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Giuliani & "the Big Mo"

Mephisto said:
I can't understand the appeal to Rudy - I do understand that many people favor him because he was mayor of NYC during 9/11, but what exactly did he do that any other person wouldn't have done (minus, Ray Nagrin).
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Exactly. Rudy DID HIS JOB on 9/11 and everyone called him a hero. Isn't doing his job what people elected him to do? As a city employee I can say: worst boss ever.

And of course what New Yorker can forget our mayor's whoring around. He annouced he was separating from wife #2 in a press conference before he even told wife #2 that she was headed for the trash heap.

He tried to turn NYC into a quality of life police state. During the Brooklyn Museum dust up he wouldn't even allow the subway to stop at the museum.
 
I am trying to picture a "Rudy" run w/o a Hillary on the planet, let alone NYC, just as a hypothetical. I just don't see it. IOW, he seems to be some sort of pitbull counter balance to the energy of Hillary.
 
Darth Rotor said:
Fine, would you mind if a couple of ex-cons jack off all over a picture of your mom in a museum? It's their form of artistic expression, via performance art, after all. :p

DR
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Sure, I wouldn't care a bit - I also don't support brown-shirted, bald-headed buttholes with swastikas marching in Jewish neighborhoods, but it's their right. Freedom of speech can be a double-edged sword, but unless everyone here has it, it doesn't mean a damn thing.

At least my mom could say her picture hung in a museum. :)
 
Alt+F4 said:
Exactly. Rudy DID HIS JOB on 9/11 and everyone called him a hero. Isn't doing his job what people elected him to do? As a city employee I can say: worst boss ever.

And of course what New Yorker can forget our mayor's whoring around. He annouced he was separating from wife #2 in a press conference before he even told wife #2 that she was headed for the trash heap.

He tried to turn NYC into a quality of life police state. During the Brooklyn Museum dust up he wouldn't even allow the subway to stop at the museum.
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It's too bad that simply "doing your job," makes you Presidential material. Glad for input from an NYC employee - it makes me wonder what he's got planned on a grander scale.

I also forgot about his "whoring around." I guess he has one thing in common with Kennedy. ;)
 
Mephisto said:
I also forgot about his "whoring around." I guess he has one thing in common with Kennedy. ;)
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Presidential, say I, and a step more manly than merely "lusting in his heart." :)

Is the second wife the Vagina Monologues wench? I was living in the area around the time of one of his break ups, but don't know if it was the second or third for him.

DR
 
Mephisto said:
Sacred to whom? I think the artists were making a perfectly valid point in a country that supposedly values freedom of speech and expression.
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You've just missed the point. Again, you will pardon the American people if they are offended their tax dollars are being used to defile their most sacred symbols.

If an artist wants to do this, go ahead and do so, in a free country. Just don't expect other people to pay you through government.

If you disagree, you have two choices: Pick up a gun and mandate it, which is disallowed in a free, democratic society, or convince people and get elected on a platform of bring crosses upside down in urine in every pot!

Good luck with that.


If we can fund the rebuilding of Iraq, we can certainly fund controversial art.
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Why? Rebuilting Iraq is far more important at this moment in history than funding controversial art through public channels.

Again, we should at least be happy enough that our society doesn't allow us to riot over a cartoon. :)
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Presumably a sufficiently outrageous one could generate a riot. I recall the mayor of Chicago seizing some artwork that showed some other guy in girls' underwear or something, under the dubious claim it might cause a riot.
 
Mephisto said:
Sure, I wouldn't care a bit - I also don't support brown-shirted, bald-headed buttholes with swastikas marching in Jewish neighborhoods, but it's their right.
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But would you support using tax dollars to pay the Nazis to march in the Jewish neighborhoods?
 
Alt+F4 said:
Exactly. Rudy DID HIS JOB on 9/11 and everyone called him a hero. Isn't doing his job what people elected him to do? As a city employee I can say: worst boss ever.
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As a non-governmental employee, I can say I'm glad you, as a city employee find him the worst boss ever. Unionized government workers are the worst of all worlds stacking on top of one another to provide inferior services.

Oh, no. Not you, of course.


As a city employee I can say: worst boss ever.
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As a non-government employee, I can say: this makes me want to let Rudy rub his balls all over my bald head, if my head was bald, which it isn't. I think I'll shave it for him if necessary.
 
Beerina said:
You've just missed the point. Again, you will pardon the American people if they are offended their tax dollars are being used to defile their most sacred symbols.
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I think you've missed the point. If a certain amount of money is set aside for a particular artist, does the government have the right to tell him what to paint or how to sculpt? Governments of all types typically make crappy critics and if we depend on their input then we'd have statues of politicians everywhere. If I obtain a government grant to support me while I create art, am I expected to only paint appealing portraits of Hillary Clinton or Nancy Pelosi?

Beerina said:
Why? Rebuilting Iraq is far more important at this moment in history than funding controversial art through public channels.
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Especially since (as Colin Powell once said) we broke it, we pay for it.

Beerina said:
Presumably a sufficiently outrageous one could generate a riot. I recall the mayor of Chicago seizing some artwork that showed some other guy in girls' underwear or something, under the dubious claim it might cause a riot.
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You can't tell me that there aren't actual GUYS walking around in women's underwear at any given time in Chicago. If art is imitating life, why aren't there riots against transvestites? Would YOU personally riot if you thought a piece of artwork was outrageous enough?

As I said before, politicans make crappy art critics.
 
WildCat said:
But would you support using tax dollars to pay the Nazis to march in the Jewish neighborhoods?
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Where do you think the money comes from to pay the local police who inevitably have to protect them from angry citizens along the entire parade route?
 
Darth Rotor said:
Is the second wife the Vagina Monologues wench? I was living in the area around the time of one of his break ups, but don't know if it was the second or third for him.

DR
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You mean the Hoohah Dialogues, don't you?

As Charlie Monoxide often says, "only in Florida." :)
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ATLANTIC BEACH, Fla. -- A modified marquee in Atlantic Beach has been drawing some attention. "Hoohaa" replaced a word in the title of a play after a driver complained about finding the previous wording offensive.

The marquis for Atlantic Theaters advertises a number of plays including, the Masquerade Ball, Band Jam, and now The Hoohaa Monologues.

Some said hoohaa is a strange word and that its definition depends on its context, while others said it sounds like a country band.

However, it's not a band at all. In fact, most people know hoohah by a different name -- vagina.

"We got a complaint about this play The Vagina Monologues," said Bryce Pfanenstiel, of the Atlantic Theater.

The Hoohah Monologues is a replacement title for The Vagina Monologues

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1780591/posts
 
Beerina said:
As a non-government employee, I can say: this makes me want to let Rudy rub his balls all over my bald head, if my head was bald, which it isn't. I think I'll shave it for him if necessary.
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Hey, you better watch out. Rudy's quite the whore, he might take you up on it.
 
Beerina said:
As a non-governmental employee, I can say I'm glad you, as a city employee find him the worst boss ever. Unionized government workers are the worst of all worlds stacking on top of one another to provide inferior services.

Oh, no. Not you, of course.
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Of course not me. How can I be responsible for anyone else's actions except for my own?
 
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Mephisto said:
It's too bad that simply "doing your job," makes you Presidential material.
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Even that, it seems, is not always necessary:

But when George ... went to Andover his teachers discovered he could not spell, Lutz reports. At Yale, one theory holds that W. was the model for Bluto, the hard-drinking, Jell-O-spewing DKE frat boy. Lutz notes that W. was a proud DKE member. At Harvard Business School, economics professor Yoshi Tsurumi told Lutz that W. was "lazy. He didn't come to my class prepared. He did very badly" ...

When his father was elected as vice president, W. got millions to invest (and lose) in the Texas oil game. By 1986, he was $3.1 million in debt...

When he was elected governor of Texas, the workday ended before lunch ...

Presidents Clinton and Carter averaged less than three weeks a year away from the Oval office. Lutz says that Bush has averaged 19 weeks of vacation a year ... *

So perhaps a candidate who actually does his job is not such a bad idea.
 
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