How? You implied that they were on meds for a psychological condition.
People usually aren't put on meds for a purely psychological condition. Perhaps you're unaware some people tend to have episodes around time of full moon. The word lunacy comes from "luna" - moon.
Even if it were true are you in the habit of making fun of peoples struggles or were you making just making fun of people who need meds in general?
These two show obvious mood swings in their posting. Check the MIM thread I linked to if you can't see that.
If they're not on meds, perhaps they should be.
I've worked in Mental Health, was married for over twelve years to a Nam vet with an atypical organic brain syndrome, several of my friends have serious mental health issues and I've been active in support groups for alcoholic/addicts and their families for 22 years.
Did you find nothing wrong with the way those two attacked Melissa? She can take it, but that ticked me off.
Any way you look at it it was in very poor taste and a familiar position to take by someone who can't think of a better rebuttal. You should hook up with Moneymaker, you both have a lot in common.
I don't attack anyone without extreme provocation. You should know that by now. But enough of it is definitely enough. I take it you haven't read back through the thread or you might have seen tube's "condomhead" post or some unclever mockery from DY.
Wolftrax was at his insulting best in support of tube on BFF the other day and that's what did it.
The nicest thing I can say is that he should get help.
Nope you're wrong, why would you even try and fabricate something like that when you know I know the truth?
Fabricate? I was thinking it was on an MD thread; it wasn't, as I found out. I missquoted you slightly, but I found the post.
I have a good memory, but that was something I was trying to forget.
Neither of us (nor anyone else that I'm aware of) were suspended or even warned for what you perceive as an attack on your lil buddy, but I'm pretty sure he was banned, maybe he insulted a mod or an admin. Has he done that here yet?
Totally different situation months later and it's a long story.
I was told there were some ten-day suspensions handed out around the time of the "moron" attack. The thread was closed with the comment about banishment being taken under advisement and I thought that's what had happened, especially when neither of you seemed to be posting for awhile.
I never attacked Rick Noll...if asking for the truth and clarification of unsupported claims is considered an attack then both you and Rick have got to learn to get used to it, I'm sure I'm not the only one who expects the truth instead of unsubstantiated proclamations.
I can post links there, too. You and Jim were ganging up with that Fred Bradshaw business. I got a thank you for the way I handled that; the mod was too angry to post. Rick relented and came back, but, as he stated, he didn't have time for the bickering.
Who are you that he should have to disclose everything to you?
I'm guessing you must have been greatly disappointed by the lack of overwhelming grief in your Rick Noll eulogy thread.
Not at all and it wasn't a eulogy thread. We lost a great poster and a great resource who contributed more than any of his detractors, IMO. There were some very good posts on that thread. Of course, the critics had to do their little snipes, but some people can't pass on an opportunity to show how mean-spirited they can be. I expected it to be closed much sooner than it was.
I was in shock. I was looking for a post, and no pictures. I was ready to PM a mod about the glitch when I saw Rick's farewell post. He's a nice guy, by all accounts. He was even nice about leaving.
If you are implying that I should know how they feel because Coolfoot/SweatiYeti got himself banned and/or Rick cannot answer direct questions, then no, I don't know how they feel.
No I'm stating that the way you felt after an attack by MM was probably how they felt after attacks from you.
Yep I did call him that, maybe he didn't deserve that distinction... I'm sure that there was at least one person who was a bigger moron at the time, I just couldn't locate one.
Making fun of mentally retarded people now, are you? Are you in the habit of that?
How many times have I stated that I grew up in northern Minnesota? I don't claim to be a Grey Wolf expert, and guess what? I've even seen a few wolves. According to more than one internet bigfooter that qualifies for expert status.
And I do not claim to be an investigator or an expert. I'm an interested party who enjoys the history of all this, the books, the personalities, the mysteries, the discoveries.
I hate the distortions and the rotten press, and I'm well aware that what most people think about it is based on misinformation. If I can help correct some of it, even in the little world of message boards, I'll have made my contribution.
Yep look on the members list of just about any bigfoot internet board, while there are many good, clear thinking, objective posters on the rosters they are posting less and less because there is no use arguing with an inflexible, myopic "true believer"
Okay, I'm getting damn sick of this. To some of us it's the abrasive sceptics who ruin the boards and they blame the "true believers", whoever they may be.
Debate is great. We learn from it. But good debate is not about who can come up with the best, most vicious, denegrating one-liners about other posters.
who can not and will not consider anything other than bigfoot being responsible for everything that they can not explain or understand and rely on someone else to bolster their beliefs instead of considering every other possibility.
I take it you haven't read my retelling of Peter Byrne's story about the tree stump, and I know you couldn't have seen my PM to someone whose associate is thinking laurel may be an important food source. From the height of the stripping it was probably deer and I sent him an abstract about deer deaths in Pennsylvania evidently due to the ingestion of poisonous Mountain Laurel (closely related) and rhododendron in winter.
I've never seen a sasquatch, never thought I did, and I can't rule out elk on my one scary sound experience.
I do not think you know me very well.
Look for yourself, Lu, if you think I'm wrong. If you can't see that I can't help you any further.
I don't recall asking for your help in the first place and I would appreciate it if you would refrain from trying to shove it down my throat.
The gate swings both ways.
Yes, don't let it hit you on the way out.
Nope you must have me confused with Coolfoot/SweatiYeti.
You obviously would be surprised to know the truth. Maybe you should check with sources that count over there, not your support group, before you start any gossip you obviously can't back up.
That's from a very good source, one who counts over there, and of course I can't reveal it. Maybe it's blown over by now. For what it's worth, someone thought I was a troublemaker too. I was expecting my "Regret to inform you" message at any moment.
Nope no one asked me to post here and no I don't wonder why you don't post at BFD, I figured you were afraid because your support system wasn't there.
You'd be wrong. If you think I need a support system, consider I was the lone proponent here for about nine months.
The sole reasons after what happened on BFF were you and JimF.
BTW three posts in nine days wringing your hands about the BFF being down doesn't count as discussion IMHO.
What a nice characterization that was. Yeah, I must have been going through withdrawal until they put Frapper up. I can think of no other reason I would have even bothered to post three times.
I was invited to the board when it started. Seeing Belle's posts was enough to let me know that wasn't for me. Much, much later I checked a thread at someone's request and saw friends getting severly trashed. The only time I lurked after that was when I was ready to leave BFF myself. I was looking for a substitute. That board isn't it.
You never posted anything at SRI (neither have I, BTW) so that counts even less. You do understand what "anymore" means, right?
In fact I was posting in CoRE-that's part of SRI, isn't it? Didn't see me there? Do a search. I was trying to help Jim with the letter to Discover Magazine, for one thing. I've never posted on the public board.
I never said there shouldn't be proponents but your generalization of everyone else says a lot about your perception of those who don't share your point of view.
I think you'd better back that up. I take being called a credulloid, a fanatic and a dintewoober with smiles and good grace, most of the time.
If there was a moment when I was convinced about sasquatch existance, it might have been when I talked with a deputy who investigated the Cox sighting. That, and the 7-mile-long
double trackway north of Carson, were enough for me.
All your scepticism and "inconclusives" and Yetifan imitations (see below) won't take that away.
It's not so easy to claim things concerning bigfoot as factual when there is no proof of such an animal actually existing but you manage to try and do it all the time. Until what you claim is verified scientifically any evidence has to be categorized as either false or unsubstantiated but you always present what you read as fact, not food for thought.
Is this some kind of crime? Bindernagel talks that way too, about them being real live animals in their own ecological niche. It is entirely too much work to type phrases such as "the evidence is inconclusive" or "this is pure speculation" every time I want to say something. I do say things like "according to Green" and "according to reports" and "perhaps" quite a bit.
And I post a lot of links and page numbers.
I don't really care, I just saw you were trying to brag about your self inflated "intelligence" again and I had to say something. Now I'm sorry I gave you a platform to do it again.
You missed the point. I was intimidated when I found out I'd been debating with a PhD. DY had me so terrorized back then I was afraid to look at the board. I'm less of a coward now.
Coolfoot/SweatiYeti,
....never mind, it just isn't worth it, everyone has your number anyway.....
Everyone?
http://www2.wwnorton.com/college/phil/logic3/ch6/majority.htm
Hi Ray,
While I'm still interested in the subject and want to learn more concerning the facts and not just speculation, the unfortunate fact is that unless you live and die by the testament of certain BF superstars you get labeled as a "troublemaker" by the vocal faction and are just wasting electrons by having the gall to have a different point of view.
I see one post here was enough to get the ball rolling by the usual suspects.
I was hoping it would be the last. It was certainly nice of you to go to all the trouble of joining the board just so you could come chew me out. I'm sure you'll like it here.
Now, please excuse me while I decide whether to put you on filter or not. It's getting kind of crowded back there with Ray and Greg and probably you. One more and you'll have a fourth for bridge.
about some of this. So far as I can tell, I'm not sure how to interpret Melissa's activities beyond having succeeded in casting dermatoglyphics in Onion Mountain soil. Apparently, we have people other than Tube finding dessication lines and it would seem likely we will find more if we just ask. If I'm wrong in my assessment please tell me, Melissa.
But, "web volunteers" are a very important part of this mystery (as far as I am concerned). As they keep the discussion going for the general population to read, and it gives witnesses a place where they can discuss what they may have seen or heard. Websites have really pushed this research into homes of middle America and made the researchers who want the information much more accessible for witnesses, thats a good thing. But like everything - it does have its downside. 
