So...its true what they say...old bigfooters never die, they just post on different forums!
So, you're suggesting an ape that is a hunter then, eating elk, rodents and fish? Like with Bigfoot, prove it.
We need only look at bears that live in Bigfoot's supposed habitat, they all, without exception, hibernate.
Primates did not simply just spread out from Africa. For instance in South American primates there are distantly related to African primates, through lower types of mammals but evolved independently. Same thing with Orangutans.
Now, I was assuming that the primate we are talking about would be an Asian ancestor that crossed the Bering land bridge as surmised by most Bigfoot proponents, however if you are suggesting that Bigfoot evolved separately from South American primates, you need to now explain the dearth of primate fossils in North America.
Even sedentary species can be distributed worldwide, through no fault of their own as continents and land masses shift.
Last weekend on Discovery Channels 'Best Evidence' they tackled Bigfoot and the biomass argument is still the biggest argument against Bigfoot. PS they also proved that a man in an ape suit could walk exactly like the person in the ape suit in the Patterson-Gimlin film.
Your arguments are misinformed at best.There is no way a primate larger than a bear could survive on pine needle soup.
I'm not even sure where to start with this post. The biomass argument is incredibly weak; Dr. Nina from the "Best Evidence" show should have discussed her lack of knowledge about the botanical and nutritional abundance of the PNW with anthropologists and botanists that actually work here.
Native Americans have been living in the PNW without the benefit of agriculture for thousands of years. More than 75% of their calories come from gathered plants, insects, and small game with the remaining 25% coming from larger game (deer, elk, etc.). The vast majority of the plants used as food (and of course, there are many more plants who's only use was for ceremonial or medical purposes) needed no further work other than to "pick it" (no need for processing and/or cooking). In fact, the resources in PNW were so vast and abundant, gathering only took up a few hours a day and like many agricultural societies, the native cultures here were able to develop complex "leisure" activities such as rock art, baskets, etc. The plants and their nutritional value are very well documented and I can provide references to anyone who would like them.
As an archaeologist/anthropologist, part of my job for the U.S. Forest Service is to identify plants that are important to Native Americans (and attempt to protect them). I often go into the field with the tribes, find the plants, and get a chance to "sample" them. Over the years, I have amassed quite the list of plants found in areas of bigfoot sightings in my area (including season, density, elevation, preferred habitat, other animals who want that food, and nutritional value). I have no doubt what-so-ever that there is more than enough food just in plant material and other proteins (insects, reptiles, fish, and small rodents) in the Spring, Summer, and Fall to support a primate (and this doesn't include any issue of hunting).
Winter, of course, would be a more difficult issue and I am still working on what is available for a non-hibernating primates in lower elevations (but I don't get out as often as I should). Of course, this would depend on the primate at least migrating down below the snow line, but since for bigfoot to even be a viable species, it would have had to migrate from Asia to America in the first place, so making an issue about bigfoot migrating up and down a hill is sort of a red-herring.
So simply put, an't no primate making pine-needle soup. No need to...there is plenty of yummy stuff available!
P.S. And in case anyone wants to debate that these plant resources were plentiful in prehistory but aren't as abundant in modern times, I assure you that the business of commercial pinenut, acorn, mushroom, braken fern, etc. are alive and well in your PNW National Forests.
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