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Physics explanation sought

steve s said:
It's called chaos.

Do you honestly think that the distribution of debris is going to be perfectly uniform?

Steve S.
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Steve, the distribution of debris is a very interesting topic, but is not the subject here. Objects which are falling fall straight down, unless acted upon by some other force. Clearly the material in the photo is falling down and to the left, that is to the north. Please tell me what force is present to explain this.
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
the material in the photo is falling down and to the left, that is to the north. Please tell me what force is present to explain this.
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You expected the towers to simply compact into a shorter version, w/ the same footprint? :jaw-dropp
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
That would be an interesting thread. The subject of this thread is the following:

What force is present to cause the material in the OP pic to drift to the north? If there is a video shot from a similar vantage point, I will look at it. Siegel's footage is from Hoboken, maybe that's similar enough. Any others?
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You did not read carefully. The material isn't drifting. It's plummeting to the ground. As this photo shows (ignore the fact that someone boosted the contrast), the lightest material did not "drift" to the north. Agreed? If so, then your question is "why did more material from the north tower go northwest than in any other direction?" and my experiment may help you to understand that.

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An experiment for you, Ace.

Sit in your house and disbelieve the NIST report. Screw your eyes tight and be utterly unconvinced by it. Look at a still picture and convince yourself that it shows a cloud of nano-dust drifting. Convince yourself that that nobody can explain this to you. Convince yourself that the 700 scientists who worked for NIST are too stupid to notice what really happened or were paid off. Convince yourself that the whole world community of scientists, engineers and architects is too stupid to see things your way; or too scared to say anything; or miraculously paid off. Convince yourself that every media outlet in the world has missed this story (including the ones in countries that are hostile to the US).

Has your disbelief changed the world in any way? Does your incredulity carry any force?

You think it does? Bravo!

Keep disbelieving in the face of simple, obvious explanations and you might change the world yet!

Maybe you should write a song about it...
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
Steve, the distribution of debris is a very interesting topic, but is not the subject here. Objects which are falling fall straight down, unless acted upon by some other force. Clearly the material in the photo is falling down and to the left, that is to the north. Please tell me what force is present to explain this.
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You have been presented with an explanation and ignored it.

Now what do you think is the answer to your own question? Since you refuse to accept anything other than your own version of events.

Please enlighten me, what do you think is causing it?
 
Gravy said:
You did not read carefully. The material isn't drifting. It's plummeting to the ground. As this photo shows (ignore the fact that someone boosted the contrast), the lightest material did not "drift" to the north. Agreed? If so, then your question is "why did more material from the north tower go northwest than in any other direction?" and my experiment may help you to understand that.

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Gravy, this photo is taken from the north looking south. It is also interesting, as it shows disintegrating steel, worthy of another thread. However, the photo in the OP shows that falling material did not go straight down. Gravity operates vertically. If falling material goes any other direction besides straight down, then some other force is at work. The wind was blowing southeast. Why does this free-falling material go north?
 
I'm a little ashamed to admit it, but I haven't the slightest idea of what this thread is about.

WTF are we supposed to conclude from Truthseeker's question? The wind was in on it too?

:faint:
 
WildCat said:
This has been explained to you. If you think you have a more plausible explanation then tell us.
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A more plausible explanation than what? No one has tried to explain why the falling material is drifting to the north. People are trying to say it didn't happen.

I believe my lying eyes.
 
Pardalis said:
I'm a little ashamed to admit it, but I haven't the slightest idea of what this thread is about.

WTF are we supposed to conclude from Truthseeker's question? The wind was in on it too?

:faint:
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The subject of this thread is:

What is the physical explanation for why the material in the OP photo is drifting to the north as it falls? It is doing so against the wind.
 
WildCat said:
It's not drifting, it's falling. The smoke is drifting, and clearly to the south.
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Exactly, it's an optical illusion that makes it look like everything is drifting North. I'm sure it would be obvious in video.
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
A more plausible explanation than what? No one has tried to explain why the falling material is drifting to the north. People are trying to say it didn't happen.

I believe my lying eyes.
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This is what I think is happening:

Kinetic energy from the collapse sends some of the building's structure flying sideways, because of this it falls in a parabola away from the building. A single still photograph cannot show this, but videos do. The falling material is not greatly affected by the wind and is not drifting (unlike the smoke). At the particular moment of the still photograph you have selected, there is more ejected debris on the north side of the tower's footprint than the south.

If you have an alternative explanation I suggest that you attempt to get it published in a scientific journal, or at least by a media outlet.
 
TruthSeeker1234 said:
The subject of this thread is:

What is the physical explanation for why the material in the OP photo is drifting to the north as it falls? It is doing so against the wind.
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:rolleyes:

It's obvious, isn't it?

What lies to the north? WTC 7!

Everybody knows that the pulling of WTC 7 was the only real objective of the perpetrators of the attacks. So they had to get some damage to WTC 7 in order to fool everyone, except you guys.
The means they used are irrelevant, but could be: space weapons, matter-moving holograms, CGI, dustifiers, pulverizers, giant fans, whatever ...

Happy now? :rolleyes:
 
maccy said:
If you have an alternative explanation I suggest that you attempt to get it published in a scientific journal, or at least by a media outlet.
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The esteemed Journal of Dustification comes to mind. Or the Journal of Light Breezes That Move Thousands of Tons of Heavy Debris.
 
So that's it?

How many threads has he started in the past three days? Is this the last stretch of the Truth Movement, is that all they got left?
 
Gravy said:
You did not read carefully. The material isn't drifting. It's plummeting to the ground. As this photo shows (ignore the fact that someone boosted the contrast), the lightest material did not "drift" to the north. Agreed? If so, then your question is "why did more material from the north tower go northwest than in any other direction?" and my experiment may help you to understand that.

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A slight sidetrack here, and correct me if I'm wrong on this, but isn't that an alternate angle, higher resolution image of the object Christophera insists is the "concrete core" in the same couple of pictures he continually spams as "evidence"?

I haven't gone into that thread in a few months so I could be wrong or it may have been posted there already.
 
Alareth said:
A slight sidetrack here, and correct me if I'm wrong on this, but isn't that an alternate angle, higher resolution image of the object Christophera insists is the "concrete core" in the same couple of pictures he continually spams as "evidence"?
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I don't think that's the same tower.

Chris's "concrete core" photo is the South tower, this one I think is the collapse of the second one. But in any case, the columns that remain standing could be a good explaination of what the dark mass could be in Chris's photo.
 
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