The Bible is 100% true and to be read literally

...oh $#!+, cancel that post. I just noticed Atheist and Paulhoff. I'm trying to avoid those guys.

BJ (this time)
 
BillyJoe said:
...oh $#!+, cancel that post. I just noticed Atheist and Paulhoff. I'm trying to avoid those guys.

BJ (this time)
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Isn’t it terrible when someone ruins the magic trick for you by saying the truth and not what you want to hear?

Paul

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melaniejane88 said:
You may also note that in the 10 commandments....
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Which 10 commandments would they be then? Hmmm?

melaniejane88 said:
God gives life, surely he has every right to take it from those who offend Him.
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I've often wondered about this. How can one be omniscient and also get surprised and be offended?

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Psa ...lots of BIG, colourful letters hoping it will make a point and not seem completely wierd......peace.
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Do you think this helps in any way what-so-ever?


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Posted by me many times before:

1. If a religion basically says "We are right, everyone else is wrong", then it is harmful.
2. If people within the religion are not able to challenge their religion, then it is harmful.
3. If a religion holds back or puts down anyone within the religion, then it is harmful.
4. If a religion does not allow anyone to leave and or change their believes, then it is harmful.
5. If a religion holds back or puts down anyone outside their religion, then it is harmful.
6. If a religion says that god is only behind their country, then it is harmful.
7. If a religion keeps you blind to the people real needs, then it is harmful
8. If people within a religion lies to protect it's members, then it is harmful.
9. If a religion lies to protect itself from the truth, then it is harmful.
10. If a religion lies about the truth, then it is harmful.
11. If a religion says that if you are not the norm, you are no good, then it is harmful.
12. If a religion separates their god from nature, then it is harmful.
13. If a religion does not change has information about the world and universe change, then it is harmful.

There are more that people will come up with, but these 13 should cover most of it.

Paul

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That is not a bad list you have there, Paul, but could you explain number 12 to me? I don't think I agree with you on that point, but I may just not understand what you are trying to say.
 
To many people treat the earth has it is theirs to do with what they what because their god says to take dominion over it.

Paul

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The so-called primitive religions don't do that, they revere mother earth, they know it is life.

Thanks for asking
 
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ceo_esq said:
Well, certain New Testament texts (some of Paul's letters, for example) were probably composed within 20 years or so of Jesus' supposed death. (The very latest NT text must have been composed no more than a century after that death, and probably earlier). Yet there are many events and characters of the ancient and even the medieval world known to us only from accounts written down a generation or more (sometimes much more) after the alleged facts. And that only goes to the date of composition; if you're also talking about the interval between probable composition and earliest extant manuscript, the New Testament fares better historically than just about any other ancient texts.
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It's just unfortunate that we don't have anything ressembling the originals, eh ?
 
The Atheist said:
To me, especially as an atheist, it makes sense that there was a bloke called Jesus at around that time. Life of Brian. This Jesus guy may have been a very early faith-healer who achieved some spectacular placebo cures. He sure as hell wasn't a god, or any relative thereof, but I'd lay short odds that he did wander around on about shortly after year 0.
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Oh, it's likely he existed. Unfortunately, it's also just as likely he didn't.
 
Whatever we hide in our hearts reflects in our behavior, and our behavior reflects our hearts to the world. If you could see your heart in a mirror, what characteristics would that mirror reflect?

Those 13 cover your religion paul.
 
I've often wondered about this. How can one be omniscient and also get surprised and be offended?
Answerer to H3LL,
Because he gave us free will!
You don't offend till you make the wrong choice.
 
edge said:
You don't offend till you make the wrong choice.
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Except that with omniscience, the actions of freewill are already known and the act of choosing is merely an arbitrary excuse for punishment.
 
Paul said:
Except that with omniscience, the actions of freewill are already known and the act of choosing is merely an arbitrary excuse for punishment.
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Good point. How could God not know what a person will do? He didn't know Adam would eat the forbiden fruit? Come on.
 
What I have is faith in Jesus Christ the lord.
I follow no religion.
There is a difference in having faith in the truth and having faith in a religious denomination, or religion.
Religion is mans manipulation of faith.

What miracles in modern times has Buddha done or any of the other so called Gods?


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As others have already said, so? What relevance does this have to anything?

Tell me something, edge. If I made a hypothesis, which I did not believe to be true, yet fitted all available data, and sustained all attempts to falsify it, and which I then went on to say was wrong, does that mean that the hypothesis is wrong?
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It's never to late.

The mans name was Peter Dragon.

He was a brilliant inventor and had seven patents for irrigation pumps and systems that have made the valleys of California prosper and produce more food than we need.
He received many awards and was an avid fisherman.
He was brilliant to the end and very coherent.

He was on blood thinners and refused the narcotics
He was exactly like most on this forum in his views on the Christian beliefs.
He was very able minded till the end only his body gave out.
His story, even though short is a legacy to you.
I can only repeat the story for him now.
Even with all that he had he was missing something.

Your right not all atheists will have a change of heart not all will be so logical in the end.

The other story was about Green eyes son.
I only found out the other night, but it's funny how these things pop up at the right time.
If I tell you a story from my parent I will say that it is from my father or mother I won't lie, because lying goes against my principles. You see I know what’s in my heart. :)
 
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What miracles in modern times has Buddha done or any of the other so called Gods?
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This one sentence seems to sum up all the problems one has in discussing religions with "believer" Christians. Buddha is not a "god" and anyway he has done exactly the same number of "miracles in modern times" that Jesus Christ has; exacly zero.
 
Gord_in_Toronto said:
This one sentence seems to sum up all the problems one has in discussing religions with "believer" Christians. Buddha is not a "god" and anyway he has done exactly the same number of "miracles in modern times" that Jesus Christ has; exacly zero.
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I would say, "that Jesus Christ ever did and or will do, and that is none".
 
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