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Annoying creationists

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Annoying Creationists

Delphi ote said:
Anyone interested in autocatalytic RNA should look into the work of Gerald Joyce.
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That’s an interesting ribozyme these scientists developed. Would you care to describe a selective process where a molecule like this could evolve?
 
kleinman said:

That’s an interesting ribozyme these scientists developed. Would you care to describe a selective process where a molecule like this could evolve?
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You remember I told you you should look up the word "selection"?

You should really, really look up the word "selection". And the word "evolve".

But perhaps you'd prefer to write some more crappy adolescent poetry.
 
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kleinman said:

That’s an interesting ribozyme these scientists developed. Would you care to describe a selective process where a molecule like this could evolve?
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I wouldn't care to. Fortunately, Joyce has already done so in simple language on his website:
Joyce's website said:
Just as organisms undergo Darwinian evolution in nature, molecules can be made to evolve in the test tube. This can lead to the production of molecules with interesting properties, including the ability to catalyze a particular chemical reaction. The recipe for Darwinian evolution of molecules is simple:

1) Start with a large population of molecules of varying composition;

2) Select those molecules, however rare, that have the desired chemical properties;

3) Produce many copies of the selected molecules, introducing occasional random changes in their composition;

4) Repeat as desired.

In our laboratory we have harnessed the power of Darwinian evolution as applied to populations of trillions of different RNA or DNA molecules. At their most rapid, our procedures allow us to carry out over 100 "generations" of test-tube evolution in a single day. The resulting molecules have interesting catalytic properties, teach us about evolution itself, and have potential application as therapeutic agents.
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ETA Those interested in evolutionary computation (i.e. some of ev's background) should note that this is sort of a GA with real molecules! Joyce is my hero. :D
 
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articulett said:
Beautiful.

I'm guessing that he's a deranged individual whose community members have encouraged his computer usage as a type of therapy (and to keep him from inflicting himself on others.)

Maybe he has a wife and kids and we are doing them a great favor by keeping him busy online, so they can be free of whatever it is he thinks he is communicating. I wonder if anyone "gets" him...or even cares about what he thinks...or...even likes him.

Maybe he has a brain tumor? (I keep him on ignore, just in case his personality disorder is something he has no control over...fortunately few people respond to him, so I don't see what he's ranting about anymore-- except when he appears in a post that makes me laugh--like yours.)
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That is so accurate, I'm nominating it!

Classic!
 
The Atheist said:
Not at this stage, but if you want to open the bidding, let me know.
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So you are now claiming that your post was not intended to insult me?

You lie like kleinman.

If it isn't clear, I can try another language.
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It was not clear, and please feel free to try another language, I speak several. To take the most baffling example of your drivel, what the heck did you mean by "people who spend time writing their own version of the bible"? I'm sure that you meant that to relate to me in some way, but I am not privy to your fantasy world. You are at liberty to answer this question in French, German, or Arabic, if you choose.

If the wind is blowing north-northeasterly, I might manage Latin, Italian, Portuguese, or Spanish. Actually, while I mention Latin, if you're into dead languages I speak a mean Anglo-Saxon. For Old Norse I would need a dictionary.

In your own time.

What the heck were you trying to say?
 
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JanisChambers said:
They say we need a creator, then who made God? I think thats a pretty reasonable question to ask.
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It is so superbly and eminently reasonable a question that you are never, ever going to get an answer.

We've all asked that question ... welcome to the forums!

We got fun and games.
 
hammegk said:
Advice to "read Sci. Am." is not an answer. Can you provide one?
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Have you ever once shown yourself capable of understanding an answer to a question you ask? To me, your questions sound ignorant from the get go... How could you answer the question for someone simple enough to ask--"how far is it to the end of the earth"?

Your questions imply a sort of ignorance that shows a lack of basic understanding, as well as a declaration that you don't want to understand. They always sound like the above example to me. I don't know why anyone bothers to waste words with you.
 
Dr Adequate said:
So you are now claiming that your post was not intended to insult me?
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No, just a tiny preliminary. You give me a serve, I return service. That's how most games go. Your opening attacks me, I send you a wee brickbat back.

I'm quite happy for people to question any aspect of what I do or say. In what manner that's done, I usually leave to the other bloke at the start.

Dr Adequate said:
You lie like kleinman.
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See, the bad news here is that you've just well and truly outsmarted yourself. Your last post said:
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Then try to say what, if anything, you mean.
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but now you're telling me that I was insulting you and lying by saying I wasn't. So, you do know what I was saying!.
Dr Adequate said:
It was not clear, and please feel free to try another language, I speak several.
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Clear/Not clear?!?

My French and German aren't up to that level, nor is my written Kiswahili, but I can try Maori anytime you like.

Now doc, we can rev this up or not. I'll leave that entirely to you.
 
The Atheist said:
No, just a tiny preliminary. You give me a serve, I return service. That's how most games go. Your opening attacks me, I send you a wee brickbat back.

I'm quite happy for people to question any aspect of what I do or say. In what manner that's done, I usually leave to the other bloke at the start.

See, the bad news here is that you've just well and truly outsmarted yourself. Your last post said:

but now you're telling me that I was insulting you and lying by saying I wasn't. So, you do know what I was saying!.
Clear/Not clear?!?

My French and German aren't up to that level, nor is my written Kiswahili, but I can try Maori anytime you like.

Now doc, we can rev this up or not. I'll leave that entirely to you.
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Again, I have no idea what you're driving at.

Anyone? Little help here, please.

The most baffling thing in this post is "but now you're telling me that I was insulting you and lying by saying I wasn't. So, you do know what I was saying!." [punctuation in the original]

I mean, what?

As I said, I am not privy to the imaginary fantasy world in your head, but even if I was, this sentence wouldn't make any sense. It can't. You're raving. You remember what I said about the deep breath and counting to ten?

Take a deep breath, count to ten, and then try to insult me. Coherently.
 
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Dr Adequate said:
It is so superbly and eminently reasonable a question that you are never, ever going to get an answer.
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Yes. It's a particularly weak Cosmological argument.

1. To exist, something must be created.
2. Something which is created must have a creator.
3. Therefore, if the the universe exists, it must have a creator.
4. So god exists (PLEASE DON'T LOOK BACK AT POINT 1!!!!!)
 
Dr Adequate said:
Again, I have no idea what you're driving at.

Anyone? Little help here, please.

The most baffling thing in this post is "but now you're telling me that I was insulting you and lying by saying I wasn't. So, you do know what I was saying!." [punctuation in the original]

I mean, what?

As I said, I am not privy to the imaginary fantasy world in your head, but even if I was, this sentence wouldn't make any sense. It can't. You're raving. You remember what I said about the deep breath and counting to ten?

Take a deep breath, count to ten, and then try to insult me. Coherently.
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I don't think there has been a coherent post from the asstheist, has there?...I haven't seen any indication that anyone understands what he is saying. I'm guessing anasognosia. It's very odd...but it's just what cognitive studies are showing. The people who are the least comprehensible seem to see themselves as brilliant communicators in their own minds--winning debates left and right-- But there is not an iota of evidence on this forum that anyone understands them nor do they seem to understand each other. I bet it's like working in an insane asylum where several people think they are god--a few others think that demons are talking to them--and one is Christophera--

It is times like this, that I am thankful for whatever it is that makes my brain work and grateful for the wall of cyberspace that separates me from the the "off" people that post here. I often wonder why they choose to post on a skeptic's forum since they seem to think themselves better than "skeptics", "scientists", etc.

It is a treat, however, for those who enjoy irony.

And some of the responses are priceless...
 
JanisChambers said:
They say we need a creator, then who made God? I think thats a pretty reasonable question to ask.
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Hey, I can put on mychristian apologist's hat!

Not quite as simple as that. Any good catholic will tell you that god is eternal. He just is. Plus, the little problem that he's apparently entirely metaphysical in nature and therefore fairly hard to "create".

And welcome in!
 
The Atheist said:
Whose sig is it which goes, "A child of five would understand. Someone, quick, fetch a child of five."?

Graucho Marx.
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You may be thinking of kjkent1, who also, I will bet my bottom dollar, thinks that you're an idiot. Since you ask. Oh, and it's spelt "Groucho".

If you think a five year old child could make your statements meaningful then quick, fetch a five year old child.

I still want to know what you mean, but it appears that you are too frightened to tell me, too ashamed to tell me, or simply incapable of telling me.

Someone please fetch a five year old child to speak for "The Atheist". Apparently he is incapable of speaking for himself.
 
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Dr Adequate said:
I still want to know what you mean, but it appears that you are too frightened to tell me, too ashamed to tell me, or simply incapable of telling me.
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Frightened? I think not.

Falling off my chair laughing at someone unable to read a sentence containing one three-syllable word and the rest comprising two- and one-syllable words. Definitely.

You're digging the hole deeper every post. Pray continue.
 
The Atheist said:
Frightened? I think not.
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So, I believe "ashamed" and "incapable" were the other two options.

Falling off my chair laughing at someone unable to read a sentence containing one three-syllable word and the rest comprising two- and one-syllable words. Definitely.

You're digging the hole deeper every post. Pray continue.
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So, you are still either too ashamed or simply incapable of saying what you mean.

Fascinating.

I just looked it up, and it's "A child of five would understand this -- send someone to fetch a child of five!" -- Groucho Marx

Send someone to fetch a child of five.
 
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