432 shows harmony of Sun, Moon, Earth Design

[Jimbo07]

So before posting without thinking, Now study for years the Kuballah like the jews.

No thanks. I'd rather study something useful.

but you have to do your homework.

I have.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Am I mistaken or does claiming that Einstein supported one's theories earn a few points on the Crakpot Index?

No Einstein was actually a brilliant philospher and had quite the heart and soul for people, if you study his later life. His only mistake was being rather naive about the world using nuclear energy for good, he was used and abused by the military. Oh well, in his earlier life, Einstein loved to think, and as he said... he wanted to prove God existed, and he did. he was a great thinker and beyond his time, even though light speed is not an absolute.

SEE http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/EinsteinandtheSpeedofLight.html

Yet his equations did show that a parallel spiritual Universe had to exist. I mean when you study e=mcsquared

Again you are back to 432

432 squared gives you what number. If you can't do the math, you can use a hand calculator.

For 432 is the square root of light speed.

SEE http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/432KeyofStarofDavid5.html


By chance, NO by design, and yet you have balked and just start name calling like foolish kids. You haven;t even studied PAGE ONE wehen LIGHT SPEED and 432 was on page 5, and still we have to go to PAGE 10

Oh well, there has to be at least one or two sincere individuals with balls and guts here.

 

[Jeff Corey]

Ladewig, was catching it slightly when she or he gave another definition of goyum. As older Jews can be priviledged to study the Kaballah. So before you all start howling about the Tree of Life geometry, you shoudl really study and research for yewars and years why these Jews spend so much time going over, comtemplating and understanding the hexagonal tree of life, flower of life pattern. Why because it is the findamental template of all created matter, and hence it gives them great advantage intellectually over the dumb goyum who think they know it all.

Jerry, a non Christian gave me a glimpse of their knowledge with the Theory of Everything. So come on brethren and skeptics study before you complain about connecting laws when you want to believe the Theory that Nothing is Connected.

SEE http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/T.html

So before posting without thinking, Now study for years the Kuballah like the jews.

Or maybe its because I have jewish heritage that I picked up the basics so easily. Its geometry folks, simple geometry that makes the comples underrstandable, but you have to do your homework.

Boychik, du bist eine mashuggah p-golem.

 

[Loss Leader]

Dictionary.com and Answers.com call it a disparaging term.

I guess it's about as disparaging as a black person calling a while man "honky": it recognizes a culturaly difference without making a value judgment about such difference. Of course, I remember calling my grandmother near Christmas and having her sigh, "Der goyim ist meshuggah."

As older Jews can be priviledged to study the Kaballah. So before you all start howling about the Tree of Life geometry, you shoudl really study and research for yewars and years why these Jews spend so much time going over, comtemplating and understanding the hexagonal tree of life, flower of life pattern. Why because it is the findamental template of all created matter, and hence it gives them great advantage intellectually over the dumb goyum who think they know it all.

I'm Jewish and I don't know anybody who studies any of whatever you're talking about. In fact, the only people I've ever even heard of studying kaballah are non-Jews like Madonna and Bruce Paltrow's daughter.

I may have made the thing about Gwyneth Paltrow up.

Or maybe its because I have jewish heritage that I picked up the basics so easily.

1. You have no Jewish heritage. I have Jewish heritage - both sides all the way back to the city of Ur.

2. You have not picked up the basics easily. You appear to have no understanding of the basics whatsoever.

3. Was Gwyneth Paltrow into Kabbalah? I can't remember now. Somebody look it up.

 

[Jimbo07]

Again you are back to 432

432 squared gives you what number. If you can't do the math, you can use a hand calculator.

For 432 is the square root of light speed.

Just for your information and edification

432² = 186624

c is approximately 186282 mi/s, giving an error of about 0.2%

c = 299,792,458 m/s

The square root of that is 17314.

Now let me tell you about the rule of 5s...

 

[wollery]

If you didn't know it, the Earth is the center of the Universe. It is written in the colors of the stars. The stars and their galaxies give off a red light shift away from their natural color because they are all moving away from the Earth. So no matter where a telescope looks in the uniform sky, the galaxies are all moving away from us. How could this be? Well, it's simply because the Lord created the Earth and our Sun and all the stars (other suns) using the Earth as the Center of Creation. From this central hub, the galaxies are moving away, causing a red light shift. There is no other explanation.

No. As someone who measures the radial velocities of stars I can assure you that they are not all moving away from us. Not even all galaxies are moving away from us. The Andromeda galaxy (M31) is on a collision course with the Milky Way. As for the Earth being the centre of the Universe, how is that possible when the Earth orbits the Sun, and the whole Solar system orbits the Galactic centre?

Oh, and there is another explanation for the Universal expansion. Inflationary Big Bang Cosmology. A full blown explanation involves general relativity (including tensor mathematics in 4 dimensional spacetime), but the simple version is that the Universe originated from an infinitesimally small point which expanded at relativistic speed and is still expanding today. Averaged over the Universe, all parts of the Universe are moving apart at the same rate . Of course, the further away one looks the longer the light has taken to reach us, so the light started its journey longer ago and is thus more redshifted, because the Universal expansion has been slowing down due to gravity. The "averaged over the Universe" part is important, because gravity dominates on the small scale (galaxy clusters and smaller).

 

[Zep]

Actually, the speed of light (c) is 1,498,962,290 handspans/sec. The square root of that is 38716.434365783220972812672452666 handspans/sec^-2
And that number is close enough to...oh, I dunno...32768? That's 2¹⁵, and 15 is "1" and "5" which add to make 6.

Which is about how old you are and shows how infantile this whole exercise is, dude...

 

[Paulhoff]

Oh boy, DJJ wants to do the speed of light thing, OK DJJ, if I put one pound of energy into a one pound steel ball (or anything that is one pound) what percent of the speed of light will it travel at, play with those numbers.

Paul

 

[Ladewig]

Repeated for emphasis:

Look. If you want to believe in God, then go ahead and believe in God. Making up ratios as proof of God's existence does not help. If you have faith in a powerful God, then surely He is powerful enough that you don't have to tell lies on His behalf.

You math is flawed. Your calculations are in error. Your values for physical dimensions are poorly rounded-off to suit your purposes. Again, I say: if you want to believe in God, then go ahead and believe in God. A lot of people find comfort and community in that belief. But stop making up ratios that you insist are important. They are not.

 

[Zep]

No. As someone who measures the radial velocities of stars I can assure you that they are not all moving away from us. Not even all galaxies are moving away from us. The Andromeda galaxy (M31) is on a collision course with the Milky Way. As for the Earth being the centre of the Universe, how is that possible when the Earth orbits the Sun, and the whole Solar system orbits the Galactic centre?

Oh, and there is another explanation for the Universal expansion. Inflationary Big Bang Cosmology. A full blown explanation involves general relativity (including tensor mathematics in 4 dimensional spacetime), but the simple version is that the Universe originated from an infinitesimally small point which expanded at relativistic speed and is still expanding today. Averaged over the Universe, all parts of the Universe are moving apart at the same rate . Of course, the further away one looks the longer the light has taken to reach us, so the light started its journey longer ago and is thus more redshifted, because the Universal expansion has been slowing down due to gravity. The "averaged over the Universe" part is important, because gravity dominates on the small scale (galaxy clusters and smaller).

I fear you lost him after "No.".

 

[Gord_in_Toronto]

Bro, you can argue with Plato, and Pythagorus and the Egyptians masters and teachers, and all the ancients even though you and your low technology can;t do what they did eons ago, but do realise that I didn;t make up these values, but they knew them straight from Creation.

I didn;t invent these numbers or manipulate numbers, these are just the BASIC SIMPLE values of sacred geometry that has been with us from the BEGINNING.

So if you can't handle them, and don;t want to take the time to study and learn and get integrative but prefer disintegration and chaos, not my fault. I have been trying to teach you.

And do check out the new posting by Grunion, as you guys have to get up to light speed, and consider how matter can be created before you will ever catch these numbers.

Does it really get any funnier than this?

You are not scratching your words onto a piece of clay. You are using something called a computer and your foolish "thoughts" are being transmitted over the Internet -- not invented by any long dead Greeks or Egyptians or even current day numerologists but by our "low science".

Keep it coming!

I haven't had as good a laugh since Bob Allisat (qv) left Toronto and Usenet.

 

[Ladewig]

Sorry, can't help this...

After reading David Jay Jordan's efforts so far, including his website, I have reached some definite conclusions.

First, he is deliberately innumerate.

Next, he is deliberately illiterate.

Next, he is deliberately unknowledgeable.

I wish what you said were not true, but the available evidence supports your conclusions.

I think the only question left is whether it is a personality quirk or a symptom of a larger problem.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

No, I asked a sincere question: can you provide evidence without resorting to the following circular path I have seen many times:

A-What I say is true.
Q-Why?
A-Because it's based in the Bible.
Q-Why should I believe the Bible?
A-Because it's the word of God.
Q-How do we know?
A-Because creation shows God is everywhere.
Q-How do you know that?
A-Because it says so in the Bible...

Repeat ad infinitum. Your smugness is hardly sincere. I asked you what evidence you had for your beliefs, especially when your magic numbers don't work out to even the exact values, yet you claim they're "close enough".

I don't think you're here to have a discussion, I think you're here to troll. Prove me wrong.



How have you proven the word of God? With your misunderstanding of math, incorrect numbers and Bible-based "divine units of measure"? How have you proven that the Bible is the word of God?



Why would I mess with your wife and/or children? That doesn't even make sense. I didn't even know you had a wife or children until you mentioned it.

I'm not trying to mess with "out Creator of ALL", I see no evidence he exists.



I don't know, are you actually going to try and provide real evidence, or are you going to go on about how I'm not sincere and I'm going to mess with God?

How do you figure that numbers, which are a human abstraction designed to better understand certain aspects of the real world, have any magical properties?

As mentioned I proved that Jesus works to myself and my family in actual experimentation and actual putting it all on the line. The WORDS of JESUS were tried and proven. For you to prove them you have to have the guts and balls to do it for yourself. I can;t do it all for you, Johnny. I can help you piece things together in your scatterred and shatterred existence, but the final answer always has to come from you personnally.

For the Lord wasn't into word games but wanted real individualistic people with the courage to go beyond rather than snicker and complain and merely drink coffee as bystanders of real life.

The proofs are in the pudding as well in the numbers I am giving and the whole Creation. It is the proof but if you deny them so be it. Your choice, your lose. Psalm 19... biology, chemistry, physics, math.... etc etc etc etc....

You can not be spoon fed all your life Johnny come lately.. you have to start growing up and proving things to yourself and for yourself and not blaming others.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Proveit.html

 

[Paul]

Mainly because I am a pecker

Sorry, couldn't help it.

with a fast one as the girls know

You know that's nothing to show off about, right?

 

[Paulhoff]

DJJ wasn’t it you so-called Jesus that said something about turning the other cheek.

Paul

 

[Foster Zygote]

Sorry, can't help this...

After reading David Jay Jordan's efforts so far, including his website, I have reached some definite conclusions...

I've noticed a distinct similarity between Djj, LightCreatedLife, and Lifegazer. Although their philosophies differ somewhat and they'd probably self annihilate like electrons and positrons if they ever came in contact with one another, they seem to be similarly motivated. What they want, whether they realize it or not, is not to be knowledgeable but rather to seem knowledgeable.

 

[Paul]

Aww, look at the cute kitten.

 

[prewitt81]

As mentioned I proved that Jesus works to myself and my family in actual experimentation and actual putting it all on the line. The WORDS of JESUS were tried and proven. For you to prove them you have to have the guts and balls to do it for yourself. I can;t do it all for you, Johnny. I can help you piece things together in your scatterred and shatterred existence, but the final answer always has to come from you personnally.

For the Lord wasn't into word games but wanted real individualistic people with the courage to go beyond rather than snicker and complain and merely drink coffee as bystanders of real life.

The proofs are in the pudding as well in the numbers I am giving and the whole Creation. It is the proof but if you deny them so be it. Your choice, your lose. Psalm 19... biology, chemistry, physics, math.... etc etc etc etc....

You can not be spoon fed all your life Johnny come lately.. you have to start growing up and proving things to yourself and for yourself and not blaming others.

http://www.geocities.com/davidjayjordan/Proveit.html

Nope.

 

[Foster Zygote]

Does it really get any funnier than this?

You are not scratching your words onto a piece of clay. You are using something called a computer and your foolish "thoughts" are being transmitted over the Internet -- not invented by any long dead Greeks or Egyptians or even current day numerologists but by our "low science".

Keep it coming!

I haven't had as good a laugh since Bob Allisat (qv) left Toronto and Usenet.

If I had to rely on ancient Egyptian medical care I'd likely have long since died of a raging tooth abscess. Not that the ancient civilizations weren't extremely clever or that they didn't help to lay the foundations of our current state, but I'm quite sure that if Pythagoras could be shown the modern world he would be utterly stunned with amazement.

 

[Davidjayjordan]

Repeated for emphasis:



You math is flawed. Your calculations are in error. Your values for physical dimensions are poorly rounded-off to suit your purposes. Again, I say: if you want to believe in God, then go ahead and believe in God. A lot of people find comfort and community in that belief. But stop making up ratios that you insist are important. They are not.

as mentioned you can try to accuse me, but the values are hardly mine.... they came from the ancients who were much brighter than yourselves, because you have been brainwashed into thinking this generation is brilliant and the most advanced. that's hardly the case. So blame Plato and Pythagorus and the Egyptians and their knowledge as rounding off numbers when you want perfect circles rather than the mean as you want an excuse not to believe, and then chatter foolish jokes like immature children.

But 432, and the distances I gave are mean values and correct, as 216 ralates to the MOON, and the very basic and most simple of equations in Sacred Geometry.

Surely even you cave dwellers HERE have heard about the daVinci Code, you have come out into the light and at least read the book or seen the movie, have you not.

DaVinci came from a mystery school and was part of the Illuminati, any true researcher and skeptic will tell you that. Boy are you guys naive and unlightened and should I say lambs for the slaughter.

The Vitrium or naked man in the squared circle is the BASIC. The Moon being added to the earth, giving the square root of PHI ratio.... the Moons distance being 2160. a BAASIC so simple.... added to the earth's 7920 and you get a ratio of 1.272 times greater, that being the square root of PHI. ...1.618

http://images.google.ca/images?hl=en&sa=N&resnum=0&q=Vitruvian&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&tab=wi

http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgu...&prev=/images?q=Vitruvian&svnum=10&hl=en&sa=N


Darn I may have go straight to the simpliest and most basic math with you folks. But I shan't unless there is one sincere individuals among you.