-Rex “stuff” having arrived by Fed Ex. He says that if there’s a hyper-d physics, then radioactive signatures will create specific isotope transformations and imprint a signature in the sediments. It will be tested. He speaks of the hyper-d energy as “the energy of the vacuum.” SO, to those with mathematical interest in Hoagland’s hyper-d claims, I guess you and the rest of us should all be on the lookout for the new paper he said he would put on the web, probably within a couple of weeks. I know you’ve heard things like this before. At the late hour during which I was trying to take notes, that’s the best I can provide regarding hyper-d physics from the seminar.

This presentation was about the "Face on Mars" and other bizarre Mars claim stuff, right?

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