ref
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Could I get banned from posting this? I had to post something there. Just to see what is their response.
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=3857
In case they delete it, here is what I wrote:
"Hello.
This is my first post here. I am also a JREF'er. Just in case you wonder where I stand. I stand for a truthful view on events. If something is found to be wrong, it should be corrected, not twisted or wrongly repeated.
That being said, I would like to know wouldn't all of you want to do the same too? It sure can not be good for the movement, if falsehoods are promoted. That makes your side fictional. Of course fiction is entertaining, but these are serious events.
Does anyone still believe that Larry Silverstein committed an insurance fraud? You still think he profited from the attacks?
Those are just simple questions that have an actual answer. The figures are known to everyone. Claiming otherwise is fiction.
Could you change your view when facing undeniable evidence? That is the truth. The purpose of seeking the truth is to accept the truth as it is. If you are proven wrong then you were wrong, because you didn't know better. But then you know better and change your position on the particular subject. If you still continue to claim otherwise, you are in denial. Denial is not truth.
I know Dylan is in a tight spot. You expect a lot from the new film. But the new film is bound to be under enormous amount of inspection. LC2 has been proven to contain a huge amount of false claims. These can not be repeated. Otherwise the film continues to be fictional. It can not be promoted as a documentary. But what is left then? I don't know what is going to be released in the new film, but I sure hope it doesn't repeat earlier flaws. But that doesn't leave much of a film left.. Is that the reason it is so delayed? People put so much pressure on it. Truthers hope it to save the movement, debunkers can't wait to get their hands on it. LC2 could somehow claim they didn't know better. LCFC can not. If they repeat earlier claims, they know they lie. And that's the dilemma.
I hope this is not my only post here. I honestly stated my position and view. If we are honest, we can continue in a civilized manner to discuss our differences.
Yours,
ref"
http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=3857
In case they delete it, here is what I wrote:
"Hello.
This is my first post here. I am also a JREF'er. Just in case you wonder where I stand. I stand for a truthful view on events. If something is found to be wrong, it should be corrected, not twisted or wrongly repeated.
That being said, I would like to know wouldn't all of you want to do the same too? It sure can not be good for the movement, if falsehoods are promoted. That makes your side fictional. Of course fiction is entertaining, but these are serious events.
Does anyone still believe that Larry Silverstein committed an insurance fraud? You still think he profited from the attacks?
Those are just simple questions that have an actual answer. The figures are known to everyone. Claiming otherwise is fiction.
Could you change your view when facing undeniable evidence? That is the truth. The purpose of seeking the truth is to accept the truth as it is. If you are proven wrong then you were wrong, because you didn't know better. But then you know better and change your position on the particular subject. If you still continue to claim otherwise, you are in denial. Denial is not truth.
I know Dylan is in a tight spot. You expect a lot from the new film. But the new film is bound to be under enormous amount of inspection. LC2 has been proven to contain a huge amount of false claims. These can not be repeated. Otherwise the film continues to be fictional. It can not be promoted as a documentary. But what is left then? I don't know what is going to be released in the new film, but I sure hope it doesn't repeat earlier flaws. But that doesn't leave much of a film left.. Is that the reason it is so delayed? People put so much pressure on it. Truthers hope it to save the movement, debunkers can't wait to get their hands on it. LC2 could somehow claim they didn't know better. LCFC can not. If they repeat earlier claims, they know they lie. And that's the dilemma.
I hope this is not my only post here. I honestly stated my position and view. If we are honest, we can continue in a civilized manner to discuss our differences.
Yours,
ref"
