Davidjayjordan
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Encouragingly we can discuss without having to agree totally as that is our right as individuals to discern separately. Good one Beleth. Let me try mere ...(..)
Actually there's no pyramid in New Jerusalem mentioned in the Bible; it's just a big cube.
(We aren't mentioned in it specifically either and yet we are HERE... and mentioned indirectly as the last generation. So maybe consider that we are allowed to read outside the box and that there is a whole lot more to be learned than just the first words as those are basically just to get us started and connected... we can't limit truth to just the Bible, as all truths ultimately come from the truth giver, and all fit tgoether eventaually once we figure'em out.)
The Pyramids were definitely designed. But they were designed by men, not God. The Great Pyramid was designed by the pharaoh Khufu and other Egyptians, who had no intention of following God, and were surely not designed by the Jews. (The Lord not the Jews had the secret patterns and knowledge, given to them, the jews didn't originate the design)
I know you believe that Enoch designed the Pyramid, but I don't see any evidence of that. Gen 5:21-24 mentions Enoch, but not that he designed the pyramids; and the apocryphal Book of Enoch (Enoch 1) doesn't mention the pyramids at all, if I'm not mistaken. (Yes because of the absolutely amazing mathematical and geometric and geography of the Great Pyramid and because it contains exact prophecy of the Lord of the Past, His Life and our future and His second Coming
http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/GreatPyramidProphecy.html
I would have to differ, besides a phi pyramid does have the special property of being able to transmit to a spherical UNIVERSE, just as new jerusalem is destined to be the Headquarters of all communication to the Universe.
http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/PhiPyramidprojectionofthestars.html
So logically and rationally and because PHI is intimately involved with the creation of matter, then hence it is only reasonable to assume that the cube of the greatest temple would have to be phi shaped and hence BEATUFUL , because PHI is the ratio of beauty.. http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Whatisbeauty.html )
Okay, a couple of questions about that page.
You say that the Giza sarcophagus is "exactly the same demensions as the ARK of the Covenant". I'd like to know where you got the data for the size of the sarcophagus. The Ark's dimensions are well known; it was 3.75' x 2.25' x 2.25'. I note that the Egyptians typically layed their rulers out flat and straight when they were entombed, and thus the ruler in the Giza sarcophagus would have had to be shorter than three-foot-nine in order to fit in the sarcophagus. Since I do not believe this to be the case, I'd like to see the data you collected on the size of the sarcophagus. (its the inside of the sacrophagus that was exactly the same as the ARK as I believe the external stone sacrophagus which resonated which is the ultimate point of the whole 432 thread..... and what happenned inside Giza that empowered....Anyway it was maybe four years ago since I wrote that, but I put this hyperlink on that page.. http://crystalinks.com/ark.html )
You mention that the ratio of the dimensions of the Ark, 1.5:1.5:2.5 (or, equal but easier to read, 3:3:5) are "sacred and powerful by their geometry because it relates back to the LORD’s creative process". I'm wondering how you came up with that theory. Where else in the Bible is that ratio found? (Good point.. 3/5 very close to phi which is at .618. But not close, so I would think you have to take all the demensions of the Holy of Holies into consideration, as the base was, darn if I remeber, probably 1.5 cubits high making the total height of 3 cubits, which puts the Mercy Seat at 4.5 feet high.
Consider http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/ManinHolyofHolies2.html
Terrible Graphics, but maybe you can glean something from it.... but nevertheless, the internal resonance of the ARK and SAC is what has to be important. 1.5 a ratio of ten cubits or 15 feet, 2.5 cubits being a ratio of 10 cubits and so there had to be a sacred musical note produced. and so I would think it all has tomdo with an F sharp http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/FSharpKeytoKingsChamber.html
Which is the point of this whole thread, even though the skeptics were lost in Page One. So again good point and good question, as it has to come into play when I get to Page TEN of 432.. for as you can see it is under construction, and is suppose to be the tie together of the whole predominance of evidence that suggests 432 is the harmony of the Moon, earth and SUn,
http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/432KeyofStarofDavid10.html
This not written exactly in the Bible but in His CReation (Psalm 19)
Again I agree. Definitely designed by a man. (From the secrets of the heavens IMO, as man couldn;t have known these truths, or imagined them inhis head)
Okay, a couple questions about that page too.
As I'm sure you are aware, phi is an exact number. (Irrational never ending number)
It is exactly equal to (1 + sqrt(5)) / 2. 1.6180339887498948482045868343656... No more, no less. Yet on that page you claim that it is a different number - to wit, (4/pi)^2. That number is also exactly calculable. 1.6211389382774043431020714113556...
(Don't know that one.... as I don't know it all, but do figure it out for us. as hopefully later today I shall check it out. But then again if you figure it out before that, let us know. Thanks. we are suppose to work together for good, and none of us are suppose to know it all. And if I have to change it so be it, or make qualifications I shall.)
Now, anyone can see that those two numbers are not equal. And yet, on that page, you claim they are. How do you explain this discrepancy? (Will look into it might have been a typo, oversight, unclear or just a downright mistake)
I'm also confused by the dimensions and ratios you give for the Great Pyramid. You claim the side of a base was 792', when it was actually 756'. Likewise, its height was actually 481', but your page says it was 504'. Again, I'd like you to explain these multiple-foot discrepancies, given the fact that you claim the pyramids are so precise that they predict timeframes in inches.
(Excellent excellent observation... tright on, as they don't know the size of the Great Pyramid it depends on what you are measuring. New jerusalem is measured from what cornerstones..... the outside retaining wall of 144 cubits (or 216 feet)
Rev 21:17And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred [and] forty [and] four cubits, [according to] the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
ha and there again is confirmation that the measure of the angel was to become the measure of man, and the measure of man was in steps and feet, and his hand span, and cubit his elbow to finger tip length, all sacred and ratios to the other heavenly bodies.
Theres that 144 ratio, that 216 number again that the skeptics keep fighting. But the Lord uses it over and over again in His constructions of his temples and his heavenly bodies. Moon being 216.
Whoops what was the question, Oh yea, the measurements were from the outside retaining wall as only the pure of heart can enter, NJ and only the elite priesthood and reigning pharoahs could enter the Great Pyramid..
And Giza had a retaining wall around it, even though very very little is left standing on in place, but with research you can find out that of course GIZA pyramid used to be surrounded by a retaining wall just as New Jerusalem has a wall around it. Just GOOGLE that one Beleth.
Hence the 792 foot length on the outside of the retaining wall makes the 792 length rational, and fits into the lengths of sacred geometry of the ages, Plato, Pythaogorus, and the Egyptian Mysteries as taught them by the angels in my opinion... Again I would state that I didn't think up the 792 ratios, they are a standard of Sacred geometry rather than my own, I am just trying to piece it all together rather than giving the credit for truth to arrogant man. He was not the creator nor is he the CREATOR.)
My intent is to find the truth, of course. And don't thank me too soon; we have barely scratched the surface of phi, and haven't even touched 432 yet.[/quote]
(Whewee, you have got that right, as we have just begin to think and connect up the dots to make everything mesh and fit together in harmony and all our skills are needed, if we can just work together humbly for the greater good.. real KNOWledge and the KNOWledge of the Creator.)
And if this thread looks a mess Beleth, I'll figure out partial quotes eventually, as in some things I am slower than slow.
Encouragingly we can discuss without having to agree totally as that is our right as individuals to discern separately. Good one Beleth. Let me try mere ...(..)
Actually there's no pyramid in New Jerusalem mentioned in the Bible; it's just a big cube.
(We aren't mentioned in it specifically either and yet we are HERE... and mentioned indirectly as the last generation. So maybe consider that we are allowed to read outside the box and that there is a whole lot more to be learned than just the first words as those are basically just to get us started and connected... we can't limit truth to just the Bible, as all truths ultimately come from the truth giver, and all fit tgoether eventaually once we figure'em out.)
The Pyramids were definitely designed. But they were designed by men, not God. The Great Pyramid was designed by the pharaoh Khufu and other Egyptians, who had no intention of following God, and were surely not designed by the Jews. (The Lord not the Jews had the secret patterns and knowledge, given to them, the jews didn't originate the design)
I know you believe that Enoch designed the Pyramid, but I don't see any evidence of that. Gen 5:21-24 mentions Enoch, but not that he designed the pyramids; and the apocryphal Book of Enoch (Enoch 1) doesn't mention the pyramids at all, if I'm not mistaken. (Yes because of the absolutely amazing mathematical and geometric and geography of the Great Pyramid and because it contains exact prophecy of the Lord of the Past, His Life and our future and His second Coming
http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/GreatPyramidProphecy.html
I would have to differ, besides a phi pyramid does have the special property of being able to transmit to a spherical UNIVERSE, just as new jerusalem is destined to be the Headquarters of all communication to the Universe.
http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/PhiPyramidprojectionofthestars.html
So logically and rationally and because PHI is intimately involved with the creation of matter, then hence it is only reasonable to assume that the cube of the greatest temple would have to be phi shaped and hence BEATUFUL , because PHI is the ratio of beauty.. http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Whatisbeauty.html )
Okay, a couple of questions about that page.
You say that the Giza sarcophagus is "exactly the same demensions as the ARK of the Covenant". I'd like to know where you got the data for the size of the sarcophagus. The Ark's dimensions are well known; it was 3.75' x 2.25' x 2.25'. I note that the Egyptians typically layed their rulers out flat and straight when they were entombed, and thus the ruler in the Giza sarcophagus would have had to be shorter than three-foot-nine in order to fit in the sarcophagus. Since I do not believe this to be the case, I'd like to see the data you collected on the size of the sarcophagus. (its the inside of the sacrophagus that was exactly the same as the ARK as I believe the external stone sacrophagus which resonated which is the ultimate point of the whole 432 thread..... and what happenned inside Giza that empowered....Anyway it was maybe four years ago since I wrote that, but I put this hyperlink on that page.. http://crystalinks.com/ark.html )
You mention that the ratio of the dimensions of the Ark, 1.5:1.5:2.5 (or, equal but easier to read, 3:3:5) are "sacred and powerful by their geometry because it relates back to the LORD’s creative process". I'm wondering how you came up with that theory. Where else in the Bible is that ratio found? (Good point.. 3/5 very close to phi which is at .618. But not close, so I would think you have to take all the demensions of the Holy of Holies into consideration, as the base was, darn if I remeber, probably 1.5 cubits high making the total height of 3 cubits, which puts the Mercy Seat at 4.5 feet high.
Consider http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/ManinHolyofHolies2.html
Terrible Graphics, but maybe you can glean something from it.... but nevertheless, the internal resonance of the ARK and SAC is what has to be important. 1.5 a ratio of ten cubits or 15 feet, 2.5 cubits being a ratio of 10 cubits and so there had to be a sacred musical note produced. and so I would think it all has tomdo with an F sharp http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/FSharpKeytoKingsChamber.html
Which is the point of this whole thread, even though the skeptics were lost in Page One. So again good point and good question, as it has to come into play when I get to Page TEN of 432.. for as you can see it is under construction, and is suppose to be the tie together of the whole predominance of evidence that suggests 432 is the harmony of the Moon, earth and SUn,
http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/432KeyofStarofDavid10.html
This not written exactly in the Bible but in His CReation (Psalm 19)
Again I agree. Definitely designed by a man. (From the secrets of the heavens IMO, as man couldn;t have known these truths, or imagined them inhis head)
Okay, a couple questions about that page too.
As I'm sure you are aware, phi is an exact number. (Irrational never ending number)
It is exactly equal to (1 + sqrt(5)) / 2. 1.6180339887498948482045868343656... No more, no less. Yet on that page you claim that it is a different number - to wit, (4/pi)^2. That number is also exactly calculable. 1.6211389382774043431020714113556...
(Don't know that one.... as I don't know it all, but do figure it out for us. as hopefully later today I shall check it out. But then again if you figure it out before that, let us know. Thanks. we are suppose to work together for good, and none of us are suppose to know it all. And if I have to change it so be it, or make qualifications I shall.)
Now, anyone can see that those two numbers are not equal. And yet, on that page, you claim they are. How do you explain this discrepancy? (Will look into it might have been a typo, oversight, unclear or just a downright mistake)
I'm also confused by the dimensions and ratios you give for the Great Pyramid. You claim the side of a base was 792', when it was actually 756'. Likewise, its height was actually 481', but your page says it was 504'. Again, I'd like you to explain these multiple-foot discrepancies, given the fact that you claim the pyramids are so precise that they predict timeframes in inches.
(Excellent excellent observation... tright on, as they don't know the size of the Great Pyramid it depends on what you are measuring. New jerusalem is measured from what cornerstones..... the outside retaining wall of 144 cubits (or 216 feet)
Rev 21:17And he measured the wall thereof, an hundred [and] forty [and] four cubits, [according to] the measure of a man, that is, of the angel.
ha and there again is confirmation that the measure of the angel was to become the measure of man, and the measure of man was in steps and feet, and his hand span, and cubit his elbow to finger tip length, all sacred and ratios to the other heavenly bodies.
Theres that 144 ratio, that 216 number again that the skeptics keep fighting. But the Lord uses it over and over again in His constructions of his temples and his heavenly bodies. Moon being 216.
Whoops what was the question, Oh yea, the measurements were from the outside retaining wall as only the pure of heart can enter, NJ and only the elite priesthood and reigning pharoahs could enter the Great Pyramid..
And Giza had a retaining wall around it, even though very very little is left standing on in place, but with research you can find out that of course GIZA pyramid used to be surrounded by a retaining wall just as New Jerusalem has a wall around it. Just GOOGLE that one Beleth.
Hence the 792 foot length on the outside of the retaining wall makes the 792 length rational, and fits into the lengths of sacred geometry of the ages, Plato, Pythaogorus, and the Egyptian Mysteries as taught them by the angels in my opinion... Again I would state that I didn't think up the 792 ratios, they are a standard of Sacred geometry rather than my own, I am just trying to piece it all together rather than giving the credit for truth to arrogant man. He was not the creator nor is he the CREATOR.)
My intent is to find the truth, of course. And don't thank me too soon; we have barely scratched the surface of phi, and haven't even touched 432 yet.[/quote]
(Whewee, you have got that right, as we have just begin to think and connect up the dots to make everything mesh and fit together in harmony and all our skills are needed, if we can just work together humbly for the greater good.. real KNOWledge and the KNOWledge of the Creator.)
And if this thread looks a mess Beleth, I'll figure out partial quotes eventually, as in some things I am slower than slow.
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