TO BELETH
Encouragingly we can discuss without having to agree totally as that is our right as individuals to discern separately. Good one Beleth. Let me try mere ...(..)
I will try to re-format this to make some sense out of this reply. I will do this once for you. After that, I expect you to figure out how to click on the little yellow speech-bubble above to nest quotes yourself. Fair?
Davidjayjordan said:
Beleth said:
Actually there's no pyramid in New Jerusalem mentioned in the Bible; it's just a big cube.
(We aren't mentioned in it specifically either and yet we are HERE... and mentioned indirectly as the last generation. So maybe consider that we are allowed to read outside the box and that there is a whole lot more to be learned than just the first words as those are basically just to get us started and connected... we can't limit truth to just the Bible, as all truths ultimately come from the truth giver, and all fit tgoether eventaually once we figure'em out.)
There is a difference between "reading outside the box" and making things up out of whole cloth. The Biblical description of New Jerusalem is complete down to the compositions of the walls and foundation; if an immense pyramid filled it up, there would have been mention of it.
But there isn't.
The truth is that you are making up stuff about the L
ORD's holiest city in order for it to fit into your pet theories. This is ludicrous and sinful. It is idolatry. It is idolatry because you have put your conception of what you would like New Jerusalem to look like over what the Word Of G
OD says New Jerusalem truly looks like. I of course am not your judge, but it will be something you will have to explain to the Father when you face Him on Judgment Day.
The Pyramids were definitely designed. But they were designed by men, not God. The Great Pyramid was designed by the pharaoh Khufu and other Egyptians, who had no intention of following God, and were surely not designed by the Jews.
(The Lord not the Jews had the secret patterns and knowledge, given to them, the jews didn't originate the design)
Now why should I believe that, idolator?
I know you believe that Enoch designed the Pyramid, but I don't see any evidence of that. Gen 5:21-24 mentions Enoch, but not that he designed the pyramids; and the apocryphal Book of Enoch (Enoch 1) doesn't mention the pyramids at all, if I'm not mistaken.
(Yes because of the absolutely amazing mathematical and geometric and geography of the Great Pyramid and because it contains exact prophecy of the Lord of the Past, His Life and our future and His second Coming
http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/GreatPyramidProphecy.html
I would have to differ, besides a phi pyramid does have the special property of being able to transmit to a spherical UNIVERSE, just as new jerusalem is destined to be the Headquarters of all communication to the Universe.
http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/PhiPyramidprojectionofthestars.html
So logically and rationally and because PHI is intimately involved with the creation of matter, then hence it is only reasonable to assume that the cube of the greatest temple would have to be phi shaped and hence BEATUFUL , because PHI is the ratio of beauty..
http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Whatisbeauty.html )
You worship phi and pyramids. Your love for a mathematical manipulation of the square root of five overshadows your love of G
OD. You need to get back on track and
soon, my friend; you don't have much time left on this Earth.
Okay, a couple of questions about that page.
You say that the Giza sarcophagus is "exactly the same demensions as the ARK of the Covenant". I'd like to know where you got the data for the size of the sarcophagus. The Ark's dimensions are well known; it was 3.75' x 2.25' x 2.25'. I note that the Egyptians typically layed their rulers out flat and straight when they were entombed, and thus the ruler in the Giza sarcophagus would have had to be shorter than three-foot-nine in order to fit in the sarcophagus. Since I do not believe this to be the case, I'd like to see the data you collected on the size of the sarcophagus.
(its the inside of the sacrophagus that was exactly the same as the ARK as I believe the external stone sacrophagus which resonated which is the ultimate point of the whole 432 thread..... and what happenned inside Giza that empowered....Anyway it was maybe four years ago since I wrote that, but I put this hyperlink on that page.. http://crystalinks.com/ark.html )
Again, for the body of the Pharaoh to have fit in an Ark-sized sarcophagus, the Pharaoh would have had to have been
less than four feet tall. This is not credible without further evidence. Your Web pages, which I
have read, do not provide that evidence.
You mention that the ratio of the dimensions of the Ark, 1.5:1.5:2.5 (or, equal but easier to read, 3:3:5) are "sacred and powerful by their geometry because it relates back to the LORD’s creative process". I'm wondering how you came up with that theory. Where else in the Bible is that ratio found?
(Good point.. 3/5 very close to phi which is at .618. But not close, so I would think you have to take all the demensions of the Holy of Holies into consideration, as the base was, darn if I remeber, probably 1.5 cubits high making the total height of 3 cubits, which puts the Mercy Seat at 4.5 feet high.
Consider
http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/ManinHolyofHolies2.html
Terrible Graphics, but maybe you can glean something from it.... but nevertheless, the internal resonance of the ARK and SAC is what has to be important. 1.5 a ratio of ten cubits or 15 feet, 2.5 cubits being a ratio of 10 cubits and so there had to be a sacred musical note produced. and so I would think it all has tomdo with an F sharp
http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/FSharpKeytoKingsChamber.html
Which is the point of this whole thread, even though the skeptics were lost in Page One. So again good point and good question, as it has to come into play when I get to Page TEN of 432.. for as you can see it is under construction, and is suppose to be the tie together of the whole predominance of evidence that suggests 432 is the harmony of the Moon, earth and SUn,
http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/432KeyofStarofDavid10.html
This not written exactly in the Bible but in His CReation (Psalm 19)
Don't you see what you are doing? You are modifying the word of GOD to fit your own beliefs! Please, get back on track. 3/5 is less than 1; phi is more than 1. Phi is not 0.618..., it is 1.618... Your words make me fear for your soul.
Again I agree. Definitely designed by a man.
(From the secrets of the heavens IMO, as man couldn;t have known these truths, or imagined them inhis head)
Why not? I see a lot of evidence just by talking to you that man can imagine quite a bit.
As I'm sure you are aware, phi is an exact number.
(Irrational never ending number)
It is both irrational and exact. It can be accurately calculated to an arbitrary number of digits, and it will always have the same value no matter who calculates it or when it is calculated.
It is exactly equal to (1 + sqrt(5)) / 2. 1.6180339887498948482045868343656... No more, no less. Yet on that page you claim that it is a different number - to wit, (4/pi)^2. That number is also exactly calculable. 1.6211389382774043431020714113556...
(Don't know that one.... as I don't know it all, but do figure it out for us.
Pardon? I already
did figure it out for you.
Now, anyone can see that those two numbers are not equal. And yet, on that page, you claim they are. How do you explain this discrepancy?
(Will look into it might have been a typo, oversight, unclear or just a downright mistake)
I expect to see your decision on the nature of this error reflected in both your posts here and on your Web page. Anything less would be a lie.
[more idolizing of the slaver's symbol, and the shape fallen buildings take, deleted]
Again I would state that I didn't think up the 792 ratios, they are a standard of Sacred geometry rather than my own, I am just trying to piece it all together rather than giving the credit for truth to arrogant man. He was not the creator nor is he the CREATOR.)
Except that it is obvious that you are the "creator" of your "Sacred geometry". I will not fall down before your golden calf. I urge you to stop falling down before it yourself.
My intent is to find the truth, of course. And don't thank me too soon; we have barely scratched the surface of phi, and haven't even touched 432 yet.
(Whewee, you have got that right, as we have just begin to think and connect up the dots to make everything mesh and fit together in harmony and all our skills are needed, if we can just work together humbly for the greater good.. real KNOWledge and the KNOWledge of the Creator.)
Except that what you have done is try to distract us from real knowledge.
Clean your act up, or begone, idolator and liar.
